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No, that was one that got talked about most because that's what the "biggest" games contained that Patreon hit first.

Non consensual stuff like mind control, rape etc is also banned on patreon as is underage stuff and a few others.

Pretty much all that's allowed is vanilla sex stuff with some minor kinks.
Man censorship is so '80s... it's time to move forward!

Glad you enjoyed it!



Pretty much this. Patreon is fairly lax about it, all things considered. Usually if they have a problem they contact you and give you time to work shit out. We have a scene where Roman slaps Carmen but no one's bugged us about that yet. We might just not be on their radar so to speak, though, and if we can avoid crossing any lines we'd prefer to. It's a little bit of a contentious issue, but I don't really see Patreon being the morality police here so much as they probably have contractual obligations to Paypal and such about what kinds of content they can allow. It sucks, but from the people I've talked to about it who had their pages flagged, Patreon normally helps you skirt the rules as much as possible. I can't speak for every Creator or project though, there might be examples which go completely against what I've seen.
It's good that they help creators sort things out, but it's mind boggling to me how they would never flag violence outside of sex related content, but when sex is in the mix "woah woah, too far!". Incest too: I'm pretty sure that you can create whatever content about incest as long as actual sex is not involved.
 
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Man censorship is so '80s... it's time to move forward!



It's good that they help creators sort things out, but it's mind boggling to me how they would never flag violence outside of sex related content, but when sex is in the mix "woah woah, too far!". Incest too: I'm pretty sure that you can create whatever content about incest as long as actual sex is not involved.
I can't say for sure, but I'm fairly sure it's related to Paypal. Paypal is pretty notorious for wanting nothing to do with porn, but it's a payment option with Patreon. Patreon worked out some kind of agreement that allowed them to have lewd games. I'm guessing somehow the nature of the lewd games got back to Paypal and they either pointed out some rules in the contract, or they said they'd pull out unless Patreon agreed to ban the more unsavoury games.

I can't say for sure though, just going by bits and pieces I've heard other EroDevs speculate about. Patreon pretty obviously wants the Lewd Game market, since its very lucrative for them, but Paypal is big enough that they're more concerned about protecting their brand, so it stands to reason that a dispute between the two could lead to Patreon enforcing stricter rules, but also working with Creators to make their pages 'clean'.
 

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I think it'll be interesting to see if the two longtime friends share an uncommon experience together. Experiencing new things can get the juices flowing. Let's say for example, Roman walks in on Glasha groping Carmen. Roman if he chooses can show Glasha how to make Carmen submit willingly (will likely take a lot of appropriate choices). The resulting scene has Glasha watch as Roman is pleasured by Carmen. She realizes that she likes what she sees of Roman and the two can eventually end up together.....and love dominating others as a bonus.
 
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Gomly1980

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I could see Roman and Glasha fucking, not sure how to work out the relationship for a romance arc though but i'm shit at that kind of thing.

I suppose he could keep her happy by proposing regular romantic date nights to go have a bar fight. If he's feeling particularly loving they could possibly go on a moonlight walk to hack up some bandits. Surprise her on her birthday with some chocolates and a shiny new axe ...... probably better to replace the chocolates with something alcoholic.
 

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Art looks interesting but i have a few questions.
Is this game linear VN or is it one of those games with confusing branching routes ?
Is there any NTR in this game or will there be any NTR in this game in the future ?
 

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Art looks interesting but i have a few questions.
Is this game linear VN or is it one of those games with confusing branching routes ?
Is there any NTR in this game or will there be any NTR in this game in the future ?
There's branching routes, but every route has content. There isn't NTR, unless you count sending Crow to whore herself out in town, but for that to happen you have to literally tell her to, so I don't think it qualifies.
 

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I wouldn't class the Crowe part as NTR. If someone is sending her out to prostitute herself then they probably aren't interested in anything "romantic" with her so wouldn't view that as NTR.

Although if I was Roman and I sent her off to do i'd probably be more annoyed that she forgot the money.

Probably be safer to send her with someone else.

She seems a bit forgetful after an orgasm or two.
 

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Well considering Roman and Glasha you could always work in that one of the two has always been interested, but thought he/she would not be welcome or sexy enough. Now find a trigger through either jealousy or something else that would give that person the idea there might be a chance. That could be even be something coming close to non consensual in the first place or manipulation by a third party that has noticed there might be some feelings there and uses it for her own ends.
 

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Lets be honest, if Carmen is as good as she says she is then she could probably have people thinking they have feelings even if they didn't.

Glasha likes a drink and a drunk mind is more "pliable" to suggestion whereas regardless of how good a fighter Roman may be he is a bloke and even if we don't want to we occasionally think with our dicks.

I'm an ex soldier, I know after a fight my bloods up and adrenaline is pumping. In that situation it isn't that much of a stretch to think one or both of them have considered acting on that battle high impulse.

If we're honest, anything could happen here.
 

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I wouldn't class the Crowe part as NTR. If someone is sending her out to prostitute herself then they probably aren't interested in anything "romantic" with her so wouldn't view that as NTR.
Our thoughts exactly, but despite doing everything we could to make that clear we still ended up being called cucked on 4chan's weg thread lol.

Well considering Roman and Glasha you could always work in that one of the two has always been interested, but thought he/she would not be welcome or sexy enough. Now find a trigger through either jealousy or something else that would give that person the idea there might be a chance. That could be even be something coming close to non consensual in the first place or manipulation by a third party that has noticed there might be some feelings there and uses it for her own ends.
I've thought about something like this, but Glasha doesn't tend to be interested in someone for much longer than it takes to fuck them. She might be open to the idea of fucking Roman, if the mood takes her, but she's not the type to form long lasting bonds with people. I can imagine scenarios where they might fuck, but I can't see Glasha becoming Roman's monogamous waifu.

Lets be honest, if Carmen is as good as she says she is then she could probably have people thinking they have feelings even if they didn't.

Glasha likes a drink and a drunk mind is more "pliable" to suggestion whereas regardless of how good a fighter Roman may be he is a bloke and even if we don't want to we occasionally think with our dicks.

I'm an ex soldier, I know after a fight my bloods up and adrenaline is pumping. In that situation it isn't that much of a stretch to think one or both of them have considered acting on that battle high impulse.

If we're honest, anything could happen here.
Probably the most likely scenario involves a combination of alcohol, adrenaline, and coercion. Like I said above though, I can see them fucking but I can't quite see them staying together...

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This is great, thank you! Duski likes your profile picture, by the way. Nebezial is her favourite artist.
 
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Probably the most likely scenario involves a combination of alcohol, adrenaline, and coercion. Like I said above though, I can see them fucking but I can't quite see them staying together...
That's it. I can see a relationship with Crowe as long as they keep her happy sex wise, I can even see something with Carmen eventually ... maybe ... if she lets anyone live.

I can't see romance with Glasha though. Fucking, certainly she still has needs but I don't think romance is one of them. She's not my character so I could be way off, she just doesn't seem the settling type. I know some people may want something more and I won't tell anyone they are wrong i'm just not sure how believable a happy ever after with her would be.

From what I can gather they have been friends/worked together for some time now so there could be enough there for sex to be a natural enough progression ... just not sure how a relationship could go with her.

Our thoughts exactly, but despite doing everything we could to make that clear we still ended up being called cucked on 4chan's weg thread lol.
No matter what angle I look at it from I can't see the cuck/NTR there and I have a documented history of hating all things NTR and I also want to see her and Roman together.

As of now there is no relationship there. Little things have come up that shows an attraction but there has been no relationship between them for NTR or cucking to be a thing.

It seems Orcs in this world have a high sex drive and she's half Orc (if I remember rightly) and just finding out about that side of herself. I think she'd be more likely to experiment until either Roman tells her he wants her or Carmen ties her to a bed ... whichever comes first. Can't say i'd complain with either of those.
 

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Do anyone know if the latest alpha version is gonna be public and if so.. when? btw dont everyone hate paypal already so if paypal is the problem then why not use an other.. must be at least 5 others to choise from.. censor the censorship by making the moral basterds poor lol :D
 

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I just stumbled across this game by accident and boy am I glad I did. Even with only 1 day I can see this is going to be a very fun game. Carmen is awesome, and I can't wait to see how she continues to "play with her new toys." When I first saw the 3 companion characters I was positive Markus was going to be the weak link, all I had to do was keep him away from Carmen, and bam easy win. Crow took me completely by surprise, I never expected that out of the 4 she was going to be the one to give in to Carmen immediately.

I'd like to thank the guys making this for giving us something different, this genre is so overrun with incest clones it's really nice to see someone making something unique and entertaining. I also really like the art style, whoever is doing the images keep up the good work.
 
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It seems Orcs in this world have a high sex drive and she's half Orc (if I remember rightly) and just finding out about that side of herself. I think she'd be more likely to experiment until either Roman tells her he wants her or Carmen ties her to a bed ... whichever comes first. Can't say i'd complain with either of those.
Pretty much this. Orcs are widely regarded as being more sexually proactive, or at least half orcs are (the term half orc doesn't necessarily mean 50/50 split though, Crow is more Human while Glasha is more Orc). Of course, the question then is are Orcs more sexual than humans, or is it a placebo of sorts? Maybe sexually active half orcs use their heritage as an excuse to fuck as much as they like. Carmen definitely enjoys exploring the issue though.

Do anyone know if the latest alpha version is gonna be public and if so.. when?
We're planning three releases which are currently overdue. One of these will be public, one will be for our patrons, and a third will be for our Officers ($10+).

I just stumbled across this game by accident and boy am I glad I did. Even with only 1 day I can see this is going to be a very fun game. Carmen is awesome, and I can't wait to see how she continues to "play with her new toys." When I first saw the 3 companion characters I was positive Markus was going to be the weak link, all I had to do was keep him away from Carmen, and bam easy win. Crow took me completely by surprise, I never expected that out of the 4 she was going to be the one to give in to Carmen immediately.

I'd like to thank the guys making this for giving us something different, this genre is so overrun with incest clones it's really nice to see someone making something unique and entertaining. I also really like the art style, whoever is doing the images keep up the good work.
Thank you! We're glad you're enjoying it so far. We wanted to make something a little different to most of what's out there, and it's always a pleasure to hear when someone thinks we've succeeded in that :D For the art you have Duski to thank, she has a HentaiFoundry account with a little more of her work if you're interested.

My game crashes every time I try to follow crow to tavern.
Are you getting an error message? Which version of the game are you playing?
 

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Are you getting an error message? Which version of the game are you playing?
Yeah, I encounter that too, but my game just gives me a no response shutdown. Quite wired for a renpy game.
I accidentally go through that scene but I can recreate the crash with holding my Crtl.

BTW just try this today and really like it. Pledged and hope to see more.:p
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Yeah, I encounter that too, but my game just gives me a no response shutdown. Quite wired for a renpy game.
I accidentally go through that scene but I can recreate the crash with holding my Crtl.

BTW just try this today and really like it. Pledged and hope to see more.:p
Just noticed we have the exact same games in our sig ... mine are less pretty though.

I shitpost that much I figure I may as well advertise decent games while i'm at it, see if I can get them more attention.

I could probably shitpost less but where's the fun in that.
 
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