VN Ren'Py Rick and Morty: Another Way Home [r4.0] [Night Mirror]

[RandyTyr]

So, here is what I am asking for if you feel like contributing:

• Is this something you want to see?
• And, what pre-defined name would you like to see in the list of options.

At the moment, pre-defined options include: Rose and Autumn, but I'd like a few more.

So what other names might Wild Summer might like to be called?

This doesn't add anything I'd really care for. Given that this is a kinetic novel so far, I'd rather leave the decision of whether/when Wild Summer decides she doesn't want to be called Summer anymore to you. Essentially, this should come if a) you/Ferdafs run out of ideas for "two people with the same name"-jokes or b) she undergoes some kind of drastic character growth to go along with it (my choice would be: She finally manages to fuck Jerry, who so utterly sucks that she has to to reevaluate her life).

If she gets a new name, Autumn and Rose are both options I can see myself going with. "Rose" would make sense as a middle name to me, and Autumn is obvious.

 

[Night Mirror]

you/Ferdafs run out of ideas for "two people with the same name"-jokes

I will never run out of bad name jokes!

she undergoes some kind of drastic character growth to go along with it

There is a fair bit of character growth in this new scene (it's about 300 lines long atm), and this choice is brought on by Jerry's lack of sensitivity (calling her Summer number two (as he says back at the end of Beth's massage scene)).

If she gets a new name, Autumn and Rose are both options I can see myself going with

Players will have the options: not to rename, or custom name as well. Additional names are for player participation.

 

[Xx21savagexX]

So what other names might Wild Summer might like to be called?

how about winter since its the opposite of summer

 

[WatsonTouya]

• Is this something you want to see?
• And, what pre-defined name would you like to see in the list of options.

Honestly, I'm waaaaaaaaaay on the no rename option, because even if she's a little(really) different, at the end of the day, she's still Summer.

how about winter since its the opposite of summer

Morty makes her cum.
Ned Stark: "Winter is cumming"

: p

Yes I will kill myself tonight.

 

[wibbled]

Autumn? Winter? ... I thought her season would be obvious ...

... she is always alert, and ready to Spring into action.

I wouldn't want a forced name change, but an option to change it, is fine.

P.S. I heard she took on a middle name ... Olivia ... Summer Olivia Smith ... S.O.S.

 

[Perfidy]

I kinda like Wild Summer as a name.

 

[kenta16807]

Knowing wild Summer She would probably choose Jerrie...

She doesn't get as much 'screentime' as Summer, that would make Her June

Since She's the Summer from Cronenbergworld She could be Cummer...

Honestly, I'm waaaaaaaaaay on the no rename option, because even if she's a little(really) different, at the end of the day, she's still Summer.

+1 - Having two Summers is not a problem, we've got lots of Mortys and Beths and Jessicas ...

Yes I will kill myself tonight.

Please don't.

 

[Suspicious_Cephalopod]

I don't understand what the confusion is about. She's summer from c-137 - the 'original' universe as far as we know - so let's just call her Summer C-137, or just 'Summer' for short. That's how the show handles it. I'd be pretty pissed if I found out the multiverse as a concept was real and that my duplicates insist I get called a beta. People in real life have the same names and it's not hard to work out. Let's just get her a crop top to show off those abs and we're good to go.

 

[kenta16807]

...She's summer from c-137...

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[kimlana]

I'd be pretty pissed if I found out the multiverse as a concept was real and that my duplicates insist I get called a beta

I think the topic of debate is that yes, she's Summer in her own dimension, but she's now permanently no longer in her dimension. On top of that, she's living with a family where someone has the same name. Those two factors would almost always result in a name change of some kind.

Case in point, very often workplaces have people with the same name. One workplace I was in had three people legal name of "James". One preferred James. Two preferred Jim. We jokingly suggested one of them could be "Jimmy" but that was refused. So we just called them both by first name last initial, Jim D, Jim M. Since both Summers have the same last name, that also doesn't work!

Only the sitcom universe would have people constantly confusing each other, either for the jokes or to set up someone to overhear the wrong character is pregnant so that there's a big embarrassing reveal after someone proposes to the wrong person, ha ha.

Does it matter in a porn game? Depend on if "Wild Summer" become more of a main character or not. Players like agency, they like to be able to give their favorite characters sentience. If Wild Summer was "real" would she choose to assert her own identity instead of being Summer 2 or Other Summer? Probably. Plus, the coomers probably aren't reading for the jokes anyway or investigating the naming options so they will be unaffected.

 

[Suspicious_Cephalopod]

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You got me, i'm a fake fan. I don't really care.

Case in point, very often workplaces have people with the same name. One workplace I was in had three people legal name of "James". One preferred James. Two preferred Jim. We jokingly suggested one of them could be "Jimmy" but that was refused. So we just called them both by first name last initial, Jim D, Jim M. Since both Summers have the same last name, that also doesn't work!

I still just don't understand this perspective. I have also been in several workplaces that have multiple people with the same name, and I certainly got by with just using their name, or other less personal identifiers. It seems like a very sitcom universe kind of problem.

Does it matter in a porn game? Depend on if "Wild Summer" become more of a main character or not. Players like agency, they like to be able to give their favorite characters sentience. If Wild Summer was "real" would she choose to assert her own identity instead of being Summer 2 or Other Summer? Probably. Plus, the coomers probably aren't reading for the jokes anyway or investigating the naming options so they will be unaffected.

'Wild Summer' is fine as a name, and people can just call her Summer in conversation like normal humans. Having a naming option to give her a custom name in a sexual roleplay context also makes sense. Also it's a game so rick K-16807 can whip up a re-namer and that's all the justification needed.

 

[Night Mirror]

I asked for feedback to get a feel for what people want, and is seems overwhelmingly that the responses have been, "don't include the name change option".

While it is part of the scene (and doesn't just come out of nowhere) it's by no means critical. Mostly, the intent was to give more choice to players (and expose the rename system to players that may have missed it). Again, the rename itself was optional, with branched response for not changing, for picking a preset name, or a custom name.

So, I'm taking the sequence out. For those that want to give (Wild) Summer a different name, the rename feature still exists, but there won't be a story point around it, and the game will still (mostly) treat her as if she and (Classic) Summer share the same name.

Thanks for the feedback! Stay awesome!

 

[aaronminus]

Sigh... I was really looking forward to that option. People who wanted to keep "Wild Summer" could have done so, I just didn't say anything praising the idea because "Autumn" was what I would have chosen. Having "Summer" used interchangeably between the two has always read very clunky to me.

I think it's a good option to give the player and makes sense for Wild Summer to assert. But if I'm the only one who would use it, I guess I'll suck it up.

 

[kimlana]

I still just don't understand this perspective.

Let me put it another way, have you ever heard of identical twins with the same first name? Why do you suppose that doesn't happen? Wild Summer is Summer's identical twin. The only saving grace to tell them apart right now is that Wild Summer hasn't had a day at the salon to tame that hairstyle (both of 'em). Were she ever to do that, to become "civilized" how do we as players even know which one is which? Easiest way (other than different name color) is different name. Even just a subtle variation on the original name, like Mortimer vs Morticia.

Why does Morticia insist on being called "Morticia" instead of "Morty" or "Female Morty" or "Morty without a dick"? Because Morticia views herself as a unique individual and not just Morty Variant #23423. That was part of her character design. Morticia is obviously a much more popular and well-developed character. I suggest Wild Summer would feel the same way if she wasn't just a background character.

 

[slowpersun]

Yes, keep your hype low. The request list is a way for me to track what players have asked for, not a promise it will ever make it into the game. It is easy to ask for things, easy to put them on the list, but... usually a LOT more work to actually do the implementation aspect.

If you're curious, in my signature is a link to the request list so you can see what it is, and how it works.

Still kinda surprised no one has requested a Morphizer-XE branch after day 40 or something... Or has that been permanently rejected since too much opportunity to have wrong boobs overlap in a scene with code grabbing wrong overlap? Also, realistically stomach bulges should only show up after day ?? since game theoretically is tracking the growth of Morty's D (although not literally, since this isn't a sandbox version), but since some people want it for every scene, seems like a start game option would be in order.

For me, I use Clip Studio Paint to "draw" things, but mostly what I'm usually doing is finding assets already in game, compositing them into new/adapted pose I think fit, and tracing/drawing some different bits onto them.

These aren't vector graphics we are pulling off some website or 3D models, they are flat pngs. Someone is either drawing the new art by hand or like me adapting existing game assets.

Kinda surprised GIMP isn't being used, since it is free and pretty robust, but to each their own!

Edit: Actually, I guess GIMP isn't the best for free draw (although fine for retouching and image conversion), Inkscape is the generally suggested alternative. But again, dealer's choice!

 

[kimlana]

Still kinda surprised no one has requested a Morphizer-XE branch

Ferdafs is kinda already doing that, lol. Morticia went from this:


to THIS:


The problem is there's no way to make things consistent when even the original artist isn't being consistent. Night Mirror joked that perhaps they are using Morty's phone app, which is increasing their body part sizes along with his penis. I think he also posted somewhere about experimenting with overlays but they A) don't work for animations and B) would require a massive amount of extra work that might not be sustainable ongoing.

EDIT: As much as I dislike the look of 3D modeling compared to traditional 2D animation, it's certainly a LOT easier to mod a single 3D mesh/texture for permanent effect than to edit a hundred 2D images.

 

[slowpersun]

I think he also posted somewhere about experimenting with overlays but they A) don't work for animations and B) would require a massive amount of extra work that might not be sustainable ongoing.

EDIT: As much as I dislike the look of 3D modeling compared to traditional 2D animation, it's certainly a LOT easier to mod a single 3D mesh/texture for permanent effect than to edit a hundred 2D images.

Certainly B) is true, work vs. time is always a factor. And this game isn't being done for cashy money, so doubly understandable. Regarding A), I don't see how weighting rigging models can't be altered algorithmically based on what sliced image(s) a code base pulls... although this would of course depend on whether the coder wants to bother with/is capable of doing this in the first place.

And yeah, inconsistent art is a hallmark of the original game, though switching from 2D to 3D prolly accounts for the majority of the differences. Plus, aligning with Ferdafs vision, choices, etc... Curious, though, how the Citadel getting blown up is gonna be handled! Most likely ignored, though.

 

[Night Mirror]

Still kinda surprised no one has requested a Morphizer-XE branch after day 40 or something... Or has that been permanently rejected since too much opportunity to have wrong boobs overlap in a scene with code grabbing wrong overlap? Also, realistically stomach bulges should only show up after day ?? since game theoretically is tracking the growth of Morty's D (although not literally, since this isn't a sandbox version), but since some people want it for every scene, seems like a start game option would be in order.

Well the main reason body parts aren't changing shape/size is art, which doesn't exist and I would have to make. I have done some testing around variable boob sizes, and that is a significant amount of additional art that needed to be created.

Right now, I'm drawing eyelids for all the images, and that is immensely slow. Drawing modifyable boobs for even one character is just too much. Stomach sizes have the same issue.

Maybe one day? But very low on my todo list.

Kinda surprised GIMP isn't being used, since it is free and pretty robust, but to each their own!

Edit: Actually, I guess GIMP isn't the best for free draw (although fine for retouching and image conversion), Inkscape is the generally suggested alternative. But again, dealer's choice!

I have gimp and uses it for some very specific processes (mostly image type conversion). However, I don't like a lot of it's design and find many of the tasks I often need to do very tedious in it. I bought Clip Stuido a while back for other reasons, and like it a lot. It doesn't do everything I want but most of what it's missing would be on photoshop, and adobe can go fuck itself.

 

[Night Mirror]

I don't see how weighting rigging models can't be altered algorithmically based on what sliced image(s) a code base pulls

What? The only "models" the game has are the standing poses, and they are still flat pngs. All the art is pngs that have to be edited by hand for any changes.

though switching from 2D to 3D prolly accounts for the majority of the differences.

Uh, there is no switch from 2D to 3D?

 

[slowpersun]

What? The only "models" the game has are the standing poses, and they are still flat pngs. All the art is pngs that have to be edited by hand for any changes.

Uh, there is no switch from 2D to 3D?

Hmm, I had assumed that the png slices for animations were being assembled and rigged via a 3D model, even if really viewed as 2D (like stellaris's paper doll portraits). But I sit corrected!