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Tragic Princess

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Well I'm all caught up now and the first thing I want to address is Coral's tits... Have they always been this big? Holy moley. Moving on, Leanne scene was a topic of discussion as were Irene's about being lackluster and even though I do feel they were a tad bit brief I still enjoyed them both. I didn't find anything "rushed" about Leanne's scene because I think that scene fits her personality, nothing too flashy she just wanted to get it done and over with it.
 

ghjghjghj

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What in the world is with the random "pick a bunch of random right options or die" shit? is this the dev's way of telling us a walkthrough is literally required to play? I mean what the fuck. May as well just integrate a walkthrough mod in the base game if you want to do this kind of idiocy. Has any single player ever encountered one of these dumb things and thought to themselves "fuck yeah, that's great!"? I'd be shocked if there was even one...
 

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What in the world is with the random "pick a bunch of random right options or die" shit? is this the dev's way of telling us a walkthrough is literally required to play? I mean what the fuck. May as well just integrate a walkthrough mod in the base game if you want to do this kind of idiocy. Has any single player ever encountered one of these dumb things and thought to themselves "fuck yeah, that's great!"? I'd be shocked if there was even one...
Don't really know what you are talking about.
But fuck yeah, this game is great.
 

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What in the world is with the random "pick a bunch of random right options or die" shit? is this the dev's way of telling us a walkthrough is literally required to play? I mean what the fuck. May as well just integrate a walkthrough mod in the base game if you want to do this kind of idiocy. Has any single player ever encountered one of these dumb things and thought to themselves "fuck yeah, that's great!"? I'd be shocked if there was even one...
This is a game with choices. Picking the wrong choices have consequences when it comes to the girls, in terms of missing out on points.

So there had to be different consequences when playing a maze game that had nothing to do with the girls. The consequences that I thought made sense were a game over. Maybe you would do it differently, but this is the way that I chose to do it. And there's only 3 game over choices when this game has aroundk 50 choices overall.

If it was too difficult for you, you can indeed use a walkthrough for those 3 choices.
 
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There is a bug in V7
The label U7 is defined twice, at
File "game/U6.rpy", line 2273 and
File "game/U7.rpyc", line 1.
 

DrakoGhoul

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I got the 2 scenes i was missing now for this update. For the Coral photo i think i missed an early game point but I'm not sure which one it was specifically. I started over and got it this time.

As for Leanne. It was the points from this update. I loaded my saves before starting over and tried different combinations and it was the first choice from this update and i think the drink. I got the scene and boy let me tell you there's nothing like unloading a creampie inside your sister.

So now i finished my restarted playthrough and hopefully i didn't accidentally mess up the other points along the way. It'd be a vicious cycle of starting over every update if i did :ROFLMAO:.
 

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This is a game with choices. Picking the wrong choices have consequences when it comes to the girls, in terms of missing out on points.

So there had to be different consequences when playing a maze game that had nothing to do with the girls. The consequences that I thought made sense were a game over. Maybe you would do it differently, but this is the way that I chose to do it. And there's only 3 game over choices when this game has aroundk 50 choices overall.

If it was too difficult for you, you can indeed use a walkthrough for those 3 choices.
Not to rain on your parade, since this is a really great game, but random choices without hints that lead to a game over are never a great gameplay choice. If you get hints about which way is the right way it would be ok, but a game in a game giving a complete game over makes no sense at all. Luckily that part was over quick...
 

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Not to rain on your parade, since this is a really great game, but random choices without hints that lead to a game over are never a great gameplay choice. If you get hints about which way is the right way it would be ok, but a game in a game giving a complete game over makes no sense at all. Luckily that part was over quick...
That's the nature of the maze game. There are no hints, as to which way to go. It's random. Don't hate the player, hate the game =D
 
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ghjghjghj

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This is a game with choices. Picking the wrong choices have consequences when it comes to the girls, in terms of missing out on points.

So there had to be different consequences when playing a maze game that had nothing to do with the girls. The consequences that I thought made sense were a game over. Maybe you would do it differently, but this is the way that I chose to do it. And there's only 3 game over choices when this game has aroundk 50 choices overall.

If it was too difficult for you, you can indeed use a walkthrough for those 3 choices.
It's not about being difficult, it's about being fun. Just because you want choices to exist in the game, and you want consequences for choices, doesn't mean you need to insert annoying or un-fun aspects into the game. Randomly picking and getting thrown back to a title screen to reload, skip back, and try again, is both very un-fun and very annoying.

There are so many options. You could just not have choices there at all. You could also just not have a maze at all if you are going to insist on being 'philosophically pure' with respect to choices and consequences. There are many things that are not mazes, any of them are options. Though if you didn't have choices here, this would - by neccessity - hardly the only place choices could exist so I don't think the whole 'purity' thing rings true. You could even just make the consequences less severely unfun, like just a quick "oops, dead end, let's try again" bit.

There's really no reason at all to do things the way they are. It's really just one of the worst cliche bad designs you see in visual novel type games.
 

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It's not about being difficult, it's about being fun. Just because you want choices to exist in the game, and you want consequences for choices, doesn't mean you need to insert annoying or un-fun aspects into the game. Randomly picking and getting thrown back to a title screen to reload, skip back, and try again, is both very un-fun and very annoying.

There are so many options. You could just not have choices there at all. You could also just not have a maze at all if you are going to insist on being 'philosophically pure' with respect to choices and consequences. There are many things that are not mazes, any of them are options. Though if you didn't have choices here, this would - by neccessity - hardly the only place choices could exist so I don't think the whole 'purity' thing rings true. You could even just make the consequences less severely unfun, like just a quick "oops, dead end, let's try again" bit.

There's really no reason at all to do things the way they are. It's really just one of the worst cliche bad designs you see in visual novel type games.
Well, I think it's fine the way it is and have already explained why. I'm sorry you don't like it, but it's maybe 5 minutes out of a game that is around 2 hours long. There's a walkthrough like I said if you hate it that much.

You and one other person have complained about the maze game, and everyone else has said this is a great update and they really enjoyed it. So I can't take the opinions of 2 people over everyone else when everyone else seems okay.

if more people complain about the maze game then I will reevaluate it because obviously they are not having fun and that's not what I want.

I hope you understand. Thanks
 
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Last time I brought this up about Harem tag (yet still there) I've got facepalmed in 1 second. So not only the Harem idea changed mid game updates, but now we get gameover because wrong choices? Damn, I'm freaking confused.
 
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Last time I brought this up about Harem tag (yet still there) I've got facepalmed in 1 second. So not only the Harem idea changed mid game updates, but now we get gameover because wrong choices? Damn, I'm freaking confused.
There will be a harem route where all the girls do know you are dating them. And there will be some interactions, maybe they even discuss it, just no full-on orgy.
 

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There will be a harem route where all the girls do know you are dating them. And there will be some interactions, maybe they even discuss it, just no full-on orgy.
Finally, I can put my mind at ease and enjoy this beautiful game again. Sorry If I was a bit salty, but last time I've asked this didn't end well. Thank you very much and keep up the good work.
 

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Well, I think it's fine the way it is and have already explained why. I'm sorry you don't like it, but it's maybe 5 minutes out of a game that is around 2 hours long. There's a walkthrough like I said if you hate it that much.

You and one other person have complained about the maze game, and everyone else has said this is a great update and they really enjoyed it. So I can't take the opinions of 2 people over everyone else when everyone else seems okay.

if more people complain about the maze game then I will reevaluate it because obviously they are not having fun and that's not what I want.

I hope you understand. Thanks
I mean obviously it's up to you, but I'm curious about why you think the current maze implementation is fun. I honestly don't see how it could be enjoyable, so apparently I'm missing something. I would like to know what I'm not seeing here. I know you mentioned choices and consequences before, but that doesn't seem inherently and obviously fun to me - otherwise a scrambled combination lock would be a great toy - so, I assume I'm not getting something.

And it's worth keeping in mind that just because people like other aspects of the game and don't complain about this one doesn't mean they do actually like it. As you say, it is a relatively small part of the game, so I wouldn't expect general purpose praise to necessarily include this exact scene. This kind of thing has showed up in a great number of games and I've only ever seen criticism of it so I'd be a little surprised if most of the people playing your game specifically were so different.

At any rate, I really appreciate you being open to discussing this stuff!
 

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About my previous post. I downloaded what I thought was an update to this game, as it was called Secret Summer - Chapter 2. Turns out, it was a completely different game about twins who parent-trap and switch places. LoL. Can't find it on this forum, though. Got it through a different site. Oh well. Between the two, this one is 100% better.
 
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