VN Ren'Py Ripples [v0.8.0 Public] [Jestur]

[e6mill]

I am just going to download this to play now, do I need to also download the incest mod to get access to that stuff?

There isn't one. At least not one that's ONLY that...

 

[dolfe67]

Except that it very notably isn't December in game - and, ultimately, probably isn't even November or late October either due to placement of holidays. It's probably September based on general climate and the fact that, for an American town, the three major end-of-year holidays haven't been mentioned at all yet.

Even if it were December 31st on the night we impregnate one or more of the '99 girls, if we assume the standard 9 months' pregnancy that places every younger girl being born around late September. The game begins in late August/early September 2019, when the school year starts. I can't say I recall exactly how much time has passed in 2019 since the day Darci came back to town but if it's been more than a few weeks we'd already have skipped the birthdays of almost every girl in the game if implying they're our daughters was indeed the intention.

Not only would missing those birthdays be kind of a pointless skipping of milestones - birthday celebrations in a game are a great way to focus on a character - but it would also reveal another hole in the logic: all those birthdays would still feature the girls turning 19; in American schooling, this would mean every single one either started a year late or was held back a grade. That's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely.

But nothing prevents the MC to travel to 2000 later on if the dev really wanted to. However the incest is not supported anymore by the dev in any capacity anyway

 

[danb35]

Easy peasy

...except that every indication we have is that we're going back and forth by exactly 20 years. Your math doesn't work in that case.

 

[JJ1960]

...except that every indication we have is that we're going back and forth by exactly 20 years. Your math doesn't work in that case.

Gotta check that math...

 

[danb35]

But nothing prevents the MC to travel to 2000 later on

No.* Nor to travel by something other than exactly 20 years. Nor for someone to travel while pregnant. Nor, no doubt, a number of other possibilities. But with what we've seen so far, it isn't possible for MC to have fathered any of the 2019 girls.

Moreover, I think Jestur is actively trying to preclude that possibility, because the setup for MC to be Skylar's father was perfect--until Cindy showed up, about 15 minutes too early. Had MC and Luna been able to finish what they started, nothing more needs to be said, and the question of whether Skylar's his daughter can be left up to the player's (and the MC's, for that matter) imagination. But since they weren't able to continue, that now can't be the case. I still think that's the real reason for Luna's reaction on meeting MC in 2019, but I doubt we'll ever know.

It's probably September

...which is consistent with my understanding that MC's going back and forth by 20 years exactly. It can't be much earlier than September without getting into springtime, given that school is in session.

*Well, not as far as we know. As far as we know, he could travel later. As far as we know, he could travel by a different amount than 20 years. Both of these things seem plausible, because we've seen it happen with others (Darci, April, and Riley, at least, have traveled without MC, and somehow MC got with Dani earlier in her timeline than in his). But we assume those things without knowing them; they might be precluded by plot reasons we haven't yet seen. Or not, and they just not happen for other reasons.

 

[bonoboss]

Thank you developers, thank you F95ZONE, this is a great game, especially helpful for Chinese users.

 

[seebyone99]

this looks nice, wanna try it

 

[QwertySmurfy]

But with what we've seen so far, it isn't possible for MC to have fathered any of the 2019 girls.

The only reason why I thought of MC being the father as the possibility was because we haven't seen any husband/partner for any of the mothers in 2019 aside from Tiffany of course, we know and have seen the MCs father (kind of). I'd understand if only one of the mother's husbands just vanished one way or another (whether that was divorce or death), but all of them? I don't know.

 

[Discrepancy]

The only reason why I thought of MC being the father as the possibility was because we haven't seen any husband/partner for any of the mothers in 2019 aside from Tiffany of course, we know and have seen the MCs father (kind of). I'd understand if only one of the mother's husbands just vanished one way or another (whether that was divorce or death), but all of them? I don't know.

Probably to avoid the people that would scream NTR

 

[danb35]

we haven't seen any husband/partner for any of the mothers in 2019

It's a fair point. If MC isn't the father of any of them, Luna didn't waste any time at all (if we assume, as seems to be the case, that it's the same time of year in 1999 as in 2019, that gives her about two months to get pregnant, if Skylar's 19 at the beginning of the game), and Khloe and Scarlett didn't take much longer. That some of them would be dirtbags (like Tiffany's ex/Jessica's presumptive father) is entirely plausible, but all of them? As you say, it seems a little unlikely. Or was Scarlett's nostalgia for MC too much for her new man?

Edit: Skylar, fairly early on, says she knows her father, and that he's in prison. If we wanted to indulge the "MC is Skylar's father" fantasy (which I think is going to get a lot harder as we get back to 2019 and start spending time with 2019 Luna), we could easily assume that's a stepfather (perhaps even without her knowledge), but that's one at least accounted for.

 

[QwertySmurfy]

It's a fair point. If MC isn't the father of any of them, Luna didn't waste any time at all (if we assume, as seems to be the case, that it's the same time of year in 1999 as in 2019, that gives her about two months to get pregnant, if Skylar's 19 at the beginning of the game), and Khloe and Scarlett didn't take much longer. That some of them would be dirtbags (like Tiffany's ex/Jessica's presumptive father) is entirely plausible, but all of them? As you say, it seems a little unlikely. Or was Scarlett's nostalgia for MC too much for her new man?

Edit: Skylar, fairly early on, says she knows her father, and that he's in prison. If we wanted to indulge the "MC is Skylar's father" fantasy (which I think is going to get a lot harder as we get back to 2019 and start spending time with 2019 Luna), we could easily assume that's a stepfather (perhaps even without her knowledge), but that's one at least accounted for.

Also the fact that they found significant others a year after MC left? I don't know, there may still be more going back to the past for mc and it may fill in the blanks that are still left (like when we didn't know what was going on with Luna in 2019, but something did happen in 1999, MC had to go back to past to fill in those blanks, also that also lets us know that the events in the past actually happened and they were not a paradox as a result of MC going back to the past. Cause from our point of view MC just discovered time travel in 2019, unless there is a future MC who has the ability to go back even further). Also he has f'd some of them in the past and came inside, so who knows. We know Luna got someone considering she was forced to not engage with MC. But the others too? To them they knew he would be coming back and forth "between towns", but it would've been only a year he had left at that point (assuming they got pregnant a year after MC left), how would they've found significant others that quickly to take their mind off of MC?

 

[danb35]

Also the fact that they found significant others a year after MC left?

Of the three 2019 moms that MC had some relationship with in 1999, Luna was the most into him, and has the least amount of time--if she doesn't get pregnant within ~2 months (maybe 3 months, if Skylar were born prematurely?), Skylar isn't 19 at the beginning of the game. And, fine, if she just wants to get laid and doesn't care by whom, she's a beautiful woman and shouldn't have any trouble there. Maybe she feels deceived by MC and wants it out of some sense of revenge. I don't know, though; doesn't really seem like her character from what we've seen. She seemed pretty into MC, and for her to get over him, find someone else, and get pregnant with him, that quickly, doesn't sound quite right. Maybe it's, um, non-consensual? But unless MC comes back to 1999--which I want to happen for Jenny's sake, but I don't expect to happen*--Skylar's father has to be someone else, and it has to be soon.

Khloe and Scarlett have another year, and neither seem as in love with MC as does Luna (much less Jenny). Khloe, in particular, seems like a fuck buddy; Scarlett perhaps friends with benefits (though we see in 2019 that she's grown some feelings for MC). MC has (or could have) cum inside both of them, but unless they skip a year forward while pregnant with his kid, their kids are 19, not 18. But for them to have gotten pregnant by someone else within a year doesn't strike me as nearly as unlikely as Luna doing it within two months.

*A number of folks here have seen the party as "farewell to 1999." And if it was, at least it got a hell of a sendoff. We get a lot of time with pretty much all the 1999 girls (including at least a few side girls), lots of scenes (lewd and otherwise), Darci as a party animal (and the revolting Darci Dog), and the most tug-at-your-heartstrings slow dance with Jenny imaginable (yeah, I've fallen for Jenny). It's a party that won't soon be forgotten by any of its guests (even if Cindy hadn't shown up).

 

[QwertySmurfy]

*A number of folks here have seen the party as "farewell to 1999." And if it was, at least it got a hell of a sendoff. We get a lot of time with pretty much all the 1999 girls (including at least a few side girls), lots of scenes (lewd and otherwise), Darci as a party animal (and the revolting Darci Dog), and the most tug-at-your-heartstrings slow dance with Jenny imaginable (yeah, I've fallen for Jenny). It's a party that won't soon be forgotten by any of its guests (even if Cindy hadn't shown up).

What other year would he able to go? He could only go back 20 years maybe he could go to the 2000s and we actually get to see the aftermath of 1999 but it seemed the mothers haven't seen MC since 1999, so maybe MC does a mission covertly without interacting with them, but stills ends up seeing them from afar? I don't know if he's able to go to the future past 2019, but we do see a future Darci go back to 1999 (from even further than 2019, which'll be interesting to know how that will work), and I don't think the time travel thing will be dropped here.

 

[danb35]

He could only go back 20 years

...so far. You've already mentioned Ninja Darci--if everything's moving exactly in 20-year increments, I'd say she's from 2039, because she's definitely older than 2019 Darci. Or the "exactly 20 years" thing doesn't apply to everyone, or at all times. Because we also have the shit-ninja (whom everyone assumes to be Darci), who--if she is Darci--has to be a time traveler (since 2019 Darci is there when she shows up), but we have no idea from when. April has traveled forward enough to see Scarlett's kids. Riley has--well, who knows what the hell she's done. But she shows up in 1999 too. And then there's the old man who seems to have all the answers.

Thus far, as far as we've seen, MC's gone back and forward by exactly 20 years at a time. But I don't think there's any reason to assume it will stay this way. And the incident with Dani in the restroom indicates that she and MC got together somewhat earlier in her timeline than in his, pretty much requiring one of them to have time-traveled by a fairly short jump.

I don't think the time travel thing will be dropped here

I mean, we could just wrap things up in an update or two once MC returns to 2019. That doesn't require "dropping" the time travel, really, just we do whatever we're going to do there, then game over. But it feels like there's much more to go, and I agree that we're going to see more travel. But I'll be kind of surprised, albeit pleasantly, if it's back to 1999.

Also on the "not going back to 1999" question, remember the reason/excuse Jenny gives before her last scene? "What if we never see each other again?" I'm pretty sure that's what we call "foreshadowing."

 

[Meiri]

...so far. You've already mentioned Ninja Darci--if everything's moving exactly in 20-year increments, I'd say she's from 2039, because she's definitely older than 2019 Darci. Or the "exactly 20 years" thing doesn't apply to everyone, or at all times. Because we also have the shit-ninja (whom everyone assumes to be Darci), who--if she is Darci--has to be a time traveler (since 2019 Darci is there when she shows up), but we have no idea from when. April has traveled forward enough to see Scarlett's kids. Riley has--well, who knows what the hell she's done. But she shows up in 1999 too. And then there's the old man who seems to have all the answers.

Thus far, as far as we've seen, MC's gone back and forward by exactly 20 years at a time. But I don't think there's any reason to assume it will stay this way. And the incident with Dani in the restroom indicates that she and MC got together somewhat earlier in her timeline than in his, pretty much requiring one of them to have time-traveled by a fairly short jump.

I mean, we could just wrap things up in an update or two once MC returns to 2019. That doesn't require "dropping" the time travel, really, just we do whatever we're going to do there, then game over. But it feels like there's much more to go, and I agree that we're going to see more travel. But I'll be kind of surprised, albeit pleasantly, if it's back to 1999.

Maybe I am misremembering because it's been a while, but I don't think the new time travel they used last time had any interval limitation, it was just the one inside the abandoned plant that was fixed to only 1999.

Also, I assume you talk about the future Darci we met, I don't think she's from 2039 at least to me visually she appears to be around the same age maybe a few years older definitely not 20 years older than the current one.

 

[danb35]

I don't think the new time travel they used last time had any interval limitation,

I don't recall hearing/seeing that the machine is limited in that way, just that that's the only increment of time by which MC has traveled. So far.

future Darci we met, I don't think she's from 2039 at least to me visually she appears to be around the same age maybe a few years older definitely not 20 years older than the current one.

I don't think she looks 20 years older either, but I do think she looks notably older (not to mention harder, for lack of a better word--she's the one who killed the bad guy without hesitation) than 2019 Darci. And, of course, 2019 Darci is right there with you when you meet her, so unless someone has a Doppelmorpher (oops, wrong game), she has to be a time traveler. So from when? If it isn't from 2039, we're back to people traveling by something other than exactly 20 years at a time.

So back to Qwerty's question, if time travel isn't going away (and I doubt it is, unless the story ends unexpectedly early), and he doesn't go back to 1999, where/when does he go? Well, if we're sticking with the same basic cast, it can't really be before 1999 (both because most of them would be under 18, and because they would already know him when they meet him in 1999--but we've already seen that they don't). It probably isn't going to be after 2019, at least not by much--I just don't see much attraction in seeing the same girls, just older, unless you're going to get with their daughters. I'm making the assumption that it's the same basic cast, because it's already pretty big, and I really don't see Jestur wanting to create even more characters. So my guess would be to, or around, 2009, probably shortly before the accident. He probably doesn't see Scarlett (her nostalgia is of 1999, not of 2009) or Luna. He might see Khloe, maybe Valerie (though the closer to 2019 he messes around with Val, the harder it is to believe that she doesn't recognize him in 2019). Probably Jenny (I don't think that's just wishful thinking, though I'd sure like to see her again--and I don't think it's an undue amount of projection to think that MC has the strongest feelings for her among the 1999 LIs). But maybe he gets to know April?

 

[Discrepancy]

I don't recall hearing/seeing that the machine is limited in that way, just that that's the only increment of time by which MC has traveled. So far.

I don't think she looks 20 years older either, but I do think she looks notably older (not to mention harder, for lack of a better word--she's the one who killed the bad guy without hesitation) than 2019 Darci. And, of course, 2019 Darci is right there with you when you meet her, so unless someone has a Doppelmorpher (oops, wrong game), she has to be a time traveler. So from when? If it isn't from 2039, we're back to people traveling by something other than exactly 20 years at a time.

So back to Qwerty's question, if time travel isn't going away (and I doubt it is, unless the story ends unexpectedly early), and he doesn't go back to 1999, where/when does he go? Well, if we're sticking with the same basic cast, it can't really be before 1999 (both because most of them would be under 18, and because they would already know him when they meet him in 1999--but we've already seen that they don't). It probably isn't going to be after 2019, at least not by much--I just don't see much attraction in seeing the same girls, just older, unless you're going to get with their daughters. I'm making the assumption that it's the same basic cast, because it's already pretty big, and I really don't see Jestur wanting to create even more characters. So my guess would be to, or around, 2009, probably shortly before the accident. He probably doesn't see Scarlett (her nostalgia is of 1999, not of 2009) or Luna. He might see Khloe, maybe Valerie (though the closer to 2019 he messes around with Val, the harder it is to believe that she doesn't recognize him in 2019). Probably Jenny (I don't think that's just wishful thinking, though I'd sure like to see her again--and I don't think it's an undue amount of projection to think that MC has the strongest feelings for her among the 1999 LIs). But maybe he gets to know April?

Shit Ninja/Darci can also be from a parallel world/universe/timeline, dunno if Jestur is going to use that concept, but "Dark" had it and Jestur said he's highly inspired by that show so could be that.

 

[wookie ookie]

this looks nice, wanna try it

Well give it a try and then come back and tell us what you think.
Welcome to the thread and F95 enjoy yourself and have fun.

 

[QwertySmurfy]

I don't recall hearing/seeing that the machine is limited in that way, just that that's the only increment of time by which MC has traveled. So far.

I don't think she looks 20 years older either, but I do think she looks notably older (not to mention harder, for lack of a better word--she's the one who killed the bad guy without hesitation) than 2019 Darci. And, of course, 2019 Darci is right there with you when you meet her, so unless someone has a Doppelmorpher (oops, wrong game), she has to be a time traveler. So from when? If it isn't from 2039, we're back to people traveling by something other than exactly 20 years at a time.

So back to Qwerty's question, if time travel isn't going away (and I doubt it is, unless the story ends unexpectedly early), and he doesn't go back to 1999, where/when does he go? Well, if we're sticking with the same basic cast, it can't really be before 1999 (both because most of them would be under 18, and because they would already know him when they meet him in 1999--but we've already seen that they don't). It probably isn't going to be after 2019, at least not by much--I just don't see much attraction in seeing the same girls, just older, unless you're going to get with their daughters. I'm making the assumption that it's the same basic cast, because it's already pretty big, and I really don't see Jestur wanting to create even more characters. So my guess would be to, or around, 2009, probably shortly before the accident. He probably doesn't see Scarlett (her nostalgia is of 1999, not of 2009) or Luna. He might see Khloe, maybe Valerie (though the closer to 2019 he messes around with Val, the harder it is to believe that she doesn't recognize him in 2019). Probably Jenny (I don't think that's just wishful thinking, though I'd sure like to see her again--and I don't think it's an undue amount of projection to think that MC has the strongest feelings for her among the 1999 LIs). But maybe he gets to know April?

Damn now you made me think, I'm wondering if we do go into the future, will the 2019 girls be with different partners in the future that future Darci came from? We know this isn't a harem, so we know MC won't end up with all of them. It'd honestly be painful to see one of the girls you like from the 2019 bunch be with someone else in the future, but if the future is gonna be dark I wouldn't be surprised if something like that happens.

 

[SlavicBrah]

So i assume the hooded guy that is in charge of time traveling is MC's dad cuz i am pretty sure he is the one who was in charge of that project at the plant?