Avaron1974

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True, that part might not make the game for everyone ( me being one, I could not get past chapter one already where one of the girl was hit and other things were implied to happen), but tell the story you want to tell.
It sets the tone for certain characters and plays into the story a few times with regards to certain characters.

If it makes people uncomfortable, that's the point. It's supposed to.

It's there to glorify the act, it's there to show the aftermath and how it affects those characters.
 

DA22

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It sets the tone for certain characters and plays into the story a few times with regards to certain characters.

If it makes people uncomfortable, that's the point. It's supposed to.

It's there to glorify the act, it's there to show the aftermath and how it affects those characters.
Yeah, still it makes it hard to impossible to play it for some like me. Nothing wrong with that, a dev cannot take into account everyone's past, experiences and dislikes that grew from those. Drama for some and appreciated is a turn off for others, just the way it is.
 

Avaron1974

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Yeah, still it makes it hard to impossible to play it for some like me. Nothing wrong with that, a dev cannot take into account everyone's past, experiences and dislikes that grew from those. Drama for some and appreciated is a turn off for others, just the way it is.
I'm not saying people have to play it, obviously there are going to be some that can't see scenes like that due to personal trauma. I'm lucky neither I nor anyone I know has been through that.

Devs can't remove everything that makes people uncomfortable though or they would have to remove huge chunks of their game.

People are adults here, it's down to them to decide if they should play it or not, like you did. Giving devs constructive criticism and advice is one thing but asking devs to change their story or remove parts because it's too dark for them is a bit of a piss take.
 
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I'm not saying people have to play it, obviously there are going to be some that can't see scenes like that due to personal trauma. I'm lucky neither I nor anyone I know has been through that.

Devs can't remove everything that makes people uncomfortable though or they would have to remove huge chunks of their game.

People are adults here, it's down to them to decide if they should play it or not, like you did. Giving devs constructive criticism and advice is one thing but asking devs to change their story or remove parts because it's too dark for them is a bit of a piss take.
Agreed,it is up to a dev to decide if that content is necessary for their game in the end and story. Up to me to make my decision after that, it was clear enough what it was leading up to so I could pull out in time. That is the only thing I do ask, to be warned in time so I can make that decision in time.
 

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Yes each Season had 6 episodes but i/we thought it will probably go over to 6/7 episodes and then Epilogue
i was under the impression you had stated your game would have 4 season of 6 episodes each... is season 3 the last one now?
what's the reason of the change of plan?
 

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Season 4 was only going to have 1 episode which would've been the Epilogue.

Rogue convinced me its kinda stupid calling it S4E1 if its just an epilogue. Season 3 is the last one. In my mind i have 7 episodes, that's including Epilogue setup for Season 3... but as the Wheel weaves the wheel of time, things may change, always do...

Damn i just quoted Robert Jordan and Otis from Last Starfighter there. BOOM baby...

NOW listen.. RTP has a very big cast and many side stories can develop from it or sequel or prequel etc... I may revisit RTP in years to come. I am at a point where I feel I need to end current story fro RTP. Trust me i could've carried on with the story and stretch it out but then i'd just have to call it "Days of our lives" with a porn overtone.

i was under the impression you had stated your game would have 4 season of 6 episodes each... is season 3 the last one now?
what's the reason of the change of plan?
 

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NOW listen.. RTP has a very big cast and many side stories can develop from it or sequel or prequel etc... I may revisit RTP in years to come. I am at a point where I feel I need to end current story fro RTP. Trust me i could've carried on with the story and stretch it out but then i'd just have to call it "Days of our lives" with a porn overtone.
Um... That doesnt sound bad to me at all... In fact here's an idea... make an "elseworld" story based on the RTP universe !!

Main scenario - Jensen is still a super soldier, Adam never went Psycho cause Jade never died. Instead Jade became identical to Jamie (from WVM), and told Jensen "you know what babe ? your super-ness needs to be shared with the world, go out there and get hot chicks pregnant, as long as you tell me about it".... *cue porn music*

Basically a slice of life pornfest with an ACTUAL ADULT male MC !

Or shit if you feel that might be copying a little too much from WVM... lets do scenario 2 !!

In this parallel universe ranger team all died heroically to save the world... But one last superhuman remains, SHE is the last of her kind as the formula to make more has been lost, the data and lab destroyed... and the world is a better place for it. This woman is Eve...

Join Eve as she goes around living a pleasant life and finding the place where she belongs... which quite often is between another woman's legs... (she gets access to all the females from RTP since this is an alternate universe, even Nicky, Vicky, Mei, and her sister !!)
 

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FUUUUUUUUUUUTAAAAAAAAAAAAA Eve.. dude brilliant idea.... ;) :ROFLMAO:


Um... That doesnt sound bad to me at all... In fact here's an idea... make an "elseworld" story based on the RTP universe !!

Main scenario - Jensen is still a super soldier, Adam never went Psycho cause Jade never died. Instead Jade became identical to Jamie (from WVM), and told Jensen "you know what babe ? your super-ness needs to be shared with the world, go out there and get hot chicks pregnant, as long as you tell me about it".... *cue porn music*

Basically a slice of life pornfest with an ACTUAL ADULT male MC !

Or shit if you feel that might be copying a little too much from WVM... lets do scenario 2 !!

In this parallel universe ranger team all died heroically to save the world... But one last superhuman remains, SHE is the last of her kind as the formula to make more has been lost, the data and lab destroyed... and the world is a better place for it. This woman is Eve...

Join Eve as she goes around living a pleasant life and finding the place where she belongs... which quite often is between another woman's legs... (she gets access to all the females from RTP since this is an alternate universe, even Nicky, Vicky, Mei, and her sister !!)
 
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FUUUUUUUUUUUTAAAAAAAAAAAAA Eve.. dude brilliant idea.... ;) :ROFLMAO:
wasnt exactly thinking Futa, but hell, I'd still play it... As long its actual futa, and not trans... meaning (dick and a pussy underneath, no ball-sack). Bonus points if its part of powers, meaning she can grow the dick on command, so those that want lesbian content can get that, and those that want to see a girl dicked out can get that as well...

Sorta like how Super-powered lets you pick in the middle of the action if the MC transitions into a full female, futa, or stays male, hell I think he can even expand his dick to LOL...
 

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Fair enough. Here's the thing though. I can either castrate the story/impact i would like to make by telling the story by doing as you suggest or I can simply write to make the game really speak to people.

I chose not to show the rape as I find it distasteful to glorify rape. However showing her helpless I believe generates hatred towards rape, Adam and the fucker who performed the heinous act. Adam did deal with that fucker in a very swift way.

I guess watching a movie that has scenes in it you do not like you would stop it midway and watch something else? IF so then by all means do so with RTP.

Lately I've seen too many developers catering for Harem/incest/loli etc to please the crowds and forgoing what is really necessary and that is telling their story to make more money i guess, not sure about this.

The comments I am about to make are not intended to be rude MrKnobb, you are a very gifted game developer and director. I haven't seen this level of story crafting in what is essentially a story driven porn game before. Your renders are utterly amazing. But a game such as this story is a dynamic one, crafted by the player, based on the options available. When you willfully limit those options in order to propel your own idea of how the MC should behave in the story, you are essentially writing a game which is really more of a kinetic novel. The relationships and what happens in them should be the playground of the player - the main core of your story are the major events going on around those characters as they bed hop their way through the narrative.

Basically forcing the player to choose between the women in his life in this way is ,in my opinion, perhaps good story writing but poor game writing. As we are all here to play a dynamically altering game, an engaging story is a big bonus while we, the players, craft our own version of what is and isn't morally acceptable to the MC. The lack of choice is the reason why I don't read kinetic novels - because I am just a passive observer in them.

It is extremely difficult to fault you Mr Knobb you really are one of the best developers around and I am not trying to insult you with these words. But this is ,at least in my opinion, a mistake. Catering to your audience is not necessarily a bad thing -many writers over the years have done it, while still staying true to their craft. You have a story to tell, and I have a character to play. Let the situations create the choices that the player will then choose. I would like to feel that I decide the MC's path through his life, otherwise I am simply watching a low frame rate movie.

Peace and love, and once again, sincerely, congratulations on a very well written and beautifully crafted gsme.
 

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The comments I am about to make are not intended to be rude MrKnobb, you are a very gifted game developer and director. I haven't seen this level of story crafting in what is essentially a story driven porn game before. Your renders are utterly amazing. But a game such as this story is a dynamic one, crafted by the player, based on the options available. When you willfully limit those options in order to propel your own idea of how the MC should behave in the story, you are essentially writing a game which is really more of a kinetic novel. The relationships and what happens in them should be the playground of the player - the main core of your story are the major events going on around those characters as they bed hop their way through the narrative.

Basically forcing the player to choose between the women in his life in this way is ,in my opinion, perhaps good story writing but poor game writing. As we are all here to play a dynamically altering game, an engaging story is a big bonus while we, the players, craft our own version of what is and isn't morally acceptable to the MC. The lack of choice is the reason why I don't read kinetic novels - because I am just a passive observer in them.

It is extremely difficult to fault you Mr Knobb you really are one of the best developers around and I am not trying to insult you with these words. But this is ,at least in my opinion, a mistake. Catering to your audience is not necessarily a bad thing -many writers over the years have done it, while still staying true to their craft. You have a story to tell, and I have a character to play. Let the situations create the choices that the player will then choose. I would like to feel that I decide the MC's path through his life, otherwise I am simply watching a low frame rate movie.

Peace and love, and once again, sincerely, congratulations on a very well written and beautifully crafted gsme.
You might want to wait for his next game, that will have everything people have been asking for.

The guy has said it enough times now, it's not changing in this game. It's nearly finished now and to change 2 seasons worth of stuff is too much.

It was all planned out this way, you can't have everything you want.
 

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(y) That's fair enough then, in which case this is virtual novel and not a linear choice based game. Which is fine. I was obviously mistaken thinking it was a game.
 

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Hey man thx for the comments. Here is basically the answer from the start along with no harem/incest.
I've always used the word "Game" lightly as its very linear yes. Main "game" part is just choosing one lady out of the 3 choices.
No worries if its not for you.


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The comments I am about to make are not intended to be rude MrKnobb, you are a very gifted game developer and director. I haven't seen this level of story crafting in what is essentially a story driven porn game before. Your renders are utterly amazing. But a game such as this story is a dynamic one, crafted by the player, based on the options available. When you willfully limit those options in order to propel your own idea of how the MC should behave in the story, you are essentially writing a game which is really more of a kinetic novel. The relationships and what happens in them should be the playground of the player - the main core of your story are the major events going on around those characters as they bed hop their way through the narrative.

Basically forcing the player to choose between the women in his life in this way is ,in my opinion, perhaps good story writing but poor game writing. As we are all here to play a dynamically altering game, an engaging story is a big bonus while we, the players, craft our own version of what is and isn't morally acceptable to the MC. The lack of choice is the reason why I don't read kinetic novels - because I am just a passive observer in them.

It is extremely difficult to fault you Mr Knobb you really are one of the best developers around and I am not trying to insult you with these words. But this is ,at least in my opinion, a mistake. Catering to your audience is not necessarily a bad thing -many writers over the years have done it, while still staying true to their craft. You have a story to tell, and I have a character to play. Let the situations create the choices that the player will then choose. I would like to feel that I decide the MC's path through his life, otherwise I am simply watching a low frame rate movie.

Peace and love, and once again, sincerely, congratulations on a very well written and beautifully crafted gsme.
 

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Hey man thx for the comments. Here is basically the answer from the start along with no harem/incest.
I've always used the word "Game" lightly as its very linear yes. Main "game" part is just choosing one lady out of the 3 choices.
No worries if its not for you.
3 things in every F95 thread, Request for harem, incest patch or ntr. It's like they are a cult.
 

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I played the update and what can i say man, finally some action with Vikki been waiting a long time for this hehe.

Nicky Nicky Nicky, she was my favorite but after the previous update, my love for her was almost gone, glad we could avoid this issue on this update but honestly i wish we could have avoided it in the previous update, that way she would still be my favorite, oh well good thing we have another two beauties.

Btw check this, she is so hypocrite
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Yeah right you feel the same thing (after the previous update i know this isn't true)
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Btw i dont dislike Mei or 3somes but for me she was cheating with that kiss with Mei.

About the rape on the game, i agree that it was hard to read and watch (even though we didn't see much) but still,honestly if you guys weren't good at writing i would have leave this game a long time ago, i just hope that rape isn't a main topic again in future games, there's a lot more ways to create drama or shock on the players, not just rape, i mean Retrieving the past was focused a lot on that topic, i hope this doesn't become the main focus for all your games (this was my main problem when deciding if i would support this game financially)

Anyway i really need to see how this ends man, such a good story going on here.

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Edit: is there any plan on putting all three seasons on one game only??
 
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