VN Ren'Py Rise or Fall [v0.0.2] [Kzero91]

[mnemosynememory]

For a lesbian, she has 0 female LIs right now (trans women is a trans, so that's out) and at least 2 males, not to mention there was more tension between her and her male friend or even the school bullies than Mia ... I wanted to like the game, but it has a ton of inconsistencies, and the developer clearly is treating her alleged sexuality as a fetish only

 

[Gaslight77]

For a lesbian, she has 0 female LIs right now (trans women is a trans, so that's out) and at least 2 males, not to mention there was more tension between her and her male friend or even the school bullies than Mia ... I wanted to like the game, but it has a ton of inconsistencies, and the developer clearly is treating her alleged sexuality as a fetish only

How to spot a highly stupid, ignorant and dumb person in 1 step.

 

[Gaslight77]

How to spot a highly stupid, ignorant and dumb person in 1 step.

Tell Avaron1974 if Alex, a trans girl, really isn't female and Jessy not is a lesbian, because she fucked her, you ignorant idiot. (And everybody knows the meaning you used for the word.)

 

[yunosykk]

Finally had time to play the new update and loved it.

Only problem I have is, I wanted to play the lesbian route but felt bad for ignoring poor Jake , so I restarted the game and chose the bi route. But now i got forced into a relationship with Viktor. I mean he is a nice guy but I wish we can have the option to say no to him.

Is it possible to have an option to choose only Jake(and avoid Viktor) as the male LI in the future updates?

 

[Kzero91]

For a lesbian, she has 0 female LIs right now (trans women is a trans, so that's out) and at least 2 males, not to mention there was more tension between her and her male friend or even the school bullies than Mia ...

I just write the story as I think it's right/senseful, and it doesn't necessarily have to be well balanced in terms of straight, lesbian and trans content.
From just the characters seen so far, the Li's are/will be, 2 males, 1 trans, and 6 females all in their own time, and not just squeezed in somewhere in between just for the sake of balancing.

As for Mia, of course I could have done more than I did, but I just didn't think it was realistic for a married woman with a son to make out or jump into bed with a female neighbor who's 20 years younger for no apparent reason, even if Jessy had flirted hard with her or made the first move, that will take time...

and the developer clearly is treating her alleged sexuality as a fetish only

I don't just see it as a fetish because then I wouldn't have done the dream scene at school where Jessy was first spanked by the teacher and then licked and where she would rather not have been woken up, as well as the scene with Candy where Jessy licked her pussy and I didn't give you a choice whether you wanted to or not(Well, there will be a choice in the next update). Besides, Jessy often can't think of anything else but licking pussy.

 

[Kzero91]

Is it possible to have an option to choose only Jake(and avoid Viktor) as the male LI in the future updates?

Yes in the next update it will be changed and you can say no to Viktor and leave him out of the bi path and just choose Jake if you want.

 

[yunosykk]

Yes in the next update it will be changed and you can say no to Viktor and leave him out of the bi path and just choose Jake if you want.

Yay, thank you so much

 

[Cabin]

I just write the story as I think it's right/senseful, and it doesn't necessarily have to be well balanced in terms of straight, lesbian and trans content.
From just the characters seen so far, the Li's are/will be, 2 males, 1 trans, and 6 females all in their own time, and not just squeezed in somewhere in between just for the sake of balancing.

As for Mia, of course I could have done more than I did, but I just didn't think it was realistic for a married woman with a son to make out or jump into bed with a female neighbor who's 20 years younger for no apparent reason, even if Jessy had flirted hard with her or made the first move, that will take time...


I don't just see it as a fetish because then I wouldn't have done the dream scene at school where Jessy was first spanked by the teacher and then licked and where she would rather not have been woken up, as well as the scene with Candy where Jessy licked her pussy and I didn't give you a choice whether you wanted to or not(Well, there will be a choice in the next update). Besides, Jessy often can't think of anything else but licking pussy.

are jake and viktor the only 2 male lis ??

 

[Kzero91]

are jake and viktor the only 2 male lis ??

At the moment yes, some will be added later.

 

[PickerLewd]

I started another game to see how the story would play out in other route, and I didn't remember the part where the Uncle asks Jessy for ten million .

Is he supposed to have spent that money on keeping her alive, or is it all a lie? That amount is unpayable .

 

[damnedfrog]

I started another game to see how the story would play out in other route, and I didn't remember the part where the Uncle asks Jessy for ten million .

Is he supposed to have spent that money on keeping her alive, or is it all a lie? That amount is unpayable .

No, it's the money he didn't make because of Jessy. By beating the son of the man he wanted to make a deal with, Jessy prevent the deal to happen. Deal from what he expected to make 10 millions.
So he consider that now she owns him these 10 millions.

He knows she will probably never be able to make that amount.
That not the point.
The point is that now she is in debt with him for the rest of her live, having to do whatever he wants.
And she has to find 10k a week. It's 520k a year! Good investment...

You could find it's not fair, illogical, ... it's because you aren't a mafia boss.
But he is...
And it's how it works in the mafia.

And if by the greatest chance Jessy manage to make that amount of money, great! he win 10 millions

 

[PickerLewd]

The point is that now she is in debt with him for the rest of her live, having to do whatever he wants.
And she has to find 10k a week. It's 520k a year! Good investment...

Fuck the Uncle, he's a traitor who thinks he can take the money with him to the grave.

Jessy should try forming an alliance with a rival mafia family .

I appreciate the explanation .

 

[Alley_Cat]

Which is a grammatical error. It should be 10 million, not millions.

 

[PickerLewd]

Which is a grammatical error. It should be 10 million, not millions.

Back in the old MU Online days, we used to write "10 KK", we didn't even know what the word "million" meant !

 

[damnedfrog]

Which is a grammatical error. It should be 10 million, not millions.

I'm not an native English speaker, I didn't know million will not get the plural 's' when there is more than 1...

 

[Alley_Cat]

I'm not an native English speaker, I didn't know million will not get the plural 's' when there is more than 1...

It's complicated. You can have 10 million dollars, or millions of dollars, but not 10 millions of dollars. Strictly speaking

 

[Kzero91]

I'm not an native English speaker, I didn't know million will not get the plural 's' when there is more than 1...

I wasn't sure either, but thought it sounded better somehow, so it will be right

 

[damnedfrog]

Fuck the Uncle, he's a traitor who thinks he can take the money with him to the grave.

Jessy should try forming an alliance with a rival mafia family .

I appreciate the explanation .

Fuck the uncle, but he's not a traitor, he's a mafia boss.
In fact, if Jessy hasn't be a relative of him, she probably would have ended up with a bullet in the head, or at the bottom of a lake with some nice shoes made of concrete...
Everybody else would have be dead by now.

As for allying herself with a rival mafia family, she should be sure they will win.
Because she will be the traitor, and if she loose, her family ties wouldn't save her.
Her fate will probably be even worse as she will have betrayal the family. She will probably have a very painful death.
And if her allies win the war, what guarantee is there that she won't be eliminated as soon as they decide they no longer need her?
Because, she will have betrayed her own family. Her fidelity will be questionable, she will be therefore unreliable. They will never trust her.
So they might as well get rid of her before she betrays them too...

Welcome in the mafia.

 

[mnemosynememory]

I just write the story as I think it's right/senseful, and it doesn't necessarily have to be well balanced in terms of straight, lesbian and trans content.
From just the characters seen so far, the Li's are/will be, 2 males, 1 trans, and 6 females all in their own time, and not just squeezed in somewhere in between just for the sake of balancing.

As for Mia, of course I could have done more than I did, but I just didn't think it was realistic for a married woman with a son to make out or jump into bed with a female neighbor who's 20 years younger for no apparent reason, even if Jessy had flirted hard with her or made the first move, that will take time...

I don't just see it as a fetish because then I wouldn't have done the dream scene at school where Jessy was first spanked by the teacher and then licked and where she would rather not have been woken up, as well as the scene with Candy where Jessy licked her pussy and I didn't give you a choice whether you wanted to or not(Well, there will be a choice in the next update). Besides, Jessy often can't think of anything else but licking pussy.

And you keep writing what you like, never said you should stop, my nitpicking/feedback is the character inconsistency, the delivery of her opening up to heterosexuality its completely lost if the first thought crossing her mind is sucking off her long-time friend, which we've just being introduced to, in the open, that's not a mindset of someone who's into woman, it is a hussy ... and I want make this very clear, I don't mind she being straight, nor I'm asking for a lesbian route or 4783 romanceable female LIs, you do what you want, but no lesbian open up to the heterosexuality possibility out of nowhere, she's not a lesbian, and at this point in the game, she's bi-curious because, as far as player's intervention goes, she just fantasize about woman.

The Mia character was a typo (I have no idea if the game has a Mia to be honest), I mean the girl she did the yoga, I don't know her name at the top of my head, Melanie I wanna say? Sorry, I'm really not too fond of the game to be digging that up now.

Good luck with your game, I wish I could say I look forward to the next update, but that would be a lie, the writing it's actually good, and I like the dialogue, but the character inconsistency really gets me, and I'm a sucker for that.

 

[PickerLewd]

I've finished the update and I'm commenting here because I'm going to upload some images and I can't do it on Patreon.

Overall, I enjoyed it, and there were some unexpected surprises .

Here is the list of typos I found:

Spoiler: Typos

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Nobody should be woken up at that time :


I had the same expression on my face in the previous version when Alex's secret was revealed :


Finally, is the hair in Daz3D like a wig?
I don't know how it works, but it doesn't appear to be subject to the laws of gravity :