manscout

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It feels like if I choose to cheat the disposition of the MC and the wife doesn't change. As if the choices I make don't change the interaction I have between the MC and his wife.
I feel if the game isn't linear the dialogue choices and interactions should vary throughout the game given the game's primary focus is NTR.
I'm not sure if not far enough into the game or something but I keep playing through and avoiding sex scenes with the MC and I'm curious if its even worth it both contextually and mechanically in the game.

Edit: The biggest red flag for me is the secretary, where you can get a blowjob under the desk. My thoughts were "There just no fucking way this event is flagging the MC as unfaithful".
I haven't played the game in a while, but I recall it having a flag for if Rowan had sex with anyone that isn't his wife. I don't think it gets used a lot yet but it might change some minor bits of dialogue here and there. I would say to not expect much unique content to such a route, but the devs are aware of such a possibility.
 
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T51bwinterized

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Is there any way to have NTR with the sister and not the brother?
Yes. There is a long Jezera NTR route with numerous scenes that does not require Andras NTR. In fact, you can only pick one of the two siblings.

that sound like a yes to my question :cry:
Last time I checked, official NTR content made up about 25% of the total game content. There's another 5% or so consensual swinging. Altogether about 75% of the content will still be available with NTR of.

Like mentioned previously though, Seeds of Chaos has hundreds of H-scenes. If you exclusively count scenes of Rowan having sex with Alexia or other people the total number is hundreds of scenes still. No, you do not have to worry one iota about the game being too small or short without NTR.

I haven't played the game in a while, but I recall it having a flag for if Rowan had sex with anyone that isn't his wife. I don't think it gets used a lot yet but it might change some minor bits of dialogue here and there. I would say to not expect much unique content to such a route, but the devs are aware of such a possibility.
Yes, most of the distinction is just that the player will be on the low corruption route. We do have such a flag but it's rarely used. Instead, low corruption flags will be used more often.
 

nodice20

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This is a game I keep coming back to and then losing, getting frustrated and then coming back to again. I will admit the dev has done a great job of making characters interesting and certainly loathsome (the twins are still particularly vile, I hate them which I think is the intent!) though I want to know as someone who has been tripped up by the game mechanics early and often has the game become more 'easy' in recent builds and I have never gotten to a point where I feel Rowan has any actual agency, do that ever change?
 

Rein

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It feels like if I choose to cheat the disposition of the MC and the wife doesn't change. As if the choices I make don't change the interaction I have between the MC and his wife.
I feel if the game isn't linear the dialogue choices and interactions should vary throughout the game given the game's primary focus is NTR.
I'm not sure if not far enough into the game or something but I keep playing through and avoiding sex scenes with the MC and I'm curious if its even worth it both contextually and mechanically in the game.

Edit: The biggest red flag for me is the secretary, where you can get a blowjob under the desk. My thoughts were "There just no fucking way this event is flagging the MC as unfaithful".
I shall ponder on it later.

But the game is reactive, but limited. The main thing you have to keep in mind is imperfect information. While both Alexia and Rowan can cheat, 90% of the time neither is aware of it. There are exceptions, of course.

Claim Helayna to see the main one.
 
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Medak

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So did the devs say anything about the story ending or their long-term plans?
I played it a while back, dozen or so updates and I liked it, but I would like my next time to be playing a finished, story completed game.
So does anyone have any information about that?
 
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mannice431

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This game has NTR (got it), but you can turn that off and boink whoever you want right?

Or does turning NTR off also turn off other scenes?
 

Ranting Old Man

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This game has NTR (got it), but you can turn that off and boink whoever you want right?

Or does turning NTR off also turn off other scenes?
I'm also curious about this. Can I shut NTR off but still cheat or swing? Or is it you can't have your cake and eat it too.
 

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I'm also curious about this. Can I shut NTR off but still cheat or swing? Or is it you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Yes, you can. Or, y'know, you can also play as a faithful, loving pair too. ;] But yes, you can turn off NTR and still do those other deplorable things if you really must.:p
 

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I have a lot of love for this game (in spite of not being an NTR sort of guy, there is so much content even if you turn that off). But I'm a sucker for the 'turn the table on the bad guys' story so I am keeping away from it until - hopefully - there will be some kind of development in that sometime in the future.
But for any newcomers, I do suggest trying out this game, even if NTR is a bit of a red flag. It isn't forced on the player.
 

Ranting Old Man

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I have a lot of love for this game (in spite of not being an NTR sort of guy, there is so much content even if you turn that off). But I'm a sucker for the 'turn the table on the bad guys' story so I am keeping away from it until - hopefully - there will be some kind of development in that sometime in the future.
But for any newcomers, I do suggest trying out this game, even if NTR is a bit of a red flag. It isn't forced on the player.
NTR isn't really a "No" for me. I don't mind it if it's done in a way that feels more real and less porno. My issue generally is NTR is done in such a way normally that just breaks me out of the Immersion of the story, then I generally quit playing. I walked away from this game a long time ago but it was fairly new back then so I figured I should give the game another try. But being able to shut it off if it just hits me the wrong way would be a great incentive to try again.
 
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NTR isn't really a "No" for me. I don't mind it if it's done in a way that feels more real and less porno. My issue generally is NTR is done in such a way normally that just breaks me out of the Immersion of the story, then I generally quit playing. I walked away from this game a long time ago but it was fairly new back then so I figured I should give the game another try. But being able to shut it off if it just hits me the wrong way would be a great incentive to try again.
Well even with it turned on you can still make choices that avoid most of if not all of it. So you can play with NTR on and still avoid it. I haven't played in a few months so I don't know if anything has changed in that regard.
 
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