VN RPGM Onhold Saria Reclaimed [v0.17] [Velminth]

[SpurdoSparda123]

Good, now thats are over with :

Plan is, there's a city there afterall to return to after the fights, so how about the more corruption you collect across your battles, via teases or defeats or events you have clients (the baldman.png assets) show up with increasingly lewd offers for money along with other smol events ?

That's a middle ground I'm up to offer.

I think it'd bring back that aspect of exploration some were talking about earlier. Maybe also expand this hub area of the city in in future upgrades after you progress in the story, it's more work but I think people would have fun with it and the different area of the town would let you introduce new events fitting to that area of the city as well as different jobs like the massage thing from before if you end up having the time for those. Another thing I always appreciate with games that have corruption mechanics is even the random NPCs that don't give you lewd offers start reacting differently to you as your reputation changes so that'd be nice to see.

For the combat how important are fetishes meant to be to increasing your combat power? I'm curious how many of the combat power ups are relating to increasing corruption and how many you get from just winning normally, I know new moves and Core Tenets are meant to be a thing but we haven't seen those yet.
Was there some way to see the current Willpower/Mood in the UI in the current update? I know you can see the Willpower when it gets reduced but then it defaults back to the Stamina bar, and I haven't caught sights of the Mood percentage at all.

 

[Nikita1488]

Hey Vel, banning me on discord won't make UX of your game better, sorry if you can't stand criticism

 

[SarisaLynn]

idk wtf is going on and why my feed is blowing up with reviews and updates for this all of a sudden but after some skimming and scrolling i gotta try this and see if it's even that bad.

 

[SarisaLynn]

idk wtf is going on and why my feed is blowing up with reviews and updates for this all of a sudden but after some skimming and scrolling i gotta try this and see if it's even that bad.

Bugs aside, I don't....mind it, I can see how people could be put off by such a drastic flip, but I could take either version, honestly taking a bit of this new one and a bit of the previous would work really well, I definitely like the changes to the card system and how it's not rng cards and you have a fixed loadout to select from.

 

[nickelpower]

praying for homie dev to find his peace of mind and everyone included him will be happy and satisfied

 

[DraganotheDragonKing]

What I don't get is why he's gotta be a smug asshole about it. In the discord he was complaining about "armchair devs" but like the point of allowing people to sub to a patreon is partially to let them have some kind of a say on the development process. Seems he really only wants an echo chamber.

Man needs to pull his head out of his ass instead of attacking everyone around him. Especially the people who wanted his game to succeed.

And that's a terrible thing to do you never want to surround yourself with an echo chamber or you will never grow creatively or intellectually you need to have people around with opposing views and able to take criticism in order to see all sides and make better more informed decisions!

 

[RiM]

 

[DraganotheDragonKing]

Good, now thats are over with :

Plan is, there's a city there afterall to return to after the fights, so how about the more corruption you collect across your battles, via teases or defeats or events you have clients (the baldman.png assets) show up with increasingly lewd offers for money along with other smol events ?

That's a middle ground I'm up to offer.

I think more than a hub city would be needed maybe a hub for each area or bring back the old system and use this new one for like quests, boss fights, quests, and other important events maybe just something basic at first and expand on them later because you did have really nice art for a lot of the areas the sprites looked good too. The art for the cards were really nice too and the lewd ones were like little sprinkles on top of the cake!

The RPG elements you had before were also fun I liked the slow corruption, the deck building, collecting the cards (hell I do that irl), and the interactions with NPCs I specifically liked the guy you could keep shoving off a cliff and he would just come back and him and Saria would comment on it that was funny. I just hate to see that all go.

As for the criticism thing you got to be able to take it not every one is an attack on you people just want their voice heard. There are a lot of people that loved your game and still do and I know your game gets compared to Karryns Prison a LOT and that must be frustrating to be compared to someone elses work and you want your creation to be unique and stand out hell every creator does no matter what it is but it's a great game and you had a great game and it can still be great I just hope the comparisons aren't driving you to stray further away just to make an effort to make something unique.

A lot of people came here and stayed because of the RPG elements a lot don't like the VN style because of over saturation in the market and don't want a CG collector they want an actual game they can play myself included. The change so far is pretty bad not gonna lie but I am glad to see you are working on a middle ground and I'm willing to see how it plays out I just hope that it's enough. I have seen your art beyond just Saria and you are a great artist and have potential to be a great game dev, but wether you're an artist, dev, actor, voice actor, content creator, or comedian you are in the entertainment industry and like it or not at the end of the day your job is to be a people pleaser if you don't you lose reputation and money and that's not good! Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying listen to the 1 rando that says stuff like add pregnancy, add vore, make Saria a furry, etc. but when there is a massive outcry you have to be able to listen and make compromises and not lose your temper when people don't like something enmass.

Again glad you're willing to make a middle ground hope it turns out great and hope you're able to reel back the schizo dev tedencies a bit going forward lol I hope you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

 

[Gnodab]

I hope the developer doesn't abandon the game after all the negativity from the community

Don't worry, man's way too far up his own ass to just call it quits

If that is for the better or the detriment of the game, remains to be seen.

Anyway, i unironically hope the dev is getting back on his meds and will feel better sooner rather than later.

 

[Yllarius]

The most annoying part, is the CORE of the remade system is actually pretty good. Throw in side areas and quests, make battles give something meaningful a la exp or LOOT, and it would be fine.

AND the new battle screen is great, I was super excited my first fight, seeing Saria on one side and the enemies on the other was super cool, and I enjoyed seeing the cut-ins into my turn instead of just brief flashes in-between. There's plenty to like about the overhaul.

The biggest negatives are:
The loss of non-sexual character progression. With no EXP/loot ect, fights feel more like a barrier or ceremony that simply exists, and is simply NOT interesting enough to be fun on it's own.

The loss of the corruption mechanics removes BOTH the interest in seeing Saria succumb to the lewd dangers of the wastelands, AND the players interaction with that fact.

adding in the ability for her to prostitute herself based on corruption, just doesn't feel as interactive at all IMHO.

And the worst part is, I don't understand WHY this change was made or WHY the dev is SO resistant to it.

90% of the 'baldmen.jpg's were already complete. Hell, many of the voicelines were even VOICE ACTED. (Are all those lines just straight up wasted now?)

You could literally take your old pictures, re-implement the system, draw the like IDK 3-5 that were left, and THEN if you were so keen on these 'unique' H-attacks, implement them on unique enemies.

Suddenly, pretty much everyone is happy.

Instead the dev created MORE work by scrapping pretty much all the old content from the game, all the time creating the maps, the sprites, the in-battle stuff, the systems, AND the money wasted on hiring a voice actor. All gone.

 

[lesath]

The progress of this game heavily reminds me of Firefall - the dev went from overhaul to overhaul, turning what started as an exciting game I kept refreshing the forum for updates into something that might actually cure my porn addiction...

 

[Warphorror]

After playing a bit but not yet extensivelly here are what I hope is constructive feedback.

Positive : - The combat feels fine, the card systems still allows the possibility of builds and flexibility of change with now more player agency and gameplay in battle. I quite enjoyed the first battles.
- A stronger narrative that anchor more the setting is good.

Mixed :
- Only sometimes the combination of your starting stance with the enemy attacking first and their good attack can one shot you given the 10hp you have, maybe ensuring a player first on the starting round or a weak enemy attack on first round?
- A tooltip for the good resistance of a stance could be a nice addition.
- I don't know if it's intended but I didn't manage to choose the horny option (cactus and striptease) during the story, hint on requirement could be nice but also could simply not have been yet implemented.

Negative : - Strangely linked to the positive of a stronger storyline but the system of chapters (like a VN) with a repetition of unique (story wise) dialogue make that a defeat feels like a gameover load a previous state rather than a continuity system (where before you escaped from the victors) and diminished the story involvement as well as the consequences of combat.
- The removal of the map and it's interaction make the player feels like jumping from storybeat to storybeat with no link, no spatial cohesion. I basically felt disconnect from the game. Also it's less fun than walking around and defeating group of enemy but that's purely subjective.

This is not to attack the dev just to point out what felt good and what did not.
Edit: typos corrections

 

[velikain]

Positive : - The combat feels fine, the card systems still allows the possibility of builds and flexibility of change with now more player agency and gameplay in battle. I quite enjoyed the first battles.

Maybe we play in different versions, but in 0.16 all I do is restart and spam Daze card until I would not be killed on second turn with bleeding.

 

[TatsumaruOZ]

I loved the first versions in the style of Karryn prison, then I was not convinced with the card system but when I understood it I enjoyed it a lot, but something that I really always loved was exploration, my favorite maps were the abandoned ship and the hive, now I see that the change has been the most drastic to date to the point of no longer being a game and becoming a VN, goodbye exploration but I am going to try to be positive now that everything is simpler I suppose that the development is going to be faster, so I will continue to pay attention to each update especially because I love Saria, there are not many protagonists like her.

 

[Warphorror]

Maybe we play in different versions, but in 0.16 all I do is restart and spam Daze card until I would not be killed on second turn with bleeding.

I didn't try spamming an attack because I didn't felt like I had to, except when one shot turn 1, I won just by using different stance and enemy weakness as I guess the sytem intend.

 

[velikain]

I didn't try spamming an attack because I didn't felt like I had to, except when one shot turn 1, I won just by using different stance and enemy weakness as I guess the sytem intend.

I die on 2 turn almost all time in last battle if I got bleeding. With daze I can block or evade it.

 

[PowWow]

You can tell how much the remake is disliked when nobody even bothers to add the new version... I wish Vel the best but I'm glad I cancelled my subscription before things became like this.

 

[RICKY43]

Went from a promising game to an actual shit show terrible game. What's worse, the crybaby loser dev takes all feedback and criticism as personal jabs. The finished product of this game will be terrible, and he will only have himself to blame.

 

[Chetti]

Went from a promising game to an actual shit show terrible game. What's worse, the crybaby loser dev takes all feedback and criticism as personal jabs. The finished product of this game will be terrible, and he will only have himself to blame.

Cry harder

 

[Chetti]

So people are mad because this turned into a VN? man this is fucking great, the combat system was stupid as fuck, grinding hours just to get a simple sex scenes, I think the dev knows what he is doing, the community is just stupid as fuck, I understand the sentiment of wanting gameplay but the game had just boring grinding battles, I think the change to be episodic VN will be great.