Fogoly

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I still can't understand these serious emotional attachments at some ppl to a cartoon girl. But even after all this time, the essence of the game is still not clear to every1. It's not explicitly a NTR game, but neither a harem. It's the mix of these two genre, and it calls swinging, where the MC and the maids are free to have sex with others.. This is what the game has been about since the beginning, and will remain so in the future. But even with the pin, there are always such people here who trying to turn this into a (only) harem game by pressuring the dev, where just the MC alone has the right to infidelity, and fuck with every1 on the planet.... But unless the dev decides to throw in trash his whole idea so far, they will try in vain..
 

Riujin

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*Pats shoulder* Feel better? ^^
Definitively, thanks ^^



And for the Tastes thing and getting yourself a bit "too much emphasis" for a game... well there are people that play sad NORMAL games and cry on those: The vanishing of Ethan Karter, what remains of Edith Finch. If there weren't people that enjoyed putting themselves into things and getting empathic with them, those kinds of products would not have any market!

Not only... Even some NTR guys don't enjoy a game where they cannot get "Empathic" with the girl to see her "Sealed" away from them and get morally hit by it... So yeah, people are indeed different, and its true that it would be "comfortable" to detach themselves from things.. But that even how they enjoy things in first place, detaching themselves would bring no pleasure.
I'm one of those for example, I don't get attached to things, but If the game/TV show/ Game/ book don't turns on my inner switch I'll never build up interest for it
 
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DAPhoenixXV

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I cannot get the Gloryhole / VIP room to work at all no matter what I do.

Everything else is complete but no one ever goes in them.
 

EquinoxGG

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I wish the ntr would occur without the MC explicitly giving consent through the item. Such as with the sports fans they could corrupt and invite the gf to the sports games without the MC knowing about anything going on. I love this game and the concepts throughout it but I feel like the ntr would be better if the MC was unknowing instead of being a full on cuck. 10/10 game though.
 

Fogoly

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I wish the ntr would occur without the MC explicitly giving consent through the item. Such as with the sports fans they could corrupt and invite the gf to the sports games without the MC knowing about anything going on. I love this game and the concepts throughout it but I feel like the ntr would be better if the MC was unknowing instead of being a full on cuck. 10/10 game though.
I think rather the opposite. The NTR games mostly exciting because of the MC's reaction. However, if everything happens behind him, then the emotions such as pain and jealousy will not play a decisive role in the story. I could say that anyway the whole NTR becomes weightless coz that saying comes into life, what you don't know it doesn't hurt.
I’m not saying the MC's consent is the solution in every case, but he needs to know about the cheating in some form.
 

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In v0.7.23, even if you closed down the gloryhole, sometime clients ended here for some reason. Is that corrected in v0.7.24?
 

Rugerrell6

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I'm not here flaming... crying, or whatever because there is too much sharing or NTR in this game. I don't care, I'm personally do not liking how the whole thing is coming up, but that's not because of the NTR/sharing side of things.

That's said, I truly do not understand how people can blindly accuse a game, without understanding its context or the game itself; nor I do understand how people can blindly defend it, completely deciding to skip every possible small "things" that could be simply improved or that might lead to confusion.

What I'm talking about?

This comes from the game DESCRIPTION:

You can be the owner of a cafe where your customers will feel at home, have pleasant conversations with the maids and drink coffee in peace, while you learn more about your maids. If you spent enough time with them, they even might develop a romantic interest in you.

(...)

While talking with your maids you can encounter some sweet scenes, where you learn more about them, maybe a funny event where something stupid and cliche happens. But if your maids get lewd and your relationship with them is deep enough, scenes can get more and more risky and sexy.

(...)


Now, before some start screaming at me: HEY! They talk about sharing too! YES I know, just the next paragraph after that starts talking about sharing and things in that genre.
THIS can be misunderstood;

Not enough? The game had different tags until some time ago, the HAREM one was between them.
THIS can be misunderstood;

Still not enough? When you first RUN the game, you get welcomed by adorable and wonderful slow-burn story-driven scenes, where you slowly get to understand and to know the girls, having fun chats with them and things like that, without a REMOTE hint of sex or sharing in the first place if not a wholesome setting with a wholesome cast.
THIS
can be misunderstood;

Again? Not enough? In the early parts of the game, it contained a lot of more "vanilla" wholesome scenes, where you slowly got intimated with the girls. The sharing part was already there but felt somewhat more "soft" compared to the quantity that we now have and on the typology. (You barely get "intimate" with your maid, in a slow-burn process, wherein their sharing scenes they literally go total whores with gangbangs)
This can be misunderstood.


Am I here to flame the game? No, I'm not;
Am I enjoying the current, updates? Not really, as I would have preferred a more slow-burn and realistic process (ops, I'm not complaining about the sharing side of things)
Am I complaining about the game? NO. Does the game sell? The dev is happy? I'm more than happy for him and, without crying and flamming him in ancient Latin, I'll simply wait to see how the game goes and see if it will still be appealing to me after some time, if not, I'll simply move on with my way.

Then... Why I'm writing all of this stuff?
1 to answer your post

2 .... Is it really that hard to stop blindly accusing or defending a game without even a hint of trying to acknowledge what is there and what could be POSITIVETELY suggested to improve the game and the general atmosphere of the community?
Yea what u say is true but of course the game is going to start out that way so you can learn about the characters their personalities and some of their background. Once that stuff is introduced you start to get to the real Meat and Potatoes of the game which is the maids servicing the customers to better further the business. The game is literally called "Secret Care" Cafe meaning the maids are giving some secret care to the customers to increase business and to have some fun. Sergil the MC gets in on the fun as well cause honestly who the hell wouldn't? And when your job is to seduce customers everyday its only natural that the girls start getting corrupted or rather more invested into their jobs and relationships with the customers. No matter what way u look at it the game is about running a lewd cafe with slutty maids. There is some vanilla stuff in there but its not the focus.
 

fabulous007

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the game is about running a lewd cafe with slutty maids.
Exactly my thought. It honestly feels like the natural outcome that they become promiscious with the clients.
There are several hentai stories like that, with waitresses in a maid cafe, it's always for the same purpose lol. Not saying the vanilla has no place, and it's the wish of the dev that there's a vanilla path anyway. But you can hardly be surprised that the netorase part is very important.
 
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The game is great gameplay-wise, but in terms of sex it's disappointing. Someone said that this game is a slow burn corruption game... Really?

First, I focused on Rai because I find her the most attractive girl in the cafe. The first sex scene with her and MC was okay, it happened after some time, after improving relations with her, it felt good and natural.

Same with rich boy as corruption/sharing path. It all made somewhat sense.

But then those sudden gangbang scenes with triple penetration happened... What the hell!?
This game has really nice written dialogue and characters, but this scene and another one (with the soldier twins) are really bad in my opinion. Too rushed, too hardcore and unrealistic as hell. Rai which is a tough nut to crack, suddenly have no problem to be penetrated by 3 guys (2 guys in the butt wtf!), and being recorded at the same time...

If someone tells me a story like this, I would answer: go to the rehab, you are overloaded with the porn, dude.

It looked like Dev lost control over his horniness and wrote a scene in an extremely horny teenage manner.

That was really dissapointing.

Next, I'm gonna check what Dev prepared for other girls. The future is uncertain... hahaha.

The game is really fun to play though, one of the best on F95 zone. But those scenes I've mentioned earlier could use some rework, to make more sense overall.
More animated scenes and love for backrooms could be good too.
 

Fogoly

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The game is great gameplay-wise, but in terms of sex it's disappointing. Someone said that this game is a slow burn corruption game... Really?

First, I focused on Rai because I find her the most attractive girl in the cafe. The first sex scene with her and MC was okay, it happened after some time, after improving relations with her, it felt good and natural.

Same with rich boy as corruption/sharing path. It all made somewhat sense.

But then those sudden gangbang scenes with triple penetration happened... What the hell!?
This game has really nice written dialogue and characters, but this scene and another one (with the soldier twins) are really bad in my opinion. Too rushed, too hardcore and unrealistic as hell. Rai which is a tough nut to crack, suddenly have no problem to be penetrated by 3 guys (2 guys in the butt wtf!), and being recorded at the same time...

If someone tells me a story like this, I would answer: go to the rehab, you are overloaded with the porn, dude.

It looked like Dev lost control over his horniness and wrote a scene in an extremely horny teenage manner.

That was really dissapointing.

Next, I'm gonna check what Dev prepared for other girls. The future is uncertain... hahaha.

The game is really fun to play though, one of the best on F95 zone. But those scenes I've mentioned earlier could use some rework, to make more sense overall.
More animated scenes and love for backrooms could be good too.
It is one of my fav. game on this site too, but I admit a few part of the NTR really needs some rework. I don't want to be look like a perpetual complainant, but even if we are talking about NTR it shouldn't necessarily just consist of pointless fuck fest. I played this game more then half a year ago, and I don't know if it changed, but it even bothered me then the whole NTR part only came out just as side, mini events. But the bigger problem rather was that we were the one who decided when to unlock, on the 20th or 120th day ...not too realistic ...and since we are talking about mini-events, the most important thing is missing from them, the "builds up" and a long meaningful story...
Unfortunately the NTR events not connected with the main story, and it just depends on the pin when it starts, that’s why we get sometimes such unrealistic stories like Rai's.. But this game isn't bad with this way either, and I plan to return at v0.7.26 ..but maybe it would have been better if we could choose after a certain point between harem or NTR directions, instead of getting these side NTR events..
 
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fabulous007

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But then those sudden gangbang scenes with triple penetration happened
I think the dev's aim is to make those scenes very late game scenes. That's why he made those clients "rare" as opposed to other ones, so that we get the other client scenes beforehand (for now most don't have scenes). So that the transition is smoother.
Personally I like those scenes, but I agree they it feels like that happens a bit suddenly (even if for the 3 jocks with Cynthia it was even more sudden in the past, as it was the first client scene created for her, now at least you have the other client beforehand). Well I like that the corruption becomes out of hand at some point though, in the long run I think it fits the girls that seemed really perverted deep down (even if only Cynthia was open about it, Cookie is like that (she admits it) despite her appearance and how she acts kind of "innocent", and Mai is fucked up in her own "way" from the start, so it's really just Rai that had a sudden turn, and even then it's suggested she's a bit of a pervert that simply ignored it (or hindered that part of her), probably because of her education).
 
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pb999777

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So uh, anyone have problem with RAM usage of this game? i think its using too much. Have 8GB RAM and game decided to use 6GB of it while im seeing gallery.
 

rgnar62

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Exactly my thought. It honestly feels like the natural outcome that they become promiscious with the clients.
There are several hentai stories like that, with waitresses in a maid cafe, it's always for the same purpose lol. Not saying the vanilla has no place, and it's the wish of the dev that there's a vanilla path anyway. But you can hardly be surprised that the netorase part is very important.
Can you share some of those hentai stories with maids and waitresses with me please? Preferably netorase
Thanks in advance!!
 

flynn0426

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I still can't understand these serious emotional attachments at some ppl to a cartoon girl. But even after all this time, the essence of the game is still not clear to every1. It's not explicitly a NTR game, but neither a harem. It's the mix of these two genre, and it calls swinging, where the MC and the maids are free to have sex with others.. This is what the game has been about since the beginning, and will remain so in the future. But even with the pin, there are always such people here who trying to turn this into a (only) harem game by pressuring the dev, where just the MC alone has the right to infidelity, and fuck with every1 on the planet.... But unless the dev decides to throw in trash his whole idea so far, they will try in vain..
Exactly. That's why this game is so good and unique, is because it is a blend of harem and netorase where you comfortably enjoy sharing your girls and watching the three of them be sluts for you while still loving and adoring you, without the bullshit of humiliation that most ntr games have for the mc. All these people always bitching about the netorase in this game are pathetic, and I hope Alex never buckles to their incessant whining.
 

leathermax

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I for once, would like this game to have a bigger emphasis on the erotic content. Like adding a skin with the waitresess nude. Also, I find a bit dissapointing seeing Cynthia in her standing pose in the bikini skin "tanning" completely naked, only to have her bikini reappear when you order her something. Also, I think it'd improve the gameplay if the game stopped whenever you got an erotic scene with the customers. That way you can enjoy it to your heart's content without losing on the custormers' service.
 
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