John Smith_98

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Is there a character named Roisin in game? There seems to be some images of her fucking Alexia that I found on rule34. Is she a scrapped character?
 

rivon

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Nyx is a new writer, and he's been primarily writing the latest Indarah events, and the new Ophelia content.

The purpose of the rewrites is to add a more... Streamlined Helayna experience? we're ending with a character that adds a immense amount of variables to a game that already struggles with the overabundance of them.

So the rewrite had a two goals in mind:
- Expand on the Raeve segment, which, compared to some of the later content, is a little barebones?
- Trim the fat off Helayna's plot - remove the mutliple choice background, and... Well you'll get to see what exactly has been done to the planned Helayna's paths.
*Sigh*
I was afraid this gonna happened.
This basically confirms my worst concerns. After your collective decision to go on with this goblin and fey subplots it was already obvious for me that the game plot become too bloated to manage, but it only became apparent to you after two years of fiddling with this new plotlines.

After this realization sunk in to your brains, some parts of the story inevitably will end up on the butcher block...and Helayna plot line shelved for over 2 years promised her exactly that fate.
What can i say... its truly a shame.
I would honestly prefer you pick up Helena then some new writer.
I have doubts they are the same quality as old writers.
Pity Winter is not going back.
 
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HentaiGamerN00b

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*Sigh*
I was afraid this gonna happened.
This basically confirms my worst concerns. After your collective decision to go on with this goblin and fey subplots it was already obvious for me that the game plot become too bloated to manage, but it only became apparent to you after two years of fiddling with this new plotlines.

After this realization sunk in to your brains, some parts of the story inevitably will end up on the butcher block...and Helayna plot line shelved for over 2 years promised her exactly that fate.
What can i say... its truly a shame.
I would honestly prefer you pick up Helena then some new writer.
I have doubts they are the same quality as old writers.
Pity Winter is not going back.
I share your fears but as far as the new plot isn't done it's difficult to judge, we can only hope that they do not tend to reduce too much Helayna as a mere fuck doll, because in that case it would be better to kill her at sight or sacrifice her to some kind of old forgotten heretic dark god given the chance, so, the thing is, the new writer need a chance to be proven with one of the third characters more loved by the players, if the plot is bad, well, the "Shitlords" as Rein calls them will have more shit to trow...
 
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Rein

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Nyx's skill with the quill is undeniable, as far as prose goes, it's absolutely laughable to compare my mediocre english to his. (even though I still think I'm better at hitting the right emotional beats.)

While plot bloat is obvious, the basic premise of Helayna update has been decided a long time ago. It would not be right to have a character like that reduced to a mere cum-rag.
 
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HentaiGamerN00b

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Nyx's skills with the quill is undeniable, as far as prose goes, it's absolutely laughable to compare my mediocre english to his. (even though I still think I'm better at hitting the right emotional beats.)

While plot bloat is obvious, the basic premise of Helayna update has been decided a long time ago. It would not be right to have a character like that reduced to a mere cum-rag.
I'm afraid that we are not worry about his writing skills, but about his understanding of that character and how she affect Rowan and Alexia as MC's they are, specially with Alexia, worry if he understand why lotta players have her in high esteem more than Alexia (a character that players can interact in different ways to choose her destiny in contrast to Helayna who is often a victim of circumstances way far of her control). Her struggle to not fall into complete madness and her potential that rival with one of the most waited characters in next Act, Magical Alexia. I ignored how much her story will change, if we can still free her (by Rowan or Alexia's choice), if it'll be added the choice to confront her in Raeve Keep and kill her before she fall in the hands of Da Twins or if it'll reduce all the content for her to being trap and all the interactions will be inside Bloodmeen, don't know, i'll wait for the update when it's done to judge that, what's truly worry is if he understand all that, considering a character that at the moment it was release it was in a sense a nobody, but the building of her character and complexity of her person and overall story gain the heart of many players, even over the importance of Alexia.
 

aykarin

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From what I remember, several years ago Lord Arioch wrote (probably in one of the status updates) that there is a high chance that some of the choices regarding Helayna (such as what is her relationship with Rowan) will be removed in order to give her more fleshed out background and personality. So cutting some choices connected to Helayna is not a new thing. It was planned for a long time. Personally, I like Helayna a lot even though she is not among my favorite characters. I hope she gets to play a big role in the game that extends to the later arcs.
 

Gicoo

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Yikes, seven years and we are still at the first map? How complete is this game? 30%? 10%? Looks like it forseakes a streamlined story and just bungles with sandbox content all over the place.

Patreon gives 12k every month, so from the developer's perspective everything is running smoothly. Good for them.
 

Lyblak

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It's kind of hard to catch up with the game. I don't know which things are done and aren't.
I just found thie dragon-ogre girl called Ygriss and the quest chain ends suddenly without a conclussion? I can either side with the driad and the quest chain ends or decide to "let them fight" and the quest chain ends there too. Am I doing something wrong? Am I missing anything?
 

Goading

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I recently just got through a few playthroughs and I really enjoyed the game. You guys have done a fantastic job thus far and I'm excited to see where it leads.

I found an old post about the unfinished Act 1 Jezera events and I have a suggestion.
Jezera’s plot is not for people who want Maledom, it’s for people who want to be dominated by a sexy, toxic, whimsical demon mistress.
This is understandable, but personally some of the best moments from her events are the dom options, such as when he's breaking in Madeline whilst staring her down. While is seems obvious that Jezera's main desire is obedience, there must be some part of her intrigued at his own will and constant defiance. This unbelievably captivating demoness has men and women falling down at her feet to let her have her way with them. I doubt she has ever been challenged, not in a way Rowan can. It must be at least slightly alluring.

So this was basically the premise – a plot where Rowan can be both a bitch boi and a proud hero standing true against the darkness.
Why does the motivation for resistance have to come from heroism? I know he's a hero but it feels a bit inconsistent if you've been playing a very corrupt Rowan. It would make a lot more sense to have two options in the "dom" path, one for the righteous and one for the fallen. I'd argue the second motivation should be desire. It's established that Rowan is very attracted to Jezera, because on two seperate occasions he was brought to orgasm faster by fantasising that his partner was her. He seems desperate to have her, but he wants to take her on his own terms. "It should have been Jezera. One day it will be Jezera." - Rowan fucking Madeline whilst staring at Jezera.

If you're not playing heroic, Rowan is a conqueror, and I'm not talking about land here. He continuously conquers cunt with his colossal cock. He's strong, handsome, and has almost everyone salivating over his mere existense. It's hardly a challenge for the Hero of the Six Realms to get some. Why wouldn't he wish to tame the wild, unruly, blisteringly beautiful demoness and make her submit? His biggest challenge since killing the demon lord. Maybe she would never allow it because of her selfishness and desire for complete control but a man can still dream, a man can still try. I'd absolutely love to see her broken down slowly but I doubt that is what the devs have planned here.

I understand that the Jezera route is already difficult due to all the different variables, but if you could consider adding an option for resisting her out of a desire to dominate instead of just a sole heroic path i think it would really round out that side of the route for the two different kinds of players. I know my fellow maledom fans would appreciate it. Either way keep up the excellent work, I eagerly await to see where you take the story next.
 

brorpag

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I recently just got through a few playthroughs and I really enjoyed the game. You guys have done a fantastic job thus far and I'm excited to see where it leads.

I found an old post about the unfinished Act 1 Jezera events and I have a suggestion.

This is understandable, but personally some of the best moments from her events are the dom options, such as when he's breaking in Madeline whilst staring her down. While is seems obvious that Jezera's main desire is obedience, there must be some part of her intrigued at his own will and constant defiance. This unbelievably captivating demoness has men and women falling down at her feet to let her have her way with them. I doubt she has ever been challenged, not in a way Rowan can. It must be at least slightly alluring.


Why does the motivation for resistance have to come from heroism? I know he's a hero but it feels a bit inconsistent if you've been playing a very corrupt Rowan. It would make a lot more sense to have two options in the "dom" path, one for the righteous and one for the fallen. I'd argue the second motivation should be desire. It's established that Rowan is very attracted to Jezera, because on two seperate occasions he was brought to orgasm faster by fantasising that his partner was her. He seems desperate to have her, but he wants to take her on his own terms. "It should have been Jezera. One day it will be Jezera." - Rowan fucking Madeline whilst staring at Jezera.

If you're not playing heroic, Rowan is a conqueror, and I'm not talking about land here. He continuously conquers cunt with his colossal cock. He's strong, handsome, and has almost everyone salivating over his mere existense. It's hardly a challenge for the Hero of the Six Realms to get some. Why wouldn't he wish to tame the wild, unruly, blisteringly beautiful demoness and make her submit? His biggest challenge since killing the demon lord. Maybe she would never allow it because of her selfishness and desire for complete control but a man can still dream, a man can still try. I'd absolutely love to see her broken down slowly but I doubt that is what the devs have planned here.

I understand that the Jezera route is already difficult due to all the different variables, but if you could consider adding an option for resisting her out of a desire to dominate instead of just a sole heroic path i think it would really round out that side of the route for the two different kinds of players. I know my fellow maledom fans would appreciate it. Either way keep up the excellent work, I eagerly await to see where you take the story next.
absolutely agree, feels like alot of scenes actually build towards what you are suggesting.
 

wqe

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Too much story for goblins, that actually not needed. And let's be honest, most don't care at all. Especially after marriage sex scene. Why not to focus on Alexia and Helanya instead? Two characters you wish to watch for their relations and get nothing. Especially Alexia x Andras/ Also nobles, who already have some relations. Why not to write some story about them as potential allies for future rebel war? Clionha with her scenes at te beginning as your mistress. Meh
 

Oriandu

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Alexia already has plenty of content and Helena is in the process of being updated. Even if that wasn't the case, the team making Seeds of Chaos is not supplicant to the desire of this forum or even their patreon supporters for that matter. Their vision for the project is more important than what people want and if they view the goblin quest line as important then it gets focused on. They're making a game not a porn slideshow.

Besides, I'm pretty sure there's an audience for short stacks with big tits.
 

JoeSte91

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I would argue that they are absolutely beholden to the people supporting them with real money.

However, if those people aren't dropping out of supporting the project because of the attention to the goblin storyline, or even the projected timeline of development, there's no reason for the devs to think that anyone actually has a problem with it.

This forum has no power, the people with money do, but they are choosing not to exercise that power, for one reason or another.
 

Goading

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Too much story for goblins, that actually not needed. And let's be honest, most don't care at all. Especially after marriage sex scene.
I think you underestimate peoples desire for a goblin harem. Why have one delicious fruit when you can have the whole basket? Sure, you may not enjoy fruit but would you really want to deprive the world of it for that reason? That would be a level of selfishness to rival the twins.

You may believe that the story is “not needed” but at the end of the day that’s just your opinion. I really like the goblin story so far and I’m looking forward to the wedding and seeing how it unfolds, if it even happens that is. I think some shit may go down with Che-Lin or Zii-Zii to prevent or mess up the whole thing if you choose to side with either one, maybe even both team up together with you to take down Tue-Row and Tue-San. There’s lots of possibilities here.

Regarding the Helayna updates, I really hope that her kink is still Rowans overwhelming virility and dominant sexual power. Her fantasy scene is glorious.
 

rivon

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However, if those people aren't dropping out of supporting the project because of the attention to the goblin storyline, or even the projected timeline of development, there's no reason for the devs to think that anyone actually has a problem with it.

This forum has no power, the people with money do, but they are choosing not to exercise that power, for one reason or another.
Well Arioch is actually really unhappy his game is not as popular as say Taffy tale.


"Business isn't great at the moment (this is going to be the worst Patreon month of the year so far), so I don't want to make any extra investments until things improve. File under maybe something for the future."

Seeds of chaos have strong points:
1) one of the best art in lewd game industry
2) good writing team (not a fan of some new writers but hey they can grow)
3) strong main characters
This helped mitigated damage done by delays in development and less popular side quest they've been pushing for last 2 years. 123.PNG
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But facts are facts, game fan base stop growing.
Unpopular choices have clear side effects on revenue for them.
 
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