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Chucke1992

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I started this one way back and finally came back to it. Man, it was definitely worth waiting for the additional content. I don't think I went beyond the third or fourth day originally, so I had no idea how much the plot would develop and how much better that area of the game would get.

Great renders, hot models, and tons of sex really keep the game moving as well. I have to say, I'm looking forward to seeing where the pregnancy points lead as I've maxed a couple already.

I am a bit let down by the submission vs. love options though. It feels a bit rough that that the submissive ladies develop a more affectionate relationship with the MC, but still only get submission points. Not a big deal though in the long run.

Personality wise, I'm not sure who my favorite is so far. It's probably a tie between Khloe and Mary due to their playfulness.

Look-wise, I'm going with Jessica as my first pick. Of course, Sandra is an easy addition for top tier as an Eva Angelica fan. Keira is up there along with MILFs, Karen and Linda.

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The thing is that due to amount of characters introduced into the story, some of them will be left behind one way or another until later date. Like we have 30 girls introduced here. It is worth it due to really hot renders, but c'mon
 
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OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney

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The thing is that due to amount of characters introduced into the story, some of them will be left behind one way or another until late date. Like we have 30 girls introduced here. It is worth it due to really hot renders, but c'mon
It's because the dev is not a writer, he doesn't know how to balance the various scenarios. So far the game has been made in "days", and you cannot put so much content during a day, especially if the content involves the MC. He should change the days in chapters, and then give all the girls almost the same amount of content. He should speed up the "joining the harem" a bit with the girls left behind, and then he should focus on the main plot.
 

jasad

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Made an incest patch maybe someone will be interested.
version: [v0.60]
feature: makes Linda mc's Mother. Jennifer, Nicole, Lisa - mc's sisters, сhanges some lines in the game.
install: Unzip to the "game" folder.

notes:
This patch should work with future versions(unless the dev changes the code), may(or not) require an update for new content.
There are a lot of branches in the game, so I must have missed something, let me know if you see it(preferably with a description of the scene and line text, a screenshot would also help).
thx for the update~ :LOL:
 

kktcross

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Question: when is the point that having choice/giving player a choice in game starts to hinder development?

in my opinion (if you dont agree keep it civil please) "cosmetic" choices are waste of development time and resouces yea its cool that we have choice but if scope creep means updates takes longer and from thousands of renders big chunk is just re-rendering same scene different cosmetic edits maybe it would be better to more develop story or kinks instead

you see more variable there are more times scene or part of the scene have to be re-rendered or maybe text altered and dev have to keep track of everything and burn time in the proces now imagine example if in scene with only MC lisa anya
mc smoking 1 mc dont smoke 2
lisa short hair 1 lisa long hair 2
anya big boobs 1 anya medium boobs 2
111,121,112,122
222,212,221,211

8 they might have to render single scene 8 times and what about something more extreme if in our example scene is also Jade from changelog we know we could alter her appearance (a red haired beauty with small or large breasts) or we add nicole she might be on love or sub route and clothes or facial expresion have to be altered for her... hope you get the example

i am not flaming or hating devs for what they did its their game after all just pointing out that less is more and they should have presented characters as they envisioned them for us and save time in proces
 

JimmyJazz69

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Question: when is the point that having choice/giving player a choice in game starts to hinder development?

in my opinion (if you dont agree keep it civil please) "cosmetic" choices are waste of development time and resouces yea its cool that we have choice but if scope creep means updates takes longer and from thousands of renders big chunk is just re-rendering same scene different cosmetic edits maybe it would be better to more develop story or kinks instead

you see more variable there are more times scene or part of the scene have to be re-rendered or maybe text altered and dev have to keep track of everything and burn time in the proces now imagine example if in scene with only MC lisa anya
mc smoking 1 mc dont smoke 2
lisa short hair 1 lisa long hair 2
anya big boobs 1 anya medium boobs 2
111,121,112,122
222,212,221,211

8 they might have to render single scene 8 times and what about something more extreme if in our example scene is also Jade from changelog we know we could alter her appearance (a red haired beauty with small or large breasts) or we add nicole she might be on love or sub route and clothes or facial expresion have to be altered for her... hope you get the example

i am not flaming or hating devs for what they did its their game after all just pointing out that less is more and they should have presented characters as they envisioned them for us and save time in proces
Good point, actually. I mean, I *do* like the choices, but if they will delay de development of the project (multiplying the need for renders), it would probably be for the best to keep it simple, go with the dev vision and let be it.
 

OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney

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Good point, actually. I mean, I *do* like the choices, but if they will delay de development of the project (multiplying the need for renders), it would probably be for the best to keep it simple, go with the dev vision and let be it.
It all depends on the dev's skills and effort in making the game. In this case, considering that the dev is slow as fuck, is a bad idea, but if you try the other game in my signature, you will see that is full of choices (also aestethic), and the dev created coherent routes and renders for all the choiches.
Most important, in that game, the dev releases every month like a Swiss clock.
 

Darth Vengeant

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When trying to view anya's stats I get this:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While loading <'Image' u'images/Statistics/stats_anya2_sb.png'>:
IOError: Couldn't find file 'images/Statistics/stats_anya2_sb.png'.

I tried the image fix file but her screen is all messed up if I use it.
 

ThaDude1977

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I'm sorry but playing a harem game and complaining about the number of women is like playing a vanilla romance game and griping about how much romance there is. Or playing a NTR game and complaining about being cucked. I don't get it.
That's not the same at all. Having to many girls in a Harem could lead to and usually does to your favorite girl not getting enough content and after a while they get lost in the shuffle and forgotten. IMO 5-6 girls in a Harem and maybe 2-3 side girls is enough.
 

OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney

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this is why if there are too many girls, group sex should be more common, 3somes, orgies etc. Why wasting a scene for one girl, if u can have few of them at the same time
This is because the dev doesn't actually know what he is doing, just think about the sex scenes in this VN, endless descriptions of the action and no dirty talk at all, think if he has to make description for an orgy, you will spend 30 minutes to read a 3 renders scene.
 

Dragon59

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Question: when is the point that having choice/giving player a choice in game starts to hinder development?
Tough question. Not enough choice and the AVN gets labeled as a "Kinetic Novel." Too much choice and it drifts away from AVN into more a "porn game" than a story.

My own preference is on the story side. Personally, I prefer to explore the environment as a story with some character development. That's a big part that is lost when there are "too many choices," whether those choices are actions or LIs. The more choices, the harder it is for characters to have any depth to their personalities, let alone opportunities to grow (for the record, I'm not considering penile growth and pregnancy growth as character growth).
 
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m3jez

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anyone else annoyed by the fact that every conversation gets repeated a million times
 

cariadult

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I don't get it why i cannot avoid Lisa as LI. I restarted my game and still forced to be with her as lover

anyone else annoyed by the fact that every conversation gets repeated a million times
Also the majority of the story is boring, too much characters, and it is clear the developer already lose its grip about the story. Jumpy here and there, i can say it is a pretty big mess.

Not to mention the script errors. If some of the LI here is not physically interesting to me, i would ignore the game completely :D
 

OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney

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I don't get it why i cannot avoid Lisa as LI. I restarted my game and still forced to be with her as lover


Also the majority of the story is boring, too much characters, and it is clear the developer already lose its grip about the story. Jumpy here and there, i can say it is a pretty big mess.

Not to mention the script errors. If some of the LI here is not physically interesting to me, i would ignore the game completely :D
The dev is an amateur who has a day job and "works" on this game in his free time, moreover, he doesn't give a fuck about the community feedback.
 
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