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English is not my native language, so I apologize for any mistakes. :)

Of course. I think there might have been some misunderstanding about my point. I didn’t mean to take away the freedom of choice. What I wanted to say is that whether it’s an NTR game or not, the freedom of choice should be equally available to both sides. I might have conveyed my point poorly.

And, this is just my personal opinion: NTR, as its name implies, is about losing someone you love to another person.
Therefore, if the protagonist is not in a pure one-on-one romantic relationship with someone, I don't think other women having relationships with other men can be considered NTR.

For example, Megan and Jessica are the protagonist's family. If they date other men or have one-night stands, it can’t really be considered NTR. If the protagonist's mom sleeps with the dad, is that NTR? No, it’s not. And if the protagonist isn’t in a relationship with Amy and she’s with another man, that’s also not NTR. In Mia’s case, even though it’s an incestuous relationship, they love each other, so if Mia were to have a relationship with another man, that could be considered NTR. However, if Emma were to have a relationship with another man, would that be considered NTR?

If we were to set the standard for NTR as any male character other than the protagonist having a relationship with any female character close to the protagonist, then can we really consider that NTR? By that logic, the whole world would essentially be full of NTR.

Harem, incest, and NTR are all just differences in personal preference. It’s hard to understand how someone could be okay with harem and incest but not with NTR. Ultimately, I think the best approach is for developers to create games however they want. What matters most is the vision and intentions of the people making the game. Thank you.
Literally my thoughts on what NTR is and why most NTR games shouldn't be called that.
If we remember where term came from, it came mostly from Japanese games, in which MC's LI is exactly taken away from him, it is really a real, pure NTR there. And if, as you gave a good example, MC's sisters date someone other than main character and have sex with someone other than him, that's fine. It's just not normal for a brother and sister to start a relationship. But for some reason incest is considered normal and welcomed in games and you almost never hear people who are unhappy about it. But NTR (although it is not NTR in fact, but just a normal life of a sister, mom, etc.) - is considered something bad.
Totally agree with you. So when Jess in Lust Theory went out on dates, maybe to spend time with boys, I didn't consider it NTR and it can't be considered it. If she's spending time with someone other than main character, that's fine. Of course until MC and sister fall in love with each other, then of course it could be considered NTR and cheating, like loving couple
And by the way, when MC himself takes someone away from other male characters or has a bunch of girls for himself alone, this is also considered normal in games by most. But when a girl has a lot of boy friends for sex, that's not normal. Not that I'm stomping for equality, but it seems really stupid.
 

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Well it was a short update (is there really only the beach stuff ?), but I liked it. I don't understand the hate, it's exactly what I like: some wild stuff with girls getting more and more perverted. I also have a thing for (public) topless beach admittedly.
Yet, I'd prefer longer updates even if it meant waiting for longer. The good stuff was just getting started.
 
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Haidi

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This game is clearly a strictly NTR game, has all the warnings and tags.
Deal with it or don't play it. I'm so tired of this God damn argument from you people. It's exhausting.
Preach.

Honestly, since the first day i joined this forum on every inceton thread it's been a continuous "iS tHiS gAmE nTr?????" and it's tiring af.

Basically if they make it optional and non canon in their vanilla games you bitch and moan, if they make a strictly NTR game (where ntr is still optional), you STILL bitch and moan.

Goddamnit people, if you don't like it avoid it in the vanilla games and just don't play the openly NTR ones, you can't expect a whole genre to be wiped from everywhere just because you don't like it.

And before i get called a cuck and all of that: i'm not a fan of NTR, i just don't care for it. My favourite girl is jessica and i want to see her get fucked, doesn't matter by who because she is a fictional, pixelated girl on a screen and i have no kind of attachment to her
 

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And by the way, when MC himself takes someone away from other male characters or has a bunch of girls for himself alone, this is also considered normal in games by most. But when a girl has a lot of boy friends for sex, that's not normal. Not that I'm stomping for equality, but it seems really stupid.
Been there, done that in real life. And of course it's hypocritical and people should learn not to think like that.

And equality is a very basic value that everyone should work towards, which is obvious, if you just take a few seconds to think about it. (Just a dose of such a flawed theory as rational egoism teaches you that.)

Ethically wise cheating is breaking a promise and you personally should never do that. And that's all that you should consider about it.
 
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Preach.

Honestly, since the first day i joined this forum on every inceton thread it's been a continuous "iS tHiS gAmE nTr?????" and it's tiring af.

Basically if they make it optional and non canon in their vanilla games you bitch and moan, if they make a strictly NTR game (where ntr is still optional), you STILL bitch and moan.

Goddamnit people, if you don't like it avoid it in the vanilla games and just don't play the openly NTR ones, you can't expect a whole genre to be wiped from everywhere just because you don't like it.

And before i get called a cuck and all of that: i'm not a fan of NTR, i just don't care for it. My favourite girl is jessica and i want to see her get fucked, doesn't matter by who because she is a fictional, pixelated girl on a screen and i have no kind of attachment to her
It's every game thread with NTR. Some harem fan boy gets butt hurt and holds the entire thread hostage with some long winded post about , hOw tHe gAmE sHoUlD hAVE a CHoIcE or DeV wOuLd mAkE sO mUcH mOrE iF tHeY wEnT hAreM or hA hA CuCk I aRe AlPhA mAlE! hErE mY cOnStEnT wHiNinIg wHiLe I JeRk oFf tO pOrN GaMe aNd hAvE nO rEaL wOrLd RoMaNtIc iNtErEsTs. I aRe AlPhA mAle. MEoW.:HideThePain::HideThePain::HideThePain:

Same argument. Every time. Just going to beat that dead horse into paste.
 

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The download links are for a 5A file type. Isn't that some type of Linux file, not a compression?
It's not a 5a file type, that's the version number. For some reason there's no file extension so Windows treats everything after the last '.' as the extension. It's actually some kind of archive (don't know what format, could just be a normal .zip maybe), you should be able to open it manually with 7zip or WinRar or whatever you normally use (for 7zip you can right-click the file and pick "Open Archive", probably similar for WinRar)
No idea why the uploader did it that way, feels kind of sketchy
 

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You're absolutely making no sense.
1st you bring up being shut out of this game because it has no non-NTR options because having options is best.
2nd you refuse other games would be better if the option for NTR was there which contrasts with your 1st statement.
3rd you say the person you're replying to looks to be pushing a personal kink into the game when you're the one asking for non-NTR options to be added on the NTR-branded game :WaitWhat:
1. No, read it again

2. No, I said that the comparison was not symmetrical in both directions because NTR is dependent on preexisting vanilla relationships, where the reverse isn't true. Again, read better. I notice you didn't quote that part of my comment, because it would counter your point #2. hmmm

3. I didn't ask for anything of the sort. I clearly said that the developer should be free to do whatever he wants, but I disagreed that doing a game that is a combination of other games including non-ntr games, and then making that entire thing NTR focused was a good idea in my opinion. That's like taking a bunch of characters from romance and action movies and putting them all together into a romance movie. I think fans of Rambo and John Wick would be disappointed if they appeared in a movie with no action. That would be letting down the fans of those characters, which the dev is free to do, but I think is a poor choice because it splits the fans. Having both NTR and non-NTR options in a game with NTR and non-NTR characters just makes more sense in my opinion.


If none of what I said makes sense, it's most likely because you're being willfully dense. I don't really feel like trying to coax you into rationality, so go ahead and throw your toys out of the crib. Go back and read more carefully. I'm going to ignore you now. Have fun
 

azz111

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English is not my native language, so I apologize for any mistakes. :)

Of course. I think there might have been some misunderstanding about my point. I didn’t mean to take away the freedom of choice. What I wanted to say is that whether it’s an NTR game or not, the freedom of choice should be equally available to both sides. I might have conveyed my point poorly.

And, this is just my personal opinion: NTR, as its name implies, is about losing someone you love to another person.
Therefore, if the protagonist is not in a pure one-on-one romantic relationship with someone, I don't think other women having relationships with other men can be considered NTR.

For example, Megan and Jessica are the protagonist's family. If they date other men or have one-night stands, it can’t really be considered NTR. If the protagonist's mom sleeps with the dad, is that NTR? No, it’s not. And if the protagonist isn’t in a relationship with Amy and she’s with another man, that’s also not NTR. In Mia’s case, even though it’s an incestuous relationship, they love each other, so if Mia were to have a relationship with another man, that could be considered NTR. However, if Emma were to have a relationship with another man, would that be considered NTR?

If we were to set the standard for NTR as any male character other than the protagonist having a relationship with any female character close to the protagonist, then can we really consider that NTR? By that logic, the whole world would essentially be full of NTR.

Harem, incest, and NTR are all just differences in personal preference. It’s hard to understand how someone could be okay with harem and incest but not with NTR. Ultimately, I think the best approach is for developers to create games however they want. What matters most is the vision and intentions of the people making the game. Thank you.

"Of course. I think there might have been some misunderstanding about my point. I didn’t mean to take away the freedom of choice. What I wanted to say is that whether it’s an NTR game or not, the freedom of choice should be equally available to both sides. I might have conveyed my point poorly."

No, you're fine. I apologize if I misunderstood or misinterpreted you.

And, this is just my personal opinion: NTR, as its name implies, is about losing someone you love to another person.
Therefore, if the protagonist is not in a pure one-on-one romantic relationship with someone, I don't think other women having relationships with other men can be considered NTR.

I agree with you here. Except that some people consider a woman who is part of their harem to be as much "theirs" as if it was monogamous.

"For example, Megan and Jessica are the protagonist's family. If they date other men or have one-night stands, it can’t really be considered NTR. If the protagonist's mom sleeps with the dad, is that NTR? No, it’s not. And if the protagonist isn’t in a relationship with Amy and she’s with another man, that’s also not NTR. In Mia’s case, even though it’s an incestuous relationship, they love each other, so if Mia were to have a relationship with another man, that could be considered NTR. However, if Emma were to have a relationship with another man, would that be considered NTR?"

Interesting point. I agree that many people are too quick to call things NTR. I would likely say that if an average player is or wants to be in some sort of relationship with a character in the game, they would probably not like to see them getting with another NPC. Is that NTR? I'm no expert, but you have a point that if they aren't yours (yet), then they can't really be cheating on you. I think the negative reaction by players is more like if you had a crush on a girl from afar, but somebody else asked her out first. She's not cheating on you, and it isn't NTR, so they aren't doing anything wrong, but people still can be disappointed by it. That's more jealousy and being possessive than NTR or anything.

"If we were to set the standard for NTR as any male character other than the protagonist having a relationship with any female character close to the protagonist, then can we really consider that NTR? By that logic, the whole world would essentially be full of NTR."

We agree here as well. It sounds silly when you put it that way.

"Harem, incest, and NTR are all just differences in personal preference. It’s hard to understand how someone could be okay with harem and incest but not with NTR. Ultimately, I think the best approach is for developers to create games however they want. What matters most is the vision and intentions of the people making the game. Thank you."

Disagree that someone who is okay with harem and incest should also be okay with NTR. I think it's perfectly normal for people to be particular about their own preferences, even when they don't make rational sense, lol. To the rest of that paragraph, I couldn't agree more. I think in general that badgering creators to include or exclude certain fetishes is a bad idea. But I can understand them being upset to some degree if they feel misled, especially if they've been donating money to support one type of game and suddenly the game changes without warning. That could be an NTR game suddenly removing NTR, or a Non-NTR game suddenly changing to be all about NTR. In any case, I appreciate the thoughtful response. Cheers
 

azz111

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This game is clearly a strictly NTR game, has all the warnings and tags.
Deal with it or don't play it. I'm so tired of this God damn argument from you people. It's exhausting.
I'll take a page from your book and say this is clearly an opinion, deal with it or don't read. I'm so tired of people who can't take disagreement. It's exhausting.

No need to get so assmad. Settle down. I was polite and reasonable. If you can't do the same, then don't be surprised when people don't want to talk to you. Have fun
 

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1. No, read it again

2. No, I said that the comparison was not symmetrical in both directions because NTR is dependent on preexisting vanilla relationships, where the reverse isn't true. Again, read better. I notice you didn't quote that part of my comment, because it would counter your point #2. hmmm

3. I didn't ask for anything of the sort. I clearly said that the developer should be free to do whatever he wants, but I disagreed that doing a game that is a combination of other games including non-ntr games, and then making that entire thing NTR focused was a good idea in my opinion. That's like taking a bunch of characters from romance and action movies and putting them all together into a romance movie. I think fans of Rambo and John Wick would be disappointed if they appeared in a movie with no action. That would be letting down the fans of those characters, which the dev is free to do, but I think is a poor choice because it splits the fans. Having both NTR and non-NTR options in a game with NTR and non-NTR characters just makes more sense in my opinion.


If none of what I said makes sense, it's most likely because you're being willfully dense. I don't really feel like trying to coax you into rationality, so go ahead and throw your toys out of the crib. Go back and read more carefully. I'm going to ignore you now. Have fun
1. No? Let's see here...
...why shut out the non NTR fans of the included non NTR games?
So, you don't feel shut out then... I must have misinterpreted this line where you specifically ask why this game shuts out non NTR fans.

2. Here it's clear your opinion is that Inceton games should not include NTR but Inceton-NTR games should include non-NTR options.
I do agree there's nuance to this but man, it does come across as selfish. Specially coming from someone who says :
why not be for those people being able to choose? Iirc the mia games had some avoidable NTR, and it didn't seem to be a big deal, because you had a choice.
Why not, in turn, have the options of NTR on all those games as in your example with Mia here, you said yourself it is not a big deal when it's optional. You can't be of two minds here. If you are for options then accept it when they get included in other games, not just this one. If not then don't wish for them to be included when it's convenient for your taste.

3.The dev had already split the fanbase back when they made a separate branch for NTR games. They're not deciding on that when making RoT. That was a premeditated decision possibly to avoid backlash from people pushing back on their ideas like you're doing here. You don't like the idea for this game, the game is clearly not for you so I don't get what your trying to accomplish by disagreeing on the game's premise.
 
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Since the file name extension ends with .5a, Windows, for example, cannot recognize the type of file. I'm not a programmer, but I assume that if you put .5a-Win (or -mac) at the end of the file name, Windows will also take the .zip, and the file is unusable as it is now.
Sorry, but English is not my native language.
 

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Who is who to whom?
just write “blood relative” and it will fit. “kinswoman” is also commonly used. Write “heir” to spice it up.
Is there a naming and relationship cheat sheet for people who haven't played any of the other games?
bummer, play the other games like you are told in the intro or you'll miss all the fun in this one. LT and SWM/R2M are compulsory games, SB not really, and I didn't play PoD.
is this original character from this game or from another inceton games ?
This is Naomi from LB. Would recommend to play.
 

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Since the file name extension ends with .5a, Windows, for example, cannot recognize the type of file. I'm not a programmer, but I assume that if you put .5a-Win (or -mac) at the end of the file name, Windows will also take the .zip, and the file is unusable as it is now.
Sorry, but English is not my native language.
Just rename it:

stocazzo.5a ----> stocazzo.5a.zip - Now Windows recognizes it as a ZIP

OR you could use, for instance, 7zip. Right click the file regardless of its extension (it could even be stocazzo.staminchia.wtf) and select "Extract". Providing that the file actually IS in ZIP format, it will be extracted regardless its extension.
 
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ZenoMod

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Is there a naming and relationship cheat sheet for people who haven't played any of the other games?
Yes, nutka is right.
Most of the fun of this game is knowing the characters from the game they come from.

Play other games first.

If you want to just play one Inceton game, this is not the one you should play.

Choose one of the others.
Then if you liked it, play the rest of the others.

When you are done, play this.

You would spoil your own fun by starting from this one.


bummer, play the other games like you are told in the intro or you'll miss all the fun in this one. LT and SWM/R2M are compulsory games, SB not really, and I didn't play PoD.

This is Naomi from LB. Would recommend to play.
 
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fabulous007

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Yes, nutka is right.
Most of the fun of this game is knowing the characters from the game they come from.

Play other games first.

If you want to just play one Inceton game, this is not the one you should play.

Choose one of the others.
Then if you liked it, play the rest of the others.

When you are done, play this.

You would spoil your own fun by starting from this one.
You're exgerating imho, knowing the characters a little is useful but you don't have to do the entire game and certainly not ALL the games (who the fuck did ?). I only finished Summer with Mia and I don't think I'll ever have the strength to finish Lust Theory, it's too long and after a lot of time on that game I can say with certainty that it's not interesting to me, even if the models are super hot. I don't think I'll finish Returning to Mia too, honestly, I prefered the first game. I may play one of the kinky inceton games I didn't do in the future, but never Lust Theory at least. So if I don't play Resort of Temptation now, I'll never do, and I have a lot of fun with that game. Very entertaining.
 
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