FTFaceless
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I wonder if there's are report function on patreon if product turns being a fraud? He literally deceived his backers.
Marlin Brandy
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No. As much as people (myself included) are disappointed in the change in direction, he did not literally deceive his backers. I have no previous archived version of his patreon, but it states that any backing will simply support any direction he chooses. He never gave patrons any meaningful influence over the project, nor did he ever handcuff himself to any promise on what "Saria Reclaimed" stood for, other than sexy blue hair tan tomboy (even that could be up in the air). Saria Reclaimed is only described as a lewd game.
I like calling out fraud as much as the next guy, but this ain't it. Don't overuse that label and make it meaningless. Save it for actually fraudulent/scummy projects. There are so many there's no need to catch innocents in the crossfire.
In the meanwhile. Keep a copy of 0.15 and play that for now. I am here to crank my piston, it is still a great game for that. I will be waiting for CG rips once the VN gets enough content.
Another possibly great thing would be to ask Velminth to release the project files of Saria RPGclaimed, so there could be maybe a community revival project, if he really doesn't care for it anymore. I would hate to see it shelved forever.
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Yeah not really possible, you have to majorly screw up as creator to fall outside the guidelines.
The changes he made fall within (taken from the Report content page on patreon) "For example, if you are unhappy with the quality of what a creator has produced or the direction their new work is taking, please contact them to discuss the issue via messages."
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Anyone got screenies of the dev acting childish/not taking criticism well? All I see are people that insinuate that, no concrete evidence.
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I doubt the dev would do that cause "gives no shit" what people want or ask no matter how much money involved.
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Yeah, I saw that post. Was hoping for more. It really doesn't scream a pattern of unwilling to accept criticism to me (I was expecting massive ban waves or him flipping out). It only looks like he doesn't want to cede any development decisions to his fans. As the first couple of comments when the new version dropped have stated, he is not making this for the money. He clearly cares very little about the game's financial success.
Perhaps it is purely a pursuit of passion
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And that's why he putted it on Patreon in the first place... yeee, sounds logical.
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My guy, his patreon was created for his art in general. If you go to his about page there, it hints that it has at least existed since 2019. The game was first released in 2022. The patreon is not for the game. And seeing as he's willing to make these kinds of radical unpopular changes, clearly patreon income from the game is not a priority.
You can want to pursue a passion free from the financial motive but still appreciate people throwing dollars your way. They are not mutually exclusive.
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Whatever... still he could just left a legacy version for download without saying anything stupid.
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This is basically 100% confirmation that he DOES read this thread.
The real core of the issue is not that he changed the game from an RPG into a VN. It is that he changed it into a really SHITTY VN. As someone who is avid fan of the genre, his work is even below straight up nukige with paper thin plot. It's not just trash, it really is just that insultingly bad. The card system makes zero sense and the AI can straight up one shot you before you even get a turn sometimes. There's half baked and then there's "I didn't even remove the ingredients from the packaging before throwing raw steak into a microwave." I don't get how anyone can dick ride hard enough to defend 0.16 at all.
He banned many people, blocked the comments on itchio and said on their discord to "leave f95 shit to where it belongs", eventhough he was more than happy to post the updates themselves up until now.
I am not saying it is not a passion project but he has changed his "passion" two times in a row in a span of a few months, and is taking zero consideration on the people who paid him to support the game. A simple heads up would have worked wonders, he simply decided to scrap everything out of nowhere without telling their patreons (who wasted many months worth of suscription only to see the game they supported has dissapeared).
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Its like Rock Paper Siscors (But in RPS - Paper beats Rock, not Paper itself)
As i get it if enemy attacks you with Slash you want to be in any stance but Slash stance cuz with it you will get x2 dmg, while with others its x1 and 0.5 [Slash>Peirece>Blunt>Slash]
But since there is no neutral stance in which you get x1 only and no lvl up or gears to get def or hp stats, its becomes BS card game where the is no tactics but HOPE & LUCK.
Its terrible idea to make ONE-SHOT attacks (either by buffs/debuffs or not) with "placement RNG" (Who will attack first in next turn) and Stats RNG (How much dmg you will deal form 1-5 or EVA/HEAL get) in same battle, cuz every time you must just hope and pray that after you pick two healing moves cuz your HP is fuckin 1 you will get at least one good heal and won't be followed by attack which will deal more dmg than you have healed or have in general (10dmg = death).
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Before I add to the list, just a quick heads up:
There are a ton of games, that are in the vicinity of all the mentioned games, that I like, but might feel too far removed from something like Karryn's Prison, ergo games like Caliross, Liz, Claire's Quest, The Agnietta, Naked Ambition, The Queendom of Lithzena etc., then there are the tons of pretty good games, that just get too samey too quickly for my taste - or that can only be found in the Translation part of F95 for a reason
):Light-Space Love (it's still not very content rich and long in the tooth, but it's Karryn's ambitions are clear):
https://f95zone.to/threads/light-space-love-v0-43-halftilt.127735/
Succulence (play it for some time and you'll see, why it's not just a simple "Find the CGs" game, but goes pretty wide + deep):
https://f95zone.to/threads/succulence-v2-5-ae-r-nest.6339/
Magical Girl Celesphonia (try its CN Mod, if you liked the Vanilla experience):
https://f95zone.to/threads/magical-girl-celesphonia-v1-07-shimobashira-workshop-kagura-games.116302/
Sarah of the Rotation Cut:
https://f95zone.to/threads/rj155863-sarah-of-the-rotation-cut-v2-2-1-translation-v2-3-5.7676/
Corruption Town (kinda like Karryn's Bar mini game with some story attached):
https://f95zone.to/threads/corruption-town-v0-3g-boredbasmati.168818/
Succum Brewery (same as above, but with a few more light RPG elements; I really like it, but it still has a long way to go):
https://f95zone.to/threads/succum-brewery-v0-2-9-6a-limejuicegames.134566/
Mature Quest (it's intentionally old school and kinda long in the tooth, but it's got the right idea):
https://f95zone.to/threads/mature-quest-v1-1-t-soft.1214/
Star Knightess Aura (one of the games I've supported via Patreon. It's really great in its tech, its mechanics and its RPG elements - I'm just not a fan of its type of corruption - not because it's slow and sparse, which doesn't bother me - but because I don't like turning the protag into a dummy):
https://f95zone.to/threads/star-knightess-aura-v0-38-0-aura-dev.76764/
Ashley the Pirate (it's a tad stale for me, but a lot of people seem to really like it):
https://f95zone.to/threads/ashley-the-pirate-v0-5-0-1-yioruyioru.58083/
One last addition:
Some of these games really benefit from realtime upscaling with something like Magpie (I like to combo Anime4K UL + Jinc, don't forget to change the preset accordingly and then set it as the default):
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Go to his profile posts for F95, if they are not deleted, where he starts replying to everyone and calling them piss-babies and all that. That or hang out in the fast chat.
This release with his attitude toward patrons made me cancel my subscription to him. I understand he wants to make his own game and doesn't want to shackle himself to the will of patrons but he is rude and obnoxious and his game is no longer good. Zero reason to stick around. Was funding it before just because I loved the game and world design. This "update" closed off the entire game world and reduced it to a menu. Old music is gone from what I can see and the old scenes that you had to explore to find are just the next thing you get to unlock when you get to a new "level."