VN RPGM Abandoned Saria Reclaimed [v0.17] [Velminth]

[Xenon-San]

You know what ? never mind here's how i felt playing this game

and no amount of shiny abs will repair it, sorry

 

[AngrySpergMarine]

yeah, wasted my time looking forward to a decent game just to find out the dev is a childish moron

Many such cases.

So the game got turned into a VN and not even the Dommy Mommy at the new start helped the case, i guess

She came off as pretty even keeled and supportive. Saria on the other hand sounded like Altair at the beginning of Assassin's Creed dismissing getting his entire squad killed. I bet if Vel played that recently we'd get a similar cutscene to start the game, or if he watched Cobra we'd get a "turn your badge in!" scene.

 

[Regin1]

Vel I doubt you look at these since you constantly shit talk f95 in merchant chat and everywhere else but .16 was a flop, go back to when people enjoyed the game if you want to maintain the base you have. This is NOT like the introduction to card mechanics this will kill the fan base.
- Former Saria Fiend

 

[degenerateguy]

Say what you want about us leeches here over on F95, but this dev is just blatantly disrespectful to his patreons.

 

[FTFaceless]

Say what you want about us leeches here over on F95, but this dev is just blatantly disrespectful to his patreons.

I wonder if there's are report function on patreon if product turns being a fraud? He literally deceived his backers.

 

[Marlin Brandy]

I wonder if there's are report function on patreon if product turns being a fraud? He literally deceived his backers.

No. As much as people (myself included) are disappointed in the change in direction, he did not literally deceive his backers. I have no previous archived version of his patreon, but it states that any backing will simply support any direction he chooses. He never gave patrons any meaningful influence over the project, nor did he ever handcuff himself to any promise on what "Saria Reclaimed" stood for, other than sexy blue hair tan tomboy (even that could be up in the air). Saria Reclaimed is only described as a lewd game.

I like calling out fraud as much as the next guy, but this ain't it. Don't overuse that label and make it meaningless. Save it for actually fraudulent/scummy projects. There are so many there's no need to catch innocents in the crossfire.

In the meanwhile. Keep a copy of 0.15 and play that for now. I am here to crank my piston, it is still a great game for that. I will be waiting for CG rips once the VN gets enough content.

Another possibly great thing would be to ask Velminth to release the project files of Saria RPGclaimed, so there could be maybe a community revival project, if he really doesn't care for it anymore. I would hate to see it shelved forever.

 

[BlackWyvern]

I wonder if there's are report function on patreon if product turns being a fraud? He literally deceived his backers.

Yeah not really possible, you have to majorly screw up as creator to fall outside the guidelines.
The changes he made fall within (taken from the Report content page on patreon) "For example, if you are unhappy with the quality of what a creator has produced or the direction their new work is taking, please contact them to discuss the issue via messages."

 

[Marlin Brandy]

Anyone got screenies of the dev acting childish/not taking criticism well? All I see are people that insinuate that, no concrete evidence.

 

[FTFaceless]

No. As much as people (myself included) are disappointed in the change in direction, he did not literally deceive his backers. I have no previous archived version of his patreon, but it states that any backing will simply support any direction he chooses. He never gave patrons any meaningful influence over the project, nor did he ever handcuff himself to any promise on what "Saria Reclaimed" stood for, other than sexy blue hair tan tomboy (even that could be up in the air). Saria Reclaimed is only described as a lewd game.

I like calling out fraud as much as the next guy, but this ain't it. Don't overuse that label and make it meaningless. Save it for actually fraudulent/scummy projects. There are so many there's no need to catch innocents in the crossfire.

In the meanwhile. Keep a copy of 0.15 and play that for now. I am here to crank my piston, it is still a great game for that. I will be waiting for CG rips once the VN gets enough content.

Another possibly great thing would be to ask Velminth to release the project files of Saria RPGclaimed, so there could be maybe a community revival project, if he really doesn't care for it anymore. I would hate to see it shelved forever.

I doubt the dev would do that cause "gives no shit" what people want or ask no matter how much money involved.

 

[FTFaceless]

Anyone got screenies of the dev acting childish/not taking criticism well? All I see are people that insinuate that, no concrete evidence.

https://f95zone.to/threads/saria-reclaimed-v0-16-velminth.114058/post-12676496

 

[Marlin Brandy]

https://f95zone.to/threads/saria-reclaimed-v0-16-velminth.114058/post-12676496

Yeah, I saw that post. Was hoping for more. It really doesn't scream a pattern of unwilling to accept criticism to me (I was expecting massive ban waves or him flipping out). It only looks like he doesn't want to cede any development decisions to his fans. As the first couple of comments when the new version dropped have stated, he is not making this for the money. He clearly cares very little about the game's financial success.
Perhaps it is purely a pursuit of passion

 

[Marlin Brandy]

I doubt the dev would do that cause "gives no shit" what people want or ask no matter how much money involved.

I realise, though it doesn't hurt to dream...

 

[FTFaceless]

Yeah, I saw that post. Was hoping for more. It really doesn't scream a pattern of unwilling to accept criticism to me (I was expecting massive ban waves or him flipping out). It only looks like he doesn't want to cede any development decisions to his fans. As the first couple of comments when the new version dropped have stated, he is not making this for the money. He clearly cares very little about the game's financial success.
Perhaps it is purely a pursuit of passion

And that's why he putted it on Patreon in the first place... yeee, sounds logical.

 

[Marlin Brandy]

And that's why he putted it on Patreon in the first place... yeee, sounds logical.

My guy, his patreon was created for his art in general. If you go to his about page there, it hints that it has at least existed since 2019. The game was first released in 2022. The patreon is not for the game. And seeing as he's willing to make these kinds of radical unpopular changes, clearly patreon income from the game is not a priority.
You can want to pursue a passion free from the financial motive but still appreciate people throwing dollars your way. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

[FTFaceless]

My guy, his patreon was created for his art in general. If you go to his about page there, it hints that it has at least existed since 2019. The game was first released in 2022. The patreon is not for the game. And seeing as he's willing to make these kinds of radical unpopular changes, clearly patreon income from the game is not a priority.
You can want to pursue a passion free from the financial motive but still appreciate people throwing dollars your way. They are not mutually exclusive.

Whatever... still he could just left a legacy version for download without saying anything stupid.

 

[tseug]

Whatever... still he could just left a legacy version for download without saying anything stupid.

You can go on his itch page and get 15.2 version along with 16.0.

 

[seventhsword]

constantly shit talk f95 in merchant chat and everywhere else

This is basically 100% confirmation that he DOES read this thread.

The real core of the issue is not that he changed the game from an RPG into a VN. It is that he changed it into a really SHITTY VN. As someone who is avid fan of the genre, his work is even below straight up nukige with paper thin plot. It's not just trash, it really is just that insultingly bad. The card system makes zero sense and the AI can straight up one shot you before you even get a turn sometimes. There's half baked and then there's "I didn't even remove the ingredients from the packaging before throwing raw steak into a microwave." I don't get how anyone can dick ride hard enough to defend 0.16 at all.

 

[moonlightking]

Yeah, I saw that post. Was hoping for more. It really doesn't scream a pattern of unwilling to accept criticism to me (I was expecting massive ban waves or him flipping out). It only looks like he doesn't want to cede any development decisions to his fans. As the first couple of comments when the new version dropped have stated, he is not making this for the money. He clearly cares very little about the game's financial success.
Perhaps it is purely a pursuit of passion

He banned many people, blocked the comments on itchio and said on their discord to "leave f95 shit to where it belongs", eventhough he was more than happy to post the updates themselves up until now.

I am not saying it is not a passion project but he has changed his "passion" two times in a row in a span of a few months, and is taking zero consideration on the people who paid him to support the game. A simple heads up would have worked wonders, he simply decided to scrap everything out of nowhere without telling their patreons (who wasted many months worth of suscription only to see the game they supported has dissapeared).

 

[BonkToHJail]

This is basically 100% confirmation that he DOES read this thread.

The real core of the issue is not that he changed the game from an RPG into a VN. It is that he changed it into a really SHITTY VN. As someone who is avid fan of the genre, his work is even below straight up nukige with paper thin plot. It's not just trash, it really is just that insultingly bad. The card system makes zero sense and the AI can straight up one shot you before you even get a turn sometimes. There's half baked and then there's "I didn't even remove the ingredients from the packaging before throwing raw steak into a microwave." I don't get how anyone can dick ride hard enough to defend 0.16 at all.

Its like Rock Paper Siscors (But in RPS - Paper beats Rock, not Paper itself)
As i get it if enemy attacks you with Slash you want to be in any stance but Slash stance cuz with it you will get x2 dmg, while with others its x1 and 0.5 [Slash>Peirece>Blunt>Slash]
But since there is no neutral stance in which you get x1 only and no lvl up or gears to get def or hp stats, its becomes BS card game where the is no tactics but HOPE & LUCK.
Its terrible idea to make ONE-SHOT attacks (either by buffs/debuffs or not) with "placement RNG" (Who will attack first in next turn) and Stats RNG (How much dmg you will deal form 1-5 or EVA/HEAL get) in same battle, cuz every time you must just hope and pray that after you pick two healing moves cuz your HP is fuckin 1 you will get at least one good heal and won't be followed by attack which will deal more dmg than you have healed or have in general (10dmg = death).

 

[Kira999]

Who pass chapter 4, that dude just do oneshot to Saria!