RPGM Completed Roundscape Adorevia [v6.8 Steam] [Arvus Games]

[RandomRalts]

I'm going g to give this a try, but I liked the old art style better

 

[croPath]

Is 6.1 the final final version, or is the dev still working on bug fixes?

lol "fixes" he just breaks more things

 

[Xenrir]

Well, Mayla route seems to be obvious (although I haven't tried it yet) - imprison her. A new scene they teased with her have her jailcell as background, with bookshelf she would ask you to install. So its most certainly triggers sometime after you put her there.

Good point, I hadn't even noticed that. That does indeed make finding the Mayla route pretty obvious. The Outlander/Emek's Rest route is a right bitch to pin down the start of, on the other hand. Of course, it doesn't help that I'm the epitome of a smoothbrain and there's a very real chance I'm missing something obvious.

 

[GrandPaBrowning]

Good point, I hadn't even noticed that. That does indeed make finding the Mayla route pretty obvious. The Outlander/Emek's Rest route is a right bitch to pin down the start of, on the other hand. Of course, it doesn't help that I'm the epitome of a smoothbrain and there's a very real chance I'm missing something obvious.

Well, I haven't play Emek's Rest so I can't make a specific advice here. Well, except being a nice little roomba and clean out every nook and cranny, but that's like a go-to every time you feel stuck.

 

[CyberCy616]

What are you talking about? Negligable change? Extra toes, floating nipple, miscolored hand, braindead expression? They are glaring mistakes, not negligable changes!

As for whole AI debacle - nice strawman there. Like, literally ignoring every point people against AI have made. From objective mistakes pointed out in almost every AI-redrawn to the fact that people have gripes not just with AI itself, but with the fact that devs were paid, so why cut corners? Its a greedy move that makes little sense, given how they replaced existing art at random. I could've get behind their decision if their needed a ton of new art ASAP, but they used it differently. Basically putting extra effort with AI to smother efforts artists put into their art, almost all of which was better than the replacement. Basically, putting efforts into downgrading their game.

And you can check my messages here to find out I am not against AI itself and I don't find every AI image in this game bad (I like ones in Meredith sleep molestation and elven priestess scenes, honestly). And that I elaborate on my findings as to what exactly in my opinion is wrong with each AI picture I assess. I also regularly post about bugs I've found.

And I am not alone. Its not some faceless crowd of luddic AI-haters, here are a lot of people with concrete and argument-based remarks in regard to certain AI pictures as well as dev team attitude and game quality.

I, of course, can't forbid you from building strawmen, but they won't replace the arguments. And, frankly, they make your post look ridiculous. Like, after dozens of argumented takes here calling people who made them simple haters is just plain wrong.

P.S. Though I agree about the most Clawyn scenes. Its weird though. Her scene in the forest and soul eater scene are one of the best in game, yet most others are subpar. Curious discrepancy.

You have to admit there are like a few people who do not care for the game and just came to shit post about AI "art" what you and most people have said fair but there are a few people.

 

[Xenrir]

Well, I haven't play Emek's Rest so I can't make a specific advice here. Well, except being a nice little roomba and clean out every nook and cranny, but that's like a go-to every time you feel stuck.

Amen to that. I'm definitely in full-on roomba mode right now - I've made several anchor saves that I'm testing from, because I'm not sure when the on-ramp for the route is. My first assumption is that it's right at the start of Act 3, except that you probably don't go to Cinkahn. Poking around at the end of Act 2, and the end of Act 3, which I think I've pretty firmly ruled out.
It's why I was hoping someone here or on the Discord had figured it out already, haha.

 

[GrandPaBrowning]

So, here is another AI-image:

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I didn't like the original much, but that was one of the most unique artstyles in the game, and it wasn't bad. AI replacement isn't that bad, but only if you don't look closely.

Her facial expression is once again odd. What funny is that AI likes vacant neutral expressions and Beatrice is supposed to have one in this scene since she had lost her humanity. But expression aside, her face has second tongue clipping through the upper lip, which is fucking unacceptable level of mistakes. Also, her asshole gapes before fingering and her expression didn't change upon said fingering how it supposed to.

(I didn't show that there are also weird cum stains that seems to leak from the butthole, but that was an odd detail even in original image)

Though I must admit I kind like her athletic body on the first AI-picture. Shame she has another one of those weird hardy readable expressions on her face. Which is a shame, since this is probably the only time AI-usual vacant expression would have been welcomed. Instead I am not even sure what emotion her face on the first AI-pic is supposed to convey. But maybe I am a little too picky on this one.

 

[GrandPaBrowning]

You have to admit there are like a few people who do not care for the game and just came to shit post about AI "art" what you and most people have said fair but there are a few people.

Of course there are. But there isn't how he worded is, isn't it?

Anyway, I do believe the backbone of people complaining here arent mere haters. Heck, even some outright AI-haters have arguments about AI replacing people currently doing this job and how that's a wrong move since it would meddle with their income. Even if we consider all the neigh-sayers haters, many of those haters still has things to say that are worth our attention.

Someone can, of course, put labels on people, but mislabeling anything isn't usually the right move.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

Buy with valor gems from summeredge rep shop in the conference room (whitemoon castle, same floor as your bedroom). Valor gems can be obtained by successful defence (go outside, do quests, come back to whitemoon and there will be a report whether you defended successfully or not, if yes you get valor gems), also from miniquests in the conference room in act 2, and 50 valor gems from one of the abyss bosses.

fuck you are right and I misremembered.... i cant get it yet I'm still in act 1 trying to see if wizard origins actually influenced anything.

on a side note...wish I knew how to code, id pick back up the class mod and continue it myself

 

[Denji_DOG]

I don't know who managed to compare this game with games from Bioware, but this shit is not even close to Dragon age or Mass effect. This game looks like a cheap parody of them. The art style in each drawing is different, lmao, the dialogues are at the level of the first DOOM, and the gameplay is in the style of the first Final fantasy. Separately, by the way, I wanted to say that there are a lot of bestiality scenes that the developers seem to justify and very few scenes with the male player character.

 

[ArmTV]

new version where to enter the code

 

[Elendil117]

new version where to enter the code

Somehow was deleted in new version. we must wait for fixes about that.

 

[GrandPaBrowning]

Another AI replacement:

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I would say its a good one. For example, expressions on 1st and 2nd AI-pictures are actually nice. There are, perhaps, a few issues (something feels wrong with her fingers and his torso on 2nd pic, like some proportions are a bit off; plus she has doll-like expression on the 3rd), but overall this is nice artwork. And the original was probably one of the weakest in the game.

So, another point for AI. Not a great result given how many points are against it, but I like to give a due when due is due.

 

[GrandPaBrowning]

For some reason when you open crystal core in your Castle's forge, the object icon is off-center. but not the shining effect that supposed to emanate from it:

Very small bug, but it worked fine previously. So I have no idea why it would be broken for some reason.

P.S. The fact that you could only open 1 core at time with several seconds of animation inbetween makes the process quite tedious. At the very least animation should be skippable, better - have an option to open multiple cores at once.

 

[Leo D. Marstone]

And the original was probably one of the weakest in the game.

Thanks for keep posting comparisons but I gotta say the original art in this example is more than fine. You posted far more bad original art before already and this aint it in my opinion.

I would also agree though that the AI did a good enough job to replicate the original image. One of the rare occasions though since none of the pics have been proof edited.

But the question still stands why using AI in this particular scene when the original still holds up?
I guess like over on Taffy Tales thread we wont get a statement from the dev. At least Uber did a bare minimum of proof editing.

 

[Bob Afet]

I think was called builder i tuned it on/off also I selected build stable and build inn, dunno if building something made him appear or if just playing of his variable is enough

Thank you, turning off/on builder setting worked for me.

 

[baneini]

While AI filtering seems like the way to go in the future they need to hire an artist to manually fix the melted bodies and bad genitals. Can't imagine it costs large portion of what an entire cg would cost and some of these pics are redundant the way they are.

 

[Shirohige]

Hello, I don't know if it's related, but since I've been adding perks to my character, I have this kind of error message that pops up almost all the time at the beginning of every fight.

Do you have a solution?

Thank you.

 

[bladeoftheheavens18122]

did they fix abyss knight's main skill attacking the player instead of enemies?

 

[GrandPaBrowning]

Thanks for keep posting comparisons but I gotta say the original art in this example is more than fine. You posted far more bad original art before already and this aint it in my opinion.

I would also agree though that the AI did a good enough job to replicate the original image. One of the rare occasions though since none of the pics have been proof edited.

But the question still stands why using AI in this particular scene when the original still holds up?
I guess like over on Taffy Tales thread we wont get a statement from the dev. At least Uber did a bare minimum of proof editing.

Well, using AI potentially free devs from paying comissions altogether.

And I strongly suggest to all of us to boycott any dev that would try to replace living artists with AI like that. Cutting corners when you are already being paid isn't right.

Not because "AI is evil!" or its often poor quality, but to support people who draw porn. Keep in mind that even legends like Incase or Sabu had humble beginnings, so even if artist draws lower quality porn, his work could evolve with time. And if we will replace all those lower quality pictures with AI, those artists would lose their income and would never improve. Meaning we won't be having new Incase and Sabu.

Its not a simple convience and practicality question. And I know it sounds rich stating this on a porn site, but we are dealing with question of morality. With whether or not we should support other pervs who make art for our wanking, like fellow human beings we all are.

I guess this was my "five minutes of random manifesto time", lol.

P.S. In highlighted case I just don't like that Clawyn art. May be biased, yes.