Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.08] [Vénus Noire]

[Fleep]

It is more that somethings are just odd in hindsight depending on player choice. I had Alexia sleeping with Andreas and others and had Rowan being the same, yet if she sees Helayna coming in...she gets pissy and speaks about vows.

I mean what. And the humiliation part is...meh, hard when Rowan keeps fucking everyone he finds.

I'm talking about Andras intentions, not that it would work.

I get what you mean about some things being odd. Scenes like the one you mentioned can be odd and illogical, but they do happen. People would sleep around and then get mad when their partner does the same.

 

[Chinel]

I'm talking about Andras intentions, not that it would work.

I get what you mean about some things being odd. Scenes like the one you mentioned can be odd and illogical, but they do happen. People would sleep around and then get mad when their partner does the same.

TBH I wouldn't have a problem if the narrative did recognize that bit of hypocrisy from her part.

Actually? It would be pretty fun if she is all okay with sleeping with Andreas that has a SEX SLAVE and see no issues pleasing him with said SLAVE and is all angry with her Husband having Helayna...as a Sex Slave, but in which dunno, Jezera or any other character just comes in, hear her complaints and is all 'woman, tf you are even, you sleep with a demon guy/my demon brother with sex slaves and you are angry your husband has one? WTF.'

Or better.
Have Fucking Andreas being all 'Whaaat' about it. Because we know that he is the type of going 'debase on your DEEEEESIRES, fuck 'morals'.' kind of guy...

 

[Chakas]

I'm also primarily interested in the Alexia/Andras path, but I'm concerned: does this mean if you continued down the path Alexia would stop being Rowan's wife? I admit that the path would lose a lot of its interest for me there. I think it would turn Alexia into not much more than one of Andras' many sex slaves with nothing to make her stand out from the crowd.

I'm a bit disappointed that Alexia's path for both twins, but especially Andras, has been just that of sex slave. I saw someone earlier complain about this for Jazera but I think it's also true of the Andras path. Alexia just submits way too quickly. I liked the original opening more when she had sex with him out of being tricked and then hated him but was aroused by him nevertheless and was slowly being seduced by him. Once she had sex with him it's like there was a missing scene where she just agrees to become Andras's sex slave. Even at the end of the box event she's more demanding than a slave would be and the hint at the end that Andras still needs to do some work seducing her (but that she would be back) was titillating, but this jumped straight into Alexia being a sex slave. I wouldn't mind this as a path but I think a slower corruption of Alexia into cheating whore would be hot.

I also really enjoyed the hints from Rowan's perspective that something might be going on between his wife and Andras. That was half the appeal but those have petered off. The idea that Alexia could freely go to Andras's room if they're living apart and he can never visit her room or even her floor, so he would never know if she had done anything with Andras except by castle rumor, was erotic as hell. I'd love to see more of it or even a Rowan investigation subplot, which could lead in a number of directions.

I realize this is work and NTR isn't the most popular but this is one of the few games that really scratches that itch and I'd be one of the happy minority to see a more complex story in that area. I have my own tastes but having more options than just a choice between Andras or Jazera for NTR (like whether she becomes a sex slave or something more (or less!!)) would be really nice. Rowan's reaction would also be good, because NTR is about all the relationships and characters involved including the cuckolded husband. Being able to choose how Rowan reacts to this to help decide the eventual outcome would be nice.

Obviously that's really complicated since that's two to six Rowan NTR states combined with two to six Alexia/Andras states, just for an NTR subplot that a lot of people dislike, but I'd love to see it.

Perhaps it'd be possible to just track all of those with a combination of variables (e.g. a cuckold stat for Rowan to track how much he likes or hates it) and events and the final outcome are decided by the combination of stats. I don't know if that would save more work than having saved states that combine with each other. Broad categories (two or three different versions of a scene in terms of CGs but minor variation in dialogue and outcome) combined with said stats might also work. Just spitballing because I'd really like to see a more comprehensive NTR subplot than just whether Alexia becomes a sex slave to which twin.

Agreed, I'm also concerned about Alexia/MC not being an couple anymore, which would take away a huge part of the appeal from the NTR route.

I Also think that Alexia being more in a Love/Hate Andras relation, hinted at the first scene, is a more exciting path than just becoming a sex slave.

But yeah, NTR is a very disliked fetish in here (to the point of people turning down a game even it is avoidable) so I don't think the extra work would offer much benefit to the devs. I do hope Alexia and MC remain a couple tho, they're great together despite the hardships.

 

[Zallow]

Hi guys, do you know if there will be any content in the future with marianne ? Idk, maybe just Rowan cleaning the statue for month and then it becomes a cute story. The world of this game is too harsh so please let us have some fluff in it

 

[Rein]

Any news?

Updates are every 2 months. next update is 31.07.2022

Hi guys, do you know if there will be any content in the future with marianne ? Idk, maybe just Rowan cleaning the statue for month and then it becomes a cute story. The world of this game is too harsh so please let us have some fluff in it

Yes, but not this year.

 

[litamagsin]

Updates are every 2 months. next update is 31.07.2022



Yes, but not this year.

What will this update add to the game?

 

[Rein]

More goblins, more Jezera, maybe some Fae?

 

[rivon]

What will this update add to the game?

Some Nuns/ Apparently Helayna step sister or smth..

 

[Chinel]

Some Nuns/ Apparently Helayna step sister or smth..
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Oh hey. That is great.
Nuns are good civ.

 

[rivon]

Oh hey. That is great.
Nuns are good civ.

The convent of redhead vixens.
With soft spot for under powered heroes in peril.

 

[Chinel]

The convent of redhead vixens.
With soft spot for under powered heroes in peril.

I am starting to think that maybe Rowan's true girl might be Helayna

 

[monk_56]

I am starting to think that maybe Rowan's true girl might be Helayna

It was ever thus. Helenya supremacy!

I'd dunk Alexia off Mount Doom for Helenya- and Helenya's plot is like three years old with minimal character development.
Not that the dev's can really afford that much multi-state- but I would. If they ever need a character to NTR Rowan away from Alexia there is no one who would work better than Helenya.

1) She has a certain Soldier's camaraderie with Rowan that Alexia could only have if she got significant character development via a training arc.

2) The two women are polar opposites in a lot of ways that favor Helenya for a stereotypical Het-male player.

~Helenya's plot and characterization favor a 'hero' type player who wants to harem build and resist chaos. Alexia's plot and characterization favor a 'corruption' type player who wants to experience NTR and a fall from grace of the female MC into a heartless bimbo mega-slut.

~Alexia's entire narrative seems to be about giving into corruption. If you don't she is just stagnant and has very little character growth. (Maybe this 'pure Alexia' arc can triage that- I'll remain optimistic; but it might be too short to really accomplish anything in comparison to Alexia's game spanning corruption arcs.)

Helenya is defaulted to a baseline corruption tier via the ring- after the ring's influence loosens on her her arc seems to be about rehabilitating her / resisting chaos. The bulks of the two plots are moving in opposite directions.

~Hel doesn't cuck the protag if Rowan goes for her. Dealing with that ring cannot be easy; but regardless of that she persists in her faithfulness. She is very creative in how she deals with things as well- the scene in the weapons cabinet was great.

If it is a game day of the week that ends in 'y' Alexia is 5 seconds away from some flavor of NTR plot or vibe.

~Hel wants do something tangible and useful and struggles vs the ring to become a knight again
Alexia 'helps' by doing her jobs. Which ostensibly are just kink dumps- b/c the jobs are more or less used to shoehorn in a bunch of corruption scenes, not to do any sort of rebelling, helping Rowan, or helping herself out of her situation.

Alexia did have the magic arc- which was a hypothetical escape from her status quo- but that got axed.

~Hel does not suffer from jealousy issues. Quite the reciprocal in fact.
Alexia has the potential to be on a jealousy tier that scales from mostly justified to 'hypocritical bitch of the century' depending on player choices. At any rate- it is one of her most prominent vices and for w/e reasons only manifests itself tangibly in regards to Rowan.

 

[AVeryDarkLord]

I mean on any path where Alexia betrays Rowan with the twins, she's cheating on him with the people that kidnapped her. Then used her to get him to betray everything he stood for under threat of harming her. In fact fucking her is another way to get to Rowan. The twins barely value Rowan and he's genuinely useful, Alexia been seen as an amusement seems about right. So yeah fucking them and becoming a glorified sex slave for a while seems about right for what'd happen. Edit: Actually I think that's kinda the point, to show how corrupted she's becoming.

She can be a cheating whore without being a sex slave. Her initial presentation as reluctant seductee was much more compelling. The twins might see her as amusement but that doesn't mean Alexia has to give into it. In fact, if she's determined not to just be a sex slave that makes the story more interesting. I don't mind if she becomes really into the sex (far from it!) but she should retain her own character. Becoming only interested in sex with the twins becomes a reduction of her character. It's also just not what I'm personally into. Once she's just a sex slave she's not really more interesting than Andras' other sex slave.

It's a separate issue but it also seems like a weird jump to go from being reluctant to cheat at all to having sex with Andras (or Jazera) and then instantly being okay with being a sex slave. Being convinced to cheat and being convinced to be a sex slave are two different things. It makes it seem like there's missing content to connect it all.

The game has NTR but isn't an NTR game, there's a load of kinks which seems deliberate. There's no anal, gangbang or foot stat or bar to track Rowans preference. I don't see why NTR should be special.

That's unfortunately true. It's more that this is one of the few games that includes slowburn reluctant/dubcon cheating wife/oblivious cuckold content, and with a hot redhead like Alexia, so I can hope for more of it and more comprehensive design. I'd be tempted myself but have no idea how to make NSFW renders or how to use Renpy. Anal, gangbang, and even foot stuff is much better served. So I'm left to hoping Seeds of Chaos gives me what I want since I can't get it anywhere else. I know that's probably not going to happen though, but I can hope.

 

[AVeryDarkLord]

Agreed, I'm also concerned about Alexia/MC not being an couple anymore, which would take away a huge part of the appeal from the NTR route.

I Also think that Alexia being more in a Love/Hate Andras relation, hinted at the first scene, is a more exciting path than just becoming a sex slave.

But yeah, NTR is a very disliked fetish in here (to the point of people turning down a game even it is avoidable) so I don't think the extra work would offer much benefit to the devs. I do hope Alexia and MC remain a couple tho, they're great together despite the hardships.

I completely agree. If she's not Rowan's wife anymore it's not really NTR anymore, just his ex shacking up with another dude. Then you're just left playing a more vanilla story with Rowan. And plus hate-fucks and I-hate-you-so-much-but-can't-resist-you cheating are much hotter than if it's Alexia just falling for a better guy.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

It was ever thus. Helenya supremacy!

I'd dunk Alexia off Mount Doom for Helenya- and Helenya's plot is like three years old with minimal character development.
Not that the dev's can really afford that much multi-state- but I would. If they ever need a character to NTR Rowan away from Alexia there is no one who would work better than Helenya.

1) She has a certain Soldier's camaraderie with Rowan that Alexia could only have if she got significant character development via a training arc.

2) The two women are polar opposites in a lot of ways that favor Helenya for a stereotypical Het-male player.

~Helenya's plot and characterization favor a 'hero' type player who wants to harem build and resist chaos. Alexia's plot and characterization favor a 'corruption' type player who wants to experience NTR and a fall from grace of the female MC into a heartless bimbo mega-slut.

~Alexia's entire narrative seems to be about giving into corruption. If you don't she is just stagnant and has very little character growth. (Maybe this 'pure Alexia' arc can triage that- I'll remain optimistic; but it might be too short to really accomplish anything in comparison to Alexia's game spanning corruption arcs.)

Helenya is defaulted to a baseline corruption tier via the ring- after the ring's influence loosens on her her arc seems to be about rehabilitating her / resisting chaos. The bulks of the two plots are moving in opposite directions.

~Hel doesn't cuck the protag if Rowan goes for her. Dealing with that ring cannot be easy; but regardless of that she persists in her faithfulness. She is very creative in how she deals with things as well- the scene in the weapons cabinet was great.

If it is a game day of the week that ends in 'y' Alexia is 5 seconds away from some flavor of NTR plot or vibe.

~Hel wants do something tangible and useful and struggles vs the ring to become a knight again
Alexia 'helps' by doing her jobs. Which ostensibly are just kink dumps- b/c the jobs are more or less used to shoehorn in a bunch of corruption scenes, not to do any sort of rebelling, helping Rowan, or helping herself out of her situation.

Alexia did have the magic arc- which was a hypothetical escape from her status quo- but that got axed.

~Hel does not suffer from jealousy issues. Quite the reciprocal in fact.
Alexia has the potential to be on a jealousy tier that scales from mostly justified to 'hypocritical bitch of the century' depending on player choices. At any rate- it is one of her most prominent vices and for w/e reasons only manifests itself tangibly in regards to Rowan.

I think it depends on the perspective... If the player decides to be loyalty between the couple, this can be achieved (the game becomes a lot boring as hell in porn terms but possible), the Helayna Arc becomes part of the story for Rowan as a Tragic "Hero" in searching for revenge or retaliation or justice. Between the choices Rowan have to tell to Alexia respect Helayna condition and his feelings about her, I don't know if it is scripted but, it would be wonderful if by status Rowan can be more of a liar or at least honest and convincing when making a choice (specially in that part of the story), the reason is because maybe there could be an agreement between the couple to help Helayna, like Alexia x Helayna or Rowan x Helayna - Alexia or Rowan x Helayna x Alexia or even indeed The Minotaur "Friend" (sorry forgot he's name) x Helayna and whatever etc possible combination, hell you can include Xzaralt and the friend of Jezera if not initially but later depending if corruption advance between the couple and if the couple become NTR by agreement or maintain as much loyal but only NTR with Helayna. It would be a hell mess in variables but at the same time it would open up more some possibilities (specially the number of allies for next Arc II).

PS: Yes, "Hero" because I still not convinced >_>...

 

[pallisade_walls]

I can't believe monk_56 ate monkone to gain his powers. At the expense of the scene chooser too! how selfish.

 

[T51bwinterized]

789

 

[rivon]

That's unfortunately true. It's more that this is one of the few games that includes slowburn reluctant/dubcon cheating wife/oblivious cuckold content, and with a hot redhead like Alexia, so I can hope for more of it

advance between the couple and if the couple become NTR by agreement or maintain as much loyal but only NTR with Helayna

advance between the couple and if the couple become NTR by agreement or maintain as much loyal but only NTR with Helayna

Did we live long enough to see people complain they are not properly NTRed?!!
And not whiny soy boys cry they tuned off NTR and yet they feel cheated all the time (i bet even in real life)??
Andras living rent free in their heads.

 

[litamagsin]

Is there a way to increase the treasury? I can't seem to make it work.A cheat for it maybe?

 

[_The_Doctor_]

Is there a way to increase the treasury? I can't seem to make it work.A cheat for it maybe?

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