VN Ren'Py Seducing the Devil [v0.12c] [DeafPerv]

[DeafPerv]

I think the old Madison was drop dead gorgeous. She had the beauty but also the evil side behind that beautiful face.

The current one just looks straight evil.

I'll try to bring the old one back. Not much content is available with the new one.

 

[DeafPerv]

3rd day of trying to restore the original look of Madison. Think I'm very close.

 

[DeafPerv]

Madison - Remodeled

This is what I've managed to create after many tries and as close as I can get to the original one.

Turned out pretty good.

Looks incredibly attractive now.

 

[The ArcKnight]

Here's some teasers of the initial rough port. Disregard some of the sizing issues and whack coloring. It's picking those up from the VN defaults and still need to be tuned up. I'll work on the GUI for a bit while I debate on whether I deal with the VN's string variables as the are or completely rewrite the dev's scripts so they are proper. I'd seriously rather not do the latter as that would inherit that responsibility for every update going forward and a boatload of work. Anyway here's a few teasers (I'll add more later):

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A quick look at SanchoGallery, not sorted yet but showing quick ability for sharing/non-sharing variants:

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A quick look at dynamic ChoiceGuide in action (I'll clean it up, it has my notes in it for tracking paths currently). These change depending on previous choices made and a more recent addition to SanchoMod. In this example this is what happens in Ep1 after just the MC's shower "jerk off or don't" choice before the end of the episode: (I realize the pics aren't all that clear due to smaller text, but if I upload the 4K images they bog down the post)

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Oh gods please, please, please make this a thing.
This game is so confusing on its points/paths it absolutely needs a Sancho Mod, you do such good work it would make this game so much more accessable.

I am on episode ...6 and find myself more and more lost with every decision I make.


Until the mod is ready...Is there a walkthrough? I am trying to find the best path for a happy harem but ended up at a scene with Madison fisting Ella...
Well if I ever wondered if Ella was a virgin, that cleeearly dispels that.
Is there a path that avoid this or is the "just look away so it only happens off camera" option.

I don't mind Madison licking/tonguing Ella, I just draw the line when it comes to dicks and dick like things before the MC has even been with her.

 

[BYK370]

hey guys i was wondering does this game has plenty of lesbian content? if not much i will skip this game thanks in advance

 

[desmosome]

Apparently, it's been 2 years since I've played this lol. I cannot remember the details about Rachel. Currently, I am here.


Could someone explain everything about Rachel that we learn up to this point? I remember there was a bunch of mind fuckery going on. She is his mom, but she birthed the devil in some dream land... and MC keeps calling her Rachel despite the patch, and at one point, Devil daughter referred to Rachel as MC's wife... I just need a refresher on the whole thing about Rachel, the goddess, devil daughter, and MC.

edit: Btw, OP says old saves won't work, but my saves from September 2019 are working just fine? Will I run into problems later?

 

[civick]

Here's some teasers of the initial rough port. Disregard some of the sizing issues and whack coloring. It's picking those up from the VN defaults and still need to be tuned up. I'll work on the GUI for a bit while I debate on whether I deal with the VN's string variables as the are or completely rewrite the dev's scripts so they are proper. I'd seriously rather not do the latter as that would inherit that responsibility for every update going forward and a boatload of work. Anyway here's a few teasers (I'll add more later):

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A quick look at SanchoGallery, not sorted yet but showing quick ability for sharing/non-sharing variants:

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A quick look at dynamic ChoiceGuide in action (I'll clean it up, it has my notes in it for tracking paths currently). These change depending on previous choices made and a more recent addition to SanchoMod. In this example this is what happens in Ep1 after just the MC's shower "jerk off or don't" choice before the end of the episode: (I realize the pics aren't all that clear due to smaller text, but if I upload the 4K images they bog down the post)

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any update on the wt mod

 

[Canto Forte]

Working on seducing the devil is no easy task, mind you.
Give it time to fester and bloom with throbbing success.

 

[gambit1337]

Hey, new on this thread, i see the game has an ntr tag, in what form is it in the game? is it avoidable?

 

[Canto Forte]

MC is of the bloodline of demons and the demon in charge of you all will have vested interest in MC
and in his babes all throughout this game. Goodness gracious she is a wonderful woman
but she does get her way with everyone. Everyone!

Hey, new on this thread, i see the game has an ntr tag, in what form is it in the game? is it avoidable?

 

[Sancho1969]

any update on the wt mod

All my cards on the table: Good morning. I'm currently finalizing another major project and this one is still on the list (that's the plan anyway). Please note that, up to this point, this one has been simply a side project but I will continue as it was specifically requested by a friend. I admit that I've never even played this VN and it really isn't something that I would normally produce. That friend received a tech demo (beta) of the mod in late December that's complete through the first episode but still needs more foundational work before proceeding with route plotting of the remaining episodes. I truly still need to sit down and map it all out before continuing with the code tbh. I also need to get more enthusiastic about it since I know, like all but two other mods I publish publicly, this one is going to be another heck of a challenge.

Right when I pushed out the demo to that friend during the holidays other devs started dropping updates to other VNs I mod so I was obligated to update those (I worked each day through Christmas and New Year holiday coding, yep, vacationed on the beach for the holidays and spent the whole damn time coding) and finish the next two large projects I had previously started (LeapOfFaith which is now done and currently UniversityOfProblems which is near completion). I've honestly worked my ass off the last few months and I'm supposed to be retired

It's because of that friend's request and the challenge of this VN that I will get to it again and hopefully sooner rather than later. That's really all I can tell you at the moment. I'll keep you folks posted. Regards.

 

[Balthasar-Gelt]

All my cards on the table: Good morning. I'm currently finalizing another major project and this one is still on the list (that's the plan anyway). Please note that, up to this point, this one has been simply a side project but I will continue as it was specifically requested by a friend. I admit that I've never even played this VN and it really isn't something that I would normally produce. That friend received a tech demo (beta) of the mod in late December that's complete through the first episode but still needs more foundational work before proceeding with route plotting of the remaining episodes. I truly still need to sit down and map it all out before continuing with the code tbh. I also need to get more enthusiastic about it since I know, like all but two other mods I publish publicly, this one is going to be another heck of a challenge.

Right when I pushed out the demo to that friend during the holidays other devs started dropping updates to other VNs I mod so I was obligated to update those (I worked each day through Christmas and New Year holiday coding, yep, vacationed on the beach for the holidays and spent the whole damn time coding) and finish the next two large projects I had previously started (LeapOfFaith which is now done and currently UniversityOfProblems which is near completion). I've honestly worked my ass off the last few months and I'm supposed to be retired

It's because of that friend's request and the challenge of this VN that I will get to it again and hopefully sooner rather than later. That's really all I can tell you at the moment. I'll keep you folks posted. Regards.

 

[Sancho1969]

... and so it begins


I'm going to start from scratch since the core mod was updated this past month (due to requirements of my last three mods of major titles).

If anyone has started a pathing tree they'd like to share then by all means I verify it's accuracy but I've never played this VN so mapping it out might take a bit of time (and I have to get into the dev's coding groove which I can already tell from the double-spacing and mass non-boolean variable usage this is going to suck).

My initial reaction is this won't be a challenge so much due to choices but rather fighting to efficiently manage the unorthodox variable usage. Looking back I wrote about this here. I sincerely hope the dev takes a look at that post as it's just one example of many here that will make their coding life one helluva lot easier to deal with.

As always I'll keep y'all posted with the good, bad, and ugly. Regards.

Edit: Never mind on the path tree, choice route isn't as bad as it first might appear (I'm about to double check all my notes but I reckon I've got this locked down). The first 4 paths remain the primaries and the v9 "who to take" are secondaries, reverting back to primaries somewhere in v10+. Again, I've not played the VN so I surely might have missed something at first read but just tracing it all out for the port planner.

 

[Sancho1969]

DeafPervs good afternoon. If you don't mind I'd like to help point out massive coding inefficiencies you're using that will result in poor habits and possible severe aggravation during debugging phases.

I'll draft here but a few examples that start right at the beginning. I'll help you build an exhaustive list but this is just a few:

• Declare ALL of your variables' defaults during load and before label start. This is basic and will potentially save you so much grief that I can't even stress enough it's importance. A prime example is the first variable the player encounters (besides inputting their custom name) is $ boner during the "jackoff" choice. This (and all other variables) are never defined defaults before their introduction and is considered very bad form... don't do that.
• Logical conditionals can be very efficient and don't need to be isolated for each case. An example while you're checking for the patch existence:

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• Consider boolean or integer variables in lieu of string variables.

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• There's so much more but I really need to get started on this project.

Please take no offense as that is not the point nor intent of this post. I've been requested many times to write a SanchoMod multi-mod for your title and (if I do indeed proceed) that automatically (in my view) gives me a vested interest in both you and your product being produced to it's best. I'll respect your wishes and if you truly feel I'm out of line with this type of dialogue then I'll speak no more of it. Kind regards.

 

[Sancho1969]

OK folks, here's the initial major forks I'm finding off the bat. First one at beginning then chance to change in v9 (ep8). I put the standard SanchoMod alerts to inform the player that a save at these points might be worth their consideration. Naming convention may change, the event names (purple) are OEM, the Route names (blue) I've done temporarily according to the first DevilAppear orders. The choices also introduce the player to SanchoMod's dynamic ChoiceGuide which automatically changes the guide according to previous choices (I don't rewrite the scripts at all, I only code them):

Setup to let the player know that choice is of importance:


First major branching choice:


If jerked result:


If just showered result:


v9 (Ep8) chance to change major fork:


I'll start working on E2 on filler while this post has time to be seen here. If I'm off base (again, I've not played this VN yet so need to stay 100% accurate while remaining efficient) with the branching then please let me know. Thank you for your input and regards.

 

[Dopplyn]

Just to confirm. Version 0.10 saves don't work in the new version?? I tried to pick up where I left off but the game just ends up in the same place.

 

[Sancho1969]

SanchoMod A quick update.

It's basically all done. The mod port, the ChoiceGuide (minus small tweaks needed for Ep9/10), the stat screens, the options, all except the damn SanchoGallery. This VN has a boatload of scenes! It's actually taking me longer to professionally code in the gallery then it was to write the guide. I currently have it thru Ep8 w/ over 25 scenes. It's time for a Crown&Coke but know that we're getting close. This certainly isn't a VN I'd normally SanchoMod but nonetheless I'm taking zero shortcuts. This will be of the quality you've become accustomed to, I refuse to release slacky garbage. As always I'll keep you posted.

Some fresh teasers (prepped for release previews, you might see these later in imminent mod thread):

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[DeafPerv]

DeafPervs good afternoon. If you don't mind I'd like to help point out massive coding inefficiencies you're using that will result in poor habits and possible severe aggravation during debugging phases.

I'll draft here but a few examples that start right at the beginning. I'll help you build an exhaustive list but this is just a few:

• Declare ALL of your variables' defaults during load and before label start. This is basic and will potentially save you so much grief that I can't even stress enough it's importance. A prime example is the first variable the player encounters (besides inputting their custom name) is $ boner during the "jackoff" choice. This (and all other variables) are never defined defaults before their introduction and is considered very bad form... don't do that.
• Logical conditionals can be very efficient and don't need to be isolated for each case. An example while you're checking for the patch existence:

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• Consider boolean or integer variables in lieu of string variables.

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• There's so much more but I really need to get started on this project.

Please take no offense as that is not the point nor intent of this post. I've been requested many times to write a SanchoMod multi-mod for your title and (if I do indeed proceed) that automatically (in my view) gives me a vested interest in both you and your product being produced to it's best. I'll respect your wishes and if you truly feel I'm out of line with this type of dialogue then I'll speak no more of it. Kind regards.

It's completely fine. I'm all up for suggestions.
I'll have to rewrite many of the variables and clean up the codes. I've started following a pattern in writing the recent variables by adding the scene number.
Don't really have a background in computer language other than a 3 credit course So, many of the terms that I may see are alien to me.

I've done the codes in however way it worked at that time and just carried on.

 

[Sancho1969]

I'll have to rewrite many of the variables and clean up the codes. I've started following a pattern in writing the recent variables by adding the scene number.

Unless you personally intend to completely rewrite then I suggest not changing old variables but at least declare them initially (I've actually done this for you in the mod but I have them declared in the mod's scripting, not the OEM). Then you can write proper boolean variables going forward as/if you wish. I have the ability to quickly change old variables from string to boolean/integer via a custom macro I wrote in Python which won't be hard for me to do for you since you truly are only dealing with two dozen variables currently (some of the complicated VNs I mod that no one else will touch have literally hundreds of variables and can be quite complicated to rewrite which is why most don't).

Tell you what: If I get time once I am done with the mod and get it sorted for distribution I'll go back to your base scripts (unmodded), change all your variables to be proper and submit those scripts to you for review/use. If I'm that deep into it I can rewrite your conditionals (if statements) too to be more efficient. My time is somewhat limited right now due to end of year accounting requirements but I'll see what I can do for you if you'd like.

Regards.

 

[Sancho1969]

A prime example of SanchoMod's dynamic ChoiceGuide in use:

Previous choices generally always determine outcomes (obviously). In all other WT mods you generally only get static information which might be fine in some instances, but in more complicated conditionals they simply fail. This is where dynamic ChoiceGuide steps in and takes the bull by the horns. The guide changes depending on the player's previous choices so they not only know what will occur if they make the choice, but what might be missed and what is required for other outcomes. In the example below let's evaluate what scenes will be populated depending on previous and current choice:

For baseline, here's the frame with ChoiceGuide disabled (SanchoMod is fully customizable so if you don't want spoilers or otherwise see the guide then simply turn it off):


Here is the frame letting the player know what will occur given their previous choices. Note the second choice information:


Here is the same frame where the player made other previous choices and the guide dynamically changed to give the player proper information as required. Again, note the second choice information:


Pretty cool, right?

Full disclosure: The ChoiceGuide can only be so accurate when a VN is not yet complete. Some outcomes cannot yet be determined for (hopefully) obvious reasons. In those cases the mod will throw an alert to notify the player that it's likely a good point to create a save in case they later find that they would have preferred to have made another choice. I've shown examples of that in previous posts here so I won't rehash that... just placing that info here for full information. Here's a reminder screen example though:


Regards.