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VN Ren'Py Abandoned Sanguis et Imperium [v0.2] [Helheim]

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badlulu

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Thanks for the heads up here.


I think a closer example is going to buy some chocolate and then asking the seller "is there nuts in it? I'm allergic to nuts." "It comes with nuts on the side, but you can avoid putting the nuts in." In this game it seems like the dev left a nut in the chocolate after saying they're avoidable so naturally people are gonna get pissed.
There's a million other chocolate bars here without nuts. Why are you so focused on one that says "may contain nuts" if you're that allergic?
 

Bahamut Zero

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Hi guys, just find this game right now. For the plot, the game look nice. But i need to understand some little things.
The first thing i do, after i search and find a new game, is look under genre. So if there is a genre that i do not like (NTR) i ask if is avoidable or not.
Now... under the genre i do not see it. But in the tag system the NTR is there.
So... can someone tell me if there is NTR? And if there is: avoidable?

Thank you
 

kiljaeden

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Hi guys, just find this game right now. For the plot, the game look nice. But i need to understand some little things.
The first thing i do, after i search and find a new game, is look under genre. So if there is a genre that i do not like (NTR) i ask if is avoidable or not.
Now... under the genre i do not see it. But in the tag system the NTR is there.
So... can someone tell me if there is NTR? And if there is: avoidable?

Thank you
MC's mother is basically a prostitute. This isn't ntr but since everybody have their own ntr definition these days you should pass if you don't wanna risk it.
 

Bahamut Zero

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MC's mother is basically a prostitute. This isn't ntr but since everybody have their own ntr definition these days you should pass if you don't wanna risk it.
Oh man... with all the characters in the world, the mother had to be a prostitute? I can only wait and see if the story give us the choice of... help you mother to find a different job. If not... unfortunately I will have to avoid the game.
For now i put the game in the folder of: let's see who happen

Thank you for the answer
 

Alex Lem

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Hi guys, just find this game right now. For the plot, the game look nice. But i need to understand some little things.
The first thing i do, after i search and find a new game, is look under genre. So if there is a genre that i do not like (NTR) i ask if is avoidable or not.
Now... under the genre i do not see it. But in the tag system the NTR is there.
So... can someone tell me if there is NTR? And if there is: avoidable?

Thank you
The game looks very good, but MC's mom is a whore, and she accepts clients in the same place where she lives with her son, and there is also a moment where she wipes the client's cum on MC. I despise NTR myself, but I don't know what to think about this game yet. The character of "mother" is absolutely destroyed from the very beginning, a woman who sells herself at a time when she can find any other job is not worth any love, especially if she is a mother, for her child it is disgusting and shameful. Maybe there will be girls more worthy of attention in the game, and MC will sort of become a vampire in the future. In general, it is too early to judge, because there is very little content in the game so far
 

Bahamut Zero

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The game looks very good, but MC's mom is a whore, and she accepts clients in the same place where she lives with her son, and there is also a moment where she wipes the client's cum on MC. I despise NTR myself, but I don't know what to think about this game yet. The character of "mother" is absolutely destroyed from the very beginning, a woman who sells herself at a time when she can find any other job is not worth any love, especially if she is a mother, for her child it is disgusting and shameful. Maybe there will be girls more worthy of attention in the game, and MC will sort of become a vampire in the future. In general, it is too early to judge, because there is very little content in the game so far
Man it's worse than I thought... the only hope was that reading the plot, look like that the MC can travel back in time? Through maybe... Alaire Lacroix change his future life? From how you describe it, for me it is almost 90% "no" to play.
But if my theory were right, waiting and seeing the evolution of events would not be bad. Really i hate, when developer are so focus on NTR today. Make a mother a prostitute, is not a start of a ntr, but if you say: and there is also a moment where she wipes the client's cum on MC. This is a NTR act and is the worse things that i can read. Better to wait and see the event. In case i just deleted the page. And move to another game.
 

Alex Lem

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Man it's worse than I thought... the only hope was that reading the plot, look like that the MC can travel back in time? Through maybe... Alaire Lacroix change his future life? From how you describe it, for me it is almost 90% "no" to play.
But if my theory were right, waiting and seeing the evolution of events would not be bad. Really i hate, when developer are so focus on NTR today. Make a mother a prostitute, is not a start of a ntr, but if you say: and there is also a moment where she wipes the client's cum on MC. This is a NTR act and is the worse things that i can read. Better to wait and see the event. In case i just deleted the page. And move to another game.
I don't know what Dev can come up with to redeem her in the eyes of the players. But to start a romantic story with her after that? It's impossible. If MC becomes a vampire and turns her, then maybe there will be a time skip and they will have a normal relationship, which then "maybe" gradually lead to a good romantic incest story, then "maybe" she has a chance, but that's just a theory. I'll be waiting to see what the other female characters will be like
 

Bahamut Zero

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I don't know what Dev can come up with to redeem her in the eyes of the players. But to start a romantic story with her after that? It's impossible. If MC becomes a vampire and turns her, then maybe there will be a time skip and they will have a normal relationship, which then "maybe" gradually lead to a good romantic incest story, then "maybe" she has a chance, but that's just a theory. I'll be waiting to see what the other female characters will be like
Yeah as i say is really worste for now. But travel back in time do not mean only to become a vampire. I mean that if you become Alaire Lacroix, guiding him between the right choices, it could also change the future of the mc. That is, for example, making sure that they have the money and never having to find themselves in a situation like that. So make a clean sweep of a present that never happened. Of course, those who play remember that present, but now it has changed and can start from scratch. Are all theory. Anyway for now i do not download the game. I just wait and see how the things evolve.
 
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hakulaku97

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The mother is erotic, sadistic and warped by her profession and obvious hate for the father. In other words she's hot and believable.

If you're looking for wholesome mothers in porn games you should really be browsing therapy not porn games. I'll never understand why people get so insecure and personal about things like NTR in games like these. The game's asset is its intense eroticism and renders, not the ability to make you feel good about whatever self-esteem issues you're having.
man so i feel the need to respond. you are right in this game the mother feels believable, because the theme of the game is not a wholesome thematic. but why do you think the majotity of people who are into incest like to have eitehr a cute little sister, a heartwarming mother or daughter you need to protect. because we like the forbidden fruit aspect and we like to have happy setting than rather a dark one. people in geenarl strive to have happy things around them. as for NTR this also has an aspect of reflecting your inner problems into porn games. example mother NTR why do you thiml there are people who have an inferoir or superior kink. kinks in general are formed in your subconscious based on your past or present events you had. so basically saying that someone should see therapist if they are havenig a specific kink which was created from problems, past events or instincts is equally as saying this entire board including yourself should see a therapist. i get it you do not like the wholesome situatons some of us around here like. so rather spreading you hate you could shut up and, play the games you like and let the people live out theit own kinks as you would want that too
 

PostOffice

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yeah i know because of that i thought for 10 minutes if i should respond or not but i wanted to point out that saying someon needs therapy for having a specific kink is rather a cold hearted statement.
The difference is that I'm not going to vanilla, wholesome authors and telling them that their game is unplayable because it's not a Greek tragedy. I'm not trying to influence wholesome writers in any way to make their stories more taboo. I don't go in their threads hounding them that their story isn't dark enough.

Privately, I like wholesomeness, but the author of Sanguis et Imperium should have the freedom to be creative and write to his tastes without people with a chip on their shoulder constantly saying that they can't read a story unless it caters to them.
 
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hakulaku97

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The difference is that I'm not going to vanilla, wholesome authors and telling them that their game is unplayable because it's not a Greek tragedy. I'm not trying to influence wholesome writers in any way to make their stories more taboo. I don't go in their threads hounding them that their story isn't dark enough.

Privately, I like wholesomeness, but the author of Sanguis et Imperium should have the freedom to be creative and write to his tastes without people with a chip on their shoulder constantly saying that they can't read a story unless it caters to their delicate feelings.
i agree with you on that, as for the game the creator should have the freedom to write the story as he wants. my issue was not your opnion on the game but you opnion on the topic therapy, it is a big step for someone to decide to gon in therapy fo the issues the person faces. i have a personal issue with the phrasing someone should seek threapy if he uses those games for dealing with his propblems. basically i lost a friend because he committed suicide, we talked alot about some games on her etc. it was his way of dealing with his issues until he could not take it anymore. i amsure if he did not had those games his suicide would have been much sooner and even i could not save him. he was in therapy btw way. so basically i am not commenting on your view of the game than rather on your view of dealing with some issues with the help of porn games or games in general
 

KingWeWuz

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The difference is that I'm not going to vanilla, wholesome authors and telling them that their game is unplayable because it's not a Greek tragedy. I'm not trying to influence wholesome writers in any way to make their stories more taboo. I don't go in their threads hounding them that their story isn't dark enough.

Privately, I like wholesomeness, but the author of Sanguis et Imperium should have the freedom to be creative and write to his tastes without people with a chip on their shoulder constantly saying that they can't read a story unless it caters to them.
You know the major complaint about his game is that he repeatedly said it was not an ntr game with avoidable routes but people very clearly felt that with his mother. The complaint is not "Change your game around my tastes and preferences." The complaint is "do not advertise a lie." If he just flat out said there's unavoidable scenes with other guys fucking the mc's mom in the op then most of the complaints would be down the drain, but he didn't, he said it was an optional path when it was basically the entire prologue.

But whatever we're getting into OT territory. I would hope we could skip the childhood scene where the mom rubs a guy's cum on the character. An ntr past is ok, as long as it's not an ntr present. Recall MNF? Dude has an ntr past, but because nothing is shown, it dodges both the tag and the reputation of an ntr game.
 
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laeg

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But whatever we're getting into OT territory. I've been watching his thread to see if he'll remove the scene or change it so we don't have to see it. There are other ways of saying mom worked as a prostitute other than giving us a front row seat to watch.
unfortunately he cant, he spend 4 months to made this and i dont see another way how to made it sucesfull or avoidable...
if he is not making it only for pleasure it will be abandoned ( sad cause hight quality renders)
 
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VNON

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i almost mistakenly thinking it was sanguine rose
story is good, render is good

imo
NTR hating is just aggravating
the mother is just acting though, still loveable

i m hoping it wont turn into a sandbox out of nowhere
 

kiljaeden

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You know the major complaint about his game is that he repeatedly said it was not an ntr game with avoidable routes but people very clearly felt that with his mother. The complaint is not "Change your game around my tastes and preferences." The complaint is "do not advertise a lie." If he just flat out said there's unavoidable scenes with other guys fucking the mc's mom in the op then most of the complaints would be down the drain, but he didn't, he said it was an optional path when it was basically the entire prologue.

But whatever we're getting into OT territory. I've been watching his thread to see if he'll remove the scene or change it so we don't have to see it. There are other ways of saying mom worked as a prostitute other than giving us a front row seat to watch.
there is no such a scene in the game right now. You can't watch her fucking her only costumer we have seen. Maybe she gave a blowjob and transaction done. We have no idea. For dev's definition this may not be ntr. I think everybody need to calm down and let dev do his job.
 

Strаnger

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Can someone explain to me how to open this game((( when I played version 0.1.1. it's was just fine (it was only one exe file). I cannot open games with two exe files (ex. SanguisetImperium and SanguisetImperium-32). It's doesn't matter what game...if it has two exe files.
P.S. English is not my native language :D I hope you do understand my problem. Pls help :cry:
 

hakulaku97

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Can someone explain to me how to open this game((( when I played version 0.1.1. it's was just fine (it was only one exe file). I cannot open games with two exe files (ex. SanguisetImperium and SanguisetImperium-32). It's doesn't matter what game...if it has two exe files.
P.S. English is not my native language :D I hope you do understand my problem. Pls help :cry:
SanguisetImperium for 64 bit windows system
SanguisetImperium-32 for 32 bit windows system

so just check what system you have
 
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