T51bwinterized

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Eh I was tired, plus I thought it was funny. So I rolled with it. XD
I had a laugh. You're good.

I somewhat agree, somewhat disagree. & I say that because I do agree, ethics is the heart of the matter. I'm not sure if you skimmed over my post as it was rather lengthy, or read it through in full. If you skimmed, I do ask that if you have the time, please read through it in full as I think there is a lot to unpack from it. The main 2 points I was trying to emphasize is as follows though. 1, the nature of the bond between Rowan & Helyana specifically & 2, the cost of the choice. Now with the 1st, & this is why I was so verbose in fleshing out the specifics on this, there are a lot of components as to why that bond is important. In modern times. If you were to take say a Marine from say... Fargo North Dakota, & a Green Beret from Mobile Alabama Whom have never even met before, put them into a room together, they would have instant kinship over that shared bond of being military service men right? Now these are 2 otherwise complete strangers. Keep that in mind.
Now let's expand on that. Let's take an Army Ranger, let's say of Sargent rank, whom is reunited with their drill Sargent from when he went through basic training & AIT. & let's say that Sargent mentored the Ranger through his earlier days in the service. Anyone whom has served in the military will attest that bond between the 2 is very deep & akin to that of a father and son.
Now add to that the strong role that honor, duty, discipline & integrity play in their lives. How pride & dignity in their role as a soldier is a core facet of their very being.
Now add to that how in the era of history that this story is set in, how these elements were still not only there but arguably much stronger. This is why I emphasize how meaningful the pre-existing bond between Rowan & Helyana is. & I should have emphasized this before but it was late & I was very tired, but that bond is & should be a platonic bond, not a romantic one, much like the earlier mentioned Army Ranger & his former Drill Sargent. One more of kinship, family & brotherhood. This is important because it also would be further reason why Rowan would NOT want to fuck Helyana as that further feeds into stripping her of her dignity & integrity as a solder.
& that is why this one specific point in the game is the one where I personally think the narrative could use some fine tuning. I mean these are all things that Alexia would logically take into consideration as she is fully aware of them, & especially if, depending on how the game is played, if she already had to commit other acts of her own breaking their marital vows in the pursuit of doing what she thought she needed to, (i.e. to protect Rowan, to get Andreas to translate that one book, etc...).
So with this context in mind, we need to consider why Rowan really had no choice even though he "technically did have a choice". Again, I think we can all agree, leaving Helyana to the orc pile would have been a fate worse than death, as was her servitude under the twins. This is why, if you look at it from Rowan's perspective, There really is no choice. HE had already wounded her deeply through his act of betrayal in siding with the twins in the attack on the keep under her care so he is already carrying massive guilt & shame from not just turning against everything he fought for just years prior, but also how deeply his betrayal devastated someone whom was akin to a daughter to him. Add to that the fact that after all but destroying her emotionally & psychologically through his betrayal, because of the ring that Jezera or whatever her name was put on her finger, Rowan now is forced to choose between either taking her into his care & having to do some things that he finds distasteful due to the state Jezera put her in, or abandon her & leave her to a fate that, as I've already said, would be worse than death. Given the nature of whom Helyana is to him, if you were in his shoes, would leaving her be an option to you? OF course it wouldn't. So yes, there truly is no other option in this case. & it's clear throughout the scenes with Helyana that Rowan is not liking what he has to do. So I think these massive contextual areas that currently are just swept under the rug need to be better fleshed out. There needs to be an option to factor those in. Additionally, there needs to be an option for Alexia to react appropriately to Andreas as well. I'm sorry but her lack of outrage is a massive plot hole.

To put it simply, I'm not asking for options to be taken away from the NTR fanboys or anything like that, just options added in that account for these massive context holes for those of us whom care more about character & plot integrity than about fap material. Now maybe my perspective is different because I have multiple partners of my own so I don't really use these games as a sexual outlet. So the erotic content is more or less irellevant to me. However I do know there are others that care a lot about story & character integrity. So I think it's warranted to ask that these matters be reviewed and perhaps fine tuned if that is doable. Thanks.
...I'll get to this one tomorow. XD
 

Slappy Kinkaid

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I've been up for 13 hours and it is release day. I'd need a look at it at another point.
Please do when you can. I think you will see the logic & merit in what I say plus I would hope you would agree it would make for an all around better game. The game is great already as it is, but from a character & plot perspective, I hope you would agree.
 

johlem

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I really like this game and the evolution of it,
But I think it might be a good idea to incorporate a little "prologue" quest into this story. Before the twins cross the path of Rowan and Alexia

This would allow Rowan to be played as a hero, and would increase the player's feeling of playing has a "fallen hero" (if it can be considered as such xd).

it would also increase the chance and the opportunity to appreciate Alexia, because although she and Rowan have been married for a long time, as a player we do not have the feeling to know her more than the other png, and that It's a shame because of the different events that focus on this character afterwards, which have less impact than it should be.

Of course it's just a small detail, but I really think that's missing at the beginning of the game.

sorry about my english^^
 

RC-1138 Boss

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The main focus this month was focused on adding the final path to the Orciad narrative, rescuing the captive Lady Eleanor Delane. In order to achieve this, the player must put work into planning the escape, and if things go wrong, it can lead to a tragic ending.
In addition to the Orciad content, we also continued working on our Fey narrative, which sees Rowan having two choose between two opposing factions; the shadowy Midnight Court, and the bestial Red Sun Alliance. We have added three more events that introduce characters you’ll be seeing more of in future.



ART

Since we hit the pledge goal for six CGs, this month we have four new CGs by momdadno, and two by Sommelier, covering a variety of different fetishes..

Included are:

- Andras x Alexia (NTR)
- Rowan x Liural (Rough)
- Jezera x Alexia (Femdom)
- Jezera x Rowan (Femdom)
- Dazzanath x Agatha (Nun)
- Andras x Rowan (Gay)



NEW EVENTS

Once again, as the focus has been on the Orciad, most of the events this month are related to content that was needed to finish the last narrative path. These include, events where Rowan goes on raids to find gifts for Lady Delane, events where Rowan plans for the escape, and the escape proper.

In addition to Orciad content, we also have three new Fey narrative events, as well as two new Ruler events, three new Room events, and a new maid Job event for Alexia.



This month we have four new sex scenes:

- Rowan x Emma
- Rowan x Delane
- Rowan x Alexia x Liurial
- Shaya’s solo performance

That’s it for today’s update! Version 0.2.36 of Seeds of Chaos is downloadable for Patrons pledging $5 and up.

Not interested in any of the new scenes, guess I'll skip this update as well.
NICE! :FeelsGoodMan::FeelsGoodMan::FeelsGoodMan:
 

Slappy Kinkaid

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I've been up for 13 hours and it is release day. I'd need a look at it at another point.
Hey I just tried replaying the game on the 0.2.34 build to see if it crashes in those areas on this build too. I just got to the part where Rowan first gets to the who'sawhatsit keep... Fuck it. Fraggle Rock keep, I don't remember. XD, where he first meets Helyana in the game & based on the dialogue, it seems to indicate that Helyana is Rowan's neice. If so, this lends even more support to my argumentation.
 

Heliophorus

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Hey I just tried replaying the game on the 0.2.34 build to see if it crashes in those areas on this build too. I just got to the part where Rowan first gets to the who'sawhatsit keep... Fuck it. Fraggle Rock keep, I don't remember. XD, where he first meets Helyana in the game & based on the dialogue, it seems to indicate that Helyana is Rowan's neice. If so, this lends even more support to my argumentation.
She's a niece of the local lord, not Rowan.
Also, thanks for the update. Most of new cg's are not my thing, but I'm glad we got Rowan x Delane scene.
 

seden

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Played the game near launch, was not a lot of content so decided to wait and now .. Its becoming quite good, knowing the poussive result as the checks are near all to high (on android, using the back button) it is possible to see that the ratio is below 1/20.

This à good story, even if the events spawn is more bad than good, this even having put 1 point to luck each level (should have quite some weight it is not?).
 

TheSexinati

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I see Jezzera learnt from the 'Emperor Palpatine' school of magickery. :biggrin:

Hopefully she won't have an army of clones... A deathstar (Or two)... or some big-ass black triangular spaceship called the Eclipse which coincidentally also has a deathstar laser-beam...

Actually, now that I think about it, those sapphire Amulets are actually Sith amulets, aren't they, I'd say perhaps from the Hyperspace-war period...

This is not merely a porn game, this is actually a Star wars game! :eazyHype::eazyHype::eazyHype::eazyHype:

- Andras x Rowan (Gay)
- Jezera x Rowan (Femdom)
- Rowan x Alexia x Liurial
Damn you Seeds of Chaos team, giving me these unnecessary erections. Do you know how inconvenient it is to walk around with a boner at Noon! :p
 
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I really like this game and the evolution of it,
But I think it might be a good idea to incorporate a little "prologue" quest into this story. Before the twins cross the path of Rowan and Alexia

This would allow Rowan to be played as a hero, and would increase the player's feeling of playing has a "fallen hero" (if it can be considered as such xd).

it would also increase the chance and the opportunity to appreciate Alexia, because although she and Rowan have been married for a long time, as a player we do not have the feeling to know her more than the other png, and that It's a shame because of the different events that focus on this character afterwards, which have less impact than it should be.

Of course it's just a small detail, but I really think that's missing at the beginning of the game.

sorry about my english^^
This isn't a bad idea at all, but it should probably wait until the main game itself is complete.
 
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Neo001

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guys in caravan the goblin shop the items seems like some kind of pages... are they kind of blueprint? either way they are too small to read..... and same stuff is in forge too .... do you know about it?
 
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guys in caravan the goblin shop the items seems like some kind of pages... are they kind of blueprint? either way they are too small to read..... and same stuff is in forge too .... do you know about it?
Placeholder art for equipment, I believe
 
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