Mod Ren'Py Abandoned Rogue-like: Evolution - Expanded Mod

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Pr0man

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You will not hear of a mod update for a little while still!
I'm more or less certain we won't be hearing anything regarding an update for a long while still, given that Oni decided to change so many things that old errors (variables being either non-existent or not called properly - especially the pool and multiple girls in class cause error messages left right n center) pop out like happy little radishes to populate this game once again.

Honestly, I'm not envyous of your position as it stands: On the one hand I'm thrilled to hear that you guys now do code reviews to help Oni along with his mess, but on the other hand I kind of feel that effort is eventually going to be wasted, as he'll change more things around with the next full release regardless and thus keeping the cycle on repeat. I sure hope it doesn't come to this.

Up until reading your post I was somewhat under the impression that Oni decided to only pay lip service to the community surrounding this game by saying he'll gladly accept any coding advice/help but setting the bar for entry so high that nobody would reach the standards set by him and thus, him never getting help. So at the very least I can dream of faster bugfixing with you guys watching over his shoulder because it seems that at this point the modding community has a better understanding on programming than he himself has.
 
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Pervy Rogue

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I'm more or less certain we won't be hearing anything regarding an update for a long while still, given that Oni decided to change so many things that old errors (variables being either non-existent or not called properly - especially the pool and multiple girls in class cause error messages left right n center) pop out like happy little radishes to populate this game once again.

Honestly, I'm not envyous of your position as it stands: On the one hand I'm thrilled to hear that you guys now do code reviews to help Oni along with his mess, but on the other hand I kind of feel that effort is eventually going to be wasted, as he'll change more things around with the next full release regardless and thus keeping the cycle on repeat. I sure hope it doesn't come to this.

Up until reading your post I was somewhat under the impression that Oni decided to only pay lip service to the community surrounding this game by saying he'll gladly accept any coding advice/help but setting the bar for entry so high that nobody would reach the standards set by him and thus, him never getting help. So at the very least I can dream of faster bugfixing with you guys watching over his shoulder because it seems that at this point the modding community has a better understanding on programming than he himself has.
Its not a close working relationship but, its something. We have no voice on the development of the game and we don't get to see whats coming out early; we do get the opportunity to help solve problems here and there. Oni has at least been willing to look at suggestions about ways to streamline portions of code to make things like displaying images faster.
 

Nightwings

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And yes, I hear y'all. I do not check over here like I should.

MK78 May soon be back around to help out with that. Shad0wk1ng09 checks in occasionally and is responsible for the art I have been posting.

For now, Perviously on Expanded:

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So this is why you shouldn't wast your time and talent on "navigating thousands lines of code" but creating your own and add new content like you did with clothes, bdsm stuff, new animations etc. And "updating" your mod with Oni's original only when there is really something new, like... I don't know... when Jean will be added for exemple. If "you" don't add her before...
 

Pr0man

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Its not a close working relationship but, its something. We have no voice on the development of the game and we don't get to see whats coming out early; we do get the opportunity to help solve problems here and there. Oni has at least been willing to look at suggestions about ways to streamline portions of code to make things like displaying images faster.
Given that the game runs like ass from time to time (when it works properly), that would already be an improvement well perceived.
Honestly, at this point it's just nice to know that some people that know how to handle actual programming and that can follow basic object-oriented programming standards help along. Given Oni more or less copy-pasted old character entries in order to create the baseline for new girls while changing the variables and worked/branched out from there, it must be a nightmare to navigate, let alone untangle the chaos.

I wouldn't have expected any close working relationship at any point - as in the earlier stages of the game (Back when Kitty was still not fully implemented) - Oni more or less refused to accept any kind of help to speed things up. What looks like a smalltime step now for an onlooker is actually a huge jump for future development (if he doesn't throw those plans overboard) and I'm more than just glad to see it happen, given that you guys managed to set up a big mod that more or less towers the basegame, even when it still received updates and you had to work on refactoring to port to the next version.
 

Pervy Rogue

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So this is why you shouldn't wast your time and talent on "navigating thousands lines of code" but creating your own and add new content like you did with clothes, bdsm stuff, new animations etc. And "updating" your mod with Oni's original only when there is really something new, like... I don't know... when Jean will be added for exemple. If "you" don't add her before...
Im a coder, not an artist. If I had a good team of art monkeys, I could do just that.
 

Nightwings

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Im a coder, not an artist. If I had a good team of art monkeys, I could do just that.
Well all the Moders here I meant. Stuff we find here like Mystique, her anims, new clothes etc. are comming from this Moders community right? Whatever they are Coders like you or Artists. (y)
 

Ironrifle

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do anyone have a save with high obidiance and low love for all girls? I havent played this game in a while and it looks like my old saves dont work. Thx in advance
 

Pervy Rogue

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So there’s no mystique content in the mod right now?
Nope. There really hasn't been for 2 versions. Mystique was based on Rogue's body and a piece of code that wasn't working with the newer versions. So she had to be taken out for now and is getting her own art.
 

BoromidHUN

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I am back after a long time, and there were a senario where u could freely have sex with Emma on public without any consequences.
OR jast have sex with her with consequences.
But now if I try anything she says that she will not do it...
Can I do anything to have her on public?
Or it is locked?
I have max inhibition, obedience and love.
Thanks for your attention. I’m looking forward to your reply.
 

GottaLust

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I downloaded it and I'm already being spammed with nude photos on the phone. I can't move without getting them texts
 

Pr0man

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Okay - time to adress some stuffs here.

I am back after a long time, and there were a senario where u could freely have sex with Emma on public without any consequences.
OR jast have sex with her with consequences.
But now if I try anything she says that she will not do it...
Can I do anything to have her on public?
Over the many different iterations, Emma changed quite a bit. From being somewhat open, to being more open to you when it's in a private setting etc. etc. to where she is now. I haven't played around with her that much throughout all the different versions, but I remember there now being checks in place to do things in public. You'll have to ask her out on a date, which prompts her to remind you that this is a delicate manner for her, but if you convince her, you'll basically be able to do more public things. Same logic applies to threesomes as well, as she'll be quite uncomfortable to do that.
This is basically how it works in the current unmodded version of the game and how it should work in the modded version as well.

has it really been almost six months since the last update?
Yup.
But that is due to the fact that the base game is horribly designed from a programming standpoint. couple answers back, Pervy Rogue went out of his way to let people in this thread know that the mod team is now working with Oni to get the game up to standard. This means they'll do code reviews, give out pointers and fling ideas to improve the codebase to get the game to some reasonable basis that at the very least resembles OOP-based code.

This is important shit.

The base game got by (when it didn't spontaneously combust) by being a somewhat copy-pasted mess of already existing code being changed with a whole lot of conditional statements thrown in. But trying to add a big mod that not only adds locations, actions tied to locations and more to all of it, it becomes a chore at best, a nightmare at worst. Given how much Oni has to change the code across multiple files whenever there is a new major update, the mod basically needs to be rewritten from scratch - either partially, or in its entirety.
With the current update (0.990), this will change - to what degree I'm not entirely sure, but getting the game up to speed is no small task and it had to be done at some point anyways. The game gotten too big for its boots and is now at the point of buckling under its own weight. Once the code is streamlined, the mod will profit heavily from it, as doing actual "porting" work will be way easier, to the point of doing smalltime updates instead of doing rewrites on half the mod.

I downloaded it and I'm already being spammed with nude photos on the phone. I can't move without getting them texts
That you can deactivate by talking to each individual girl and telling them to stop sending you pictures on the phone. Just look through the different menus when talking to them. It should be under their customization options.
 
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