VN Ren'Py Ripples [v0.8.0 Public] [Jestur]

[danb35]

the patch just fits. The story hits better with Tiffany and Jenny, ESPECIALLY Jenny.

I can't speak to the story overall, but I thought the writing of the patch brought it down in the last update, especially during the last scene with Jenny--"knowing we're related just makes it hotter" just didn't fit her character, at least for me.

 

[pitao]

It's a fan mod, if you want the official experience you play without mods, this is real for any game, AVN or not.

LightmanP made since last update 2 versions of the mod, one without and another with the I-patch (and that is the only way I know of right now to have incest in this game), they simply installed the wrong mod version, they should have got the new vanilla mod version, before this update there was only the I-patch version included.

They still can play the "official" experience in regards of incest with a walkthrough lol

I can't speak to the story overall, but I thought the writing of the patch brought it down in the last update, especially during the last scene with Jenny--"knowing we're related just makes it hotter" just didn't fit her character, at least for me.

Yep it was not good in that scene, for what I know the current I-patch it is done by the modder themselves and it was fineish until this last update. Until IIRC v.0.5.0 there was a link in the OP for the patch but after that only was included in the multimod (that always had it included since I started playing Ripples). No idea if they were different writers or not. Gladly they started making a version of the multimod without the patch .

 

[Xythurr]

I can't speak to the story overall, but I thought the writing of the patch brought it down in the last update, especially during the last scene with Jenny--"knowing we're related just makes it hotter" just didn't fit her character, at least for me.

We are talking about the super perverted nerd that plays early adult games and if she was real would likely be a fellow degenerate on this forum right?

 

[Discrepancy]

They still can play the "official" experience in regards of incest with a walkthrough lol

Yeah, bad choices of words on my part, nothing against the use of mods, but a mod is there to "modify" the game, nothing wrong with that but if it alters the dev intent, even a walkthrough goes against it, because if there's choices then the dev intent is for you to make one yourself.
And again don't take me wrong I'm not saying people should not use mods, just saying if they alter the original intent you shouldn't take that as the official way to play

 

[danb35]

nerd that plays early adult games

That's a good point, and I'd forgotten it. My gut still says it doesn't feel right, but that isn't part of my mental picture of Jenny.

 

[Liliya99]

I personally don't think Tiffany and Jessica's reactions to the MC and sex related issues make sense without an incest angle. I just wish Karens complaining didn't interfere in dev's original intents on these things so we didn't have to keep dealing with this landlady/dad's totally platonic friend who took me in after he kicked the bucket" stuff.

 

[maxthruster]

I personally don't think Tiffany and Jessica's reactions to the MC and sex related issues make sense without an incest angle. I just wish Karens complaining didn't interfere in dev's original intents on these things so we didn't have to keep dealing with this landlady/dad's totally platonic friend who took me in after he kicked the bucket" stuff.

Tiffany's reaction, at the very least, does make sense regardless of familial connection. She's almost two decades older than him and he's her dependent. There's a significant power imbalance between them, which would cause unease in many people.

 

[jvbatman]

I personally don't think Tiffany and Jessica's reactions to the MC and sex related issues make sense without an incest angle. I just wish Karens complaining didn't interfere in dev's original intents on these things so we didn't have to keep dealing with this landlady/dad's totally platonic friend who took me in after he kicked the bucket" stuff.

There is nothing more taboo than having a relationship with your landlord and roommate.

 

[Chazwolfe]

This is one of those games where I actually don't even care that much about the "spicy" content because I've gotten so invested in the actual story. I've found myself speeding through a couple of the sex scenes because I just want to get the story again. Not every scene, just sometimes.

 

[ClockworkGnome]

but a mod is there to "modify" the game, nothing wrong with that but if it alters the dev intent, even a walkthrough goes against it, because if there's choices then the dev intent is for you to make one yourself.
And again don't take me wrong I'm not saying people should not use mods, just saying if they alter the original intent you shouldn't take that as the official way to play

The real problem there is whether or not you believe the game as presented is the dev's actual original intent, or if you believe it has already been altered due to censorship laws.

If a mod is simply restoring something that has already been forcibly changed against a dev's will and original intent, there's easily an argument that the modded experience is the official way to play... even if the dev cannot actually admit that, for fear of the Patreon Gestapo coming for them in the night.

Generally speaking, whenever you're dealing with a game with a young adult male lead character living with a "landlady" and their "roommates", the original intent is very, very clear.

 

[Meiri]

The real problem there is whether or not you believe the game as presented is the dev's actual original intent, or if you believe it has already been altered due to censorship laws.

If a mod is simply restoring something that has already been forcibly changed against a dev's will and original intent, there's easily an argument that the modded experience is the official way to play... even if the dev cannot actually admit that, for fear of the Patreon Gestapo coming for them in the night.

Generally speaking, whenever you're dealing with a game with a young adult male lead character living with a "landlady" and their "roommates", the original intent is very, very clear.

Maybe it was the original intention, but nowadays it just doesn't make sense anymore even with an incest patch they will be forced at some point to alter a lot of conversations just to fit Jessica and Tiffany and even then they don't seem to miss your father the same way you do.

People are free to mod their games the way they want to, don't get me wrong, but the story has evolved a lot from what it was to even consider this the official way to play anymore.

 

[pitao]

Yeah, bad choices of words on my part, nothing against the use of mods, but a mod is there to "modify" the game, nothing wrong with that but if it alters the dev intent, even a walkthrough goes against it, because if there's choices then the dev intent is for you to make one yourself.
And again don't take me wrong I'm not saying people should not use mods, just saying if they alter the original intent you shouldn't take that as the official way to play

No worries I got what you meant to say because already "know" you on this site and specially on this Ripples thread but yeah for whom don't would think that you have some annoyance with the use of the mods . And yeah using mods is never the intentional way that the developers want users to play it. But I get annoyed with developers that are bitter with mods and mod users, I understand they get reports of people using mods and most the times isn't the original code fault and is a mod that caused it.

Like DPC, it is simply stupid to put traps on the code for the modders and mod users, it just took a few hours longer for the modders bypass it anyway. Got really disappointed with that dev after they did that. Mods and mod users will always exist, there is no point to behave like DPC did. They gain more collaborating and exchanging ideas with modders because there are some that are really good and can help devs with the code and their faults, and a few devs/games already incorporated the mods into their games, that is the way to go as long the mod features are the least intrusive possible and have on/off switches of course. Those games get much better gameplay and UI most of the times.

I use mods at first to save me time specially in games that require more than 1 playthrough to see most content and that isn't the case with Ripples except that Skylar/Jessica choice, then with time using them I got really curious about the coding of the mods specially the modders that make more than just doing a walkthrough/guide, those who improve the original UI but Ripples doesn't need that because Jestur made a very nice UI, much better than the first day I played the game. Then some mods also add little things I enjoy like textbox opacity when the devs are lazy to do them lol and other little things that improve the experience.

I rarely cheat variables on games except when I get annoyed that I have to load an ancient save choice and have to repeat most of the game just because of a variable and a few author mods (with variables/stats cheats) and specially URM help with that. In resume, I'm a control freak . Even if I don't use most cheat features I also prefer to know I can edit/control them.

Even though I'm awful at coding, I had introduction to programming 30 years ago in Uni and got a bit trauma with it, even though coding was much harder back then. And I had Pascal that wasn't even the hardest, older languages were much worse. I remember when I was a kid seeing my older uncle using Cobol language and that seemed complicated.

But I enjoy reading the code and understanding it but write nah not for me. That was why I started using URM, I enjoy understanding what is under the hood without open rpy and rpa files and read/edit all those walls of coding text hehe.

 

[Discrepancy]

Generally speaking, whenever you're dealing with a game with a young adult male lead character living with a "landlady" and their "roommates", the original intent is very, very clear.

Yes I agree, but this game don't have that, dunno if you ever played without the patch, but this game had work put on it and for me it was done very well, some might disagree and that's ok. Tiffany isn't referred as landlady ever.
Yes the original intent seemed to be to have incest, I played the original version back then for a bit but can't remember if it had incest without a patch or not but I believe it was without a patch.
But now the official way is to not have incest, stuff like some girls or all being the Mc daughters or Mc being his own father that was probable to be the original idea won't happen even with a patch (unless the modder goes crazy and do a lot of rework besides simple text changes).
You and everyone else are free to enjoy the game with incest, I did till the last update, and there's nothing wrong with it, but that's not the intended way the game is being written today, just that.

 

[ShiroGato]

Generally speaking, whenever you're dealing with a game with a young adult male lead character living with a "landlady" and their "roommates", the original intent is very, very clear.

Landlady and their tenants is the norm.

Need some brave dev to subvert this trope with the landlord being alive.

 

[Mark Loring]

Yes I agree, but this game don't have that, dunno if you ever played without the patch, but this game had work put on it and for me it was done very well, some might disagree and that's ok. Tiffany isn't referred as landlady ever.
Yes the original intent seemed to be to have incest, I played the original version back then for a bit but can't remember if it had incest without a patch or not but I believe it was without a patch.
But now the official way is to not have incest, stuff like some girls or all being the Mc daughters or Mc being his own father that was probable to be the original idea won't happen even with a patch (unless the modder goes crazy and do a lot of rework besides simple text changes).
You and everyone else are free to enjoy the game with incest, I did till the last update, and there's nothing wrong with it, but that's not the intended way the game is being written today, just that.

When I first got this game (and even subbed to Jestur on Patreon a couple of years ago) I started out without the patch, but I always felt something bugging me in the back of my mind thinking the vanilla way hid the to me, very obvious meaning of what I thought was really going on with this game, meaning the I-patch.

Now I don't know if it was because of my own way of thinking, because I was so used to incest games at that point I felt this game was really meant to have that. I went through the game a few times before I decided to use said patch. I'm like, alright, now THAT makes sense.

I'm not going to sit here and say it felt creepy or cringey with the Jenny scene at the end of .8, but my mind is more than thoroughly brainwashed at this point to NOT use any unofficial or fan made I-patches, since I've must've played at least two dozen "incest-patched" or pure incest games at this point in my life. It's become a part of my own VN lore these days. *shrug*

 

[Xythurr]

When I first got this game (and even subbed to Jestur on Patreon a couple of years ago) I started out without the patch, but I always felt something bugging me in the back of my mind thinking the vanilla way hid the to me, very obvious meaning of what I thought was really going on with this game, meaning the I-patch.

Now I don't know if it was because of my own way of thinking, because I was so used to incest games at that point I felt this game was really meant to have that. I went through the game a few times before I decided to use said patch. I'm like, alright, now THAT makes sense.

I'm not going to sit here and say it felt creepy or cringey with the Jenny scene at the end of .8, but my mind is more than thoroughly brainwashed at this point to NOT use any unofficial or fan made I-patches, since I've must've played at least two dozen "incest-patched" or pure incest games at this point in my life. It's become a part of my own VN lore these days. *shrug*

I'm not sure the CIA could've gotten all that outta me but I feel you? It's such a shame that all this censorship is going on in the first place.
I lived the through the "satanic panic" of the 90s where my aunt informed me that my power rangers were of the devil. So were the ninja turtles etc.
We finally made it past much of the religious rights censorious behavior only for the same feminist movement that will cheer sex workers on as empowering to decry the evil male gaze in entertainment.
All the while violence is A-Ok but tiddies are bad. I'm fed up with all the retards on every end of the spectrum. We should be past censorship at this point. Strangers shouldn't be able to dicate what other adults do in their own homes FFS. /endrant

 

[Discrepancy]

I'm not sure the CIA could've gotten all that outta me but I feel you? It's such a shame that all this censorship is going on in the first place.
I lived the through the "satanic panic" of the 90s where my aunt informed me that my power rangers were of the devil. So were the ninja turtles etc.
We finally made it past much of the religious rights censorious behavior only for the same feminist movement that will cheer sex workers on as empowering to decry the evil male gaze in entertainment.
All the while violence is A-Ok but tiddies are bad. I'm fed up with all the retards on every end of the spectrum. We should be past censorship at this point. Strangers shouldn't be able to dicate what other adults do in their own homes FFS. /endrant

It's fascinating to me, that are people that actively looking for things to be offended.
Incest games on patreon is such a niche harmless thing, why and how this witch hunt even started? contrary to what some people think it wasn't patreon per se, it was VISA/mastercard that received complaints from some "groups" and forced patreon hand.
How in the world there aren't real world more important things happening for this people to get annoyed/complain is beyond my understanding.

 

[galora]

It's fascinating to me, that are people that actively looking for things to be offended.
Incest games on patreon is such a niche harmless thing, why and how this witch hunt even started? contrary to what some people think it wasn't patreon per se, it was VISA/mastercard that received complaints from some "groups" and forced patreon hand.
How in the world there aren't real world more important things happening for this people to get annoyed/complain is beyond my understanding.

I will not argue with your point for even a second, you are right. But there a so many real world problems where people (fucking awful reddit debate I had) will point out something "worse" as an excuse not to worry about another real problem.
You should always be allowed to point out or complain about less important stuff. And when the less important stuff turns out to matter to your business or personal life, even if unimportant in the grand scheme of life and the world, you should be taking care of the problem.

Now just for funnsies : most of the incest trope is based on the taboo, sometimes illegalness, of boinking family members. Maybe Patreons anti incest crusade makes it all the more enticing?

Srly, the choice for devs isn't easy. Either writing their stories to be incestless all the while bending the story to still allow for an incest mod. Or just saying fuck it, I'll make it a story that can stand on its own without needing to make sure that the landlady doesn't ask for rent.

My tendency in those constrains would be to adapt, and not desperately try make the lil sibling look like an "freshly turned 18 yo" all the while making them act as if they doesn't know sex exists. Or even worse the otherway around.

 

[duckydoodoo]

Scarlett looks gorgeous as ever but goddamn, MC's haircut is RIDICULOUS. Dude look like a coconut tree. That is NOT how you do a fade haircut.
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i legit had a similar hair cut in the early 90s. hated. i also had a mullet in the 80s. id say dont knock it, but the hair cuts ive seen at the local high school over the last few years have been horrendous and i made sure to give my opinion loudly and unsolicited.

 

[Discrepancy]

I will not argue with your point for even a second, you are right. But there a so many real world problems where people (fucking awful reddit debate I had) will point out something "worse" as an excuse not to worry about another real problem.
You should always be allowed to point out or complain about less important stuff. And when the less important stuff turns out to matter to your business or personal life, even if unimportant in the grand scheme of life and the world, you should be taking care of the problem.

Now just for funnsies : most of the incest trope is based on the taboo, sometimes illegalness, of boinking family members. Maybe Patreons anti incest crusade makes it all the more enticing?

Srly, the choice for devs isn't easy. Either writing their stories to be incestless all the while bending the story to still allow for an incest mod. Or just saying fuck it, I'll make it a story that can stand on its own without needing to make sure that the landlady doesn't ask for rent.

My tendency in those constrains would be to adapt, and not desperately try make the lil sibling look like an "freshly turned 18 yo" all the while making them act as if they doesn't know sex exists. Or even worse the otherway around.

Sure, didn't want to discredit the freedom for people to complain for whatever they deem worthy, I just think incest games is a silly thing to argue against, and I say this as someone who couldn't care less for the kink, I never will play a game for having incest or for not having it, just do nothing for me. I still don't want it taken away, I hate the correlation that some people do for liking a kink and wanting to do it irl.
I mean I played some games with incest and that didn't make me suddenly want to fuck my mom and this goes for a lot of other kinks, I like some kinks in games that I wouldn't even have interest in trying irl.
I know you weren't saying what I vented about here, sorry for hijacking you comment