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Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.08] [Vénus Noire]
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Not just a guy, he's that guy in the AAA rpg that you only keep in the party to lockpick because he's literally useless at everything else but the game keeps giving you locked chests, the guy that forces you to reroll rogue because at some point you get sick of babysitting him and fuck him. He's that guy. And ngl pretty sure that if this game's protagonist was the big dicked paladin or the 20 char sorcerer (the non useless people in the party) everything would be way more enjoyable, even if you slapped a power removing collar on them (because they still wouldn't be behaving like bitches 24/7
)Since everyone is talking about the story, I'd just like to say that considering the way the first arc is structured, it's obvious we are playing a specific story with elements of freedom in it. Based on what everyone is saying, obviously those alternatives were not options, so the story has been decided and we are just visualizing the events in that story with elements of freedom that allow specific alterations, to create a story we can replay and see a slightly different outcome.
Rowan should've been able to escape with Alexia? Perhaps, but obviously that didn't happen and we are just seeing the results of that decision. It seems pretty clear the story has been decided to some extent.
I think the reason some people see Rowan as a cuck, is that the game does seem to encourage NTR content, which I'm personally ok with, but I can see the Non-NTR crowd having an issue with.How so?
While Rowan does have some encounters with Alexia throughout the game for example, they don't actually seem to have content to last the entire story. What do I mean by that?
You have sex with her a time here, a time there, as mandated by specific events and the level of her corruption (which is tough to raise unless she out there NTR'ing to some extent), but other than that, you can't really interact with her on a daily basis.
She has more interactions every day with every other character than she does with Rowan and that's her husband. Up until you decide to expand your harem, you see her every day but can't have repeatable interactions with her than just a small talk option. You have access to goblin action every turn though lol.
Once Alexia can get a job around the castle, she out there doing her thing, but with the exception of a few events here and there, Alexia and Rowan hardly have the option to see each other regularly. Why can't you swing by and have a round or two with the person who is supposed to be your wife?
Depending on your choices, she wants to have a baby, she may have decided to explore the world of being a futa, and whooping you to submission to fix your marriage and create a stronger bond between you two, but you don't necessarily get to see the outcome any of those decisions regularly with the person who is supposed to be your wife. They are one time experiences and then you move on. Why can't I keep having femdom action with my wife in privacy, perhaps invite our friend over? Why can't I keep having futa-fun alone or invite others? Why can't we try making a baby as normal straight people that are not submitting entirely to corruption? Why can't I enjoy my wife slowly being turned into a breeding bimbo again? Unless you agree to let her fall into corruption, Alexia can't tolerate other females around Rowan. If you DO let her fall into corruption, while she may be able to tolerate it, you can't enjoy your decision to allow it after the scenes are over unless you go view them in the gallery lol.
For the rest of the game though, depending on how you play, Alexia can keep having interactions with other characters. You finish one, you can move to the next and keep the content going until late game, when your only options for content are limited to goblin, etc etc, and you can't enjoy any of the previous decision making.
I think that's why the story has already been chosen, and everything between is just hints of freedom but not really. Once you finish the Grayhide content, does it affect either Rowan and Alexia? How so? After the scenes are over, the content is over and your decision didn't really seem to matter. Maybe that makes Rowan seem weak? I'd hope your decisions here will have clear consequences in act 2 at least.
Rowan should've been able to escape with Alexia? Perhaps, but obviously that didn't happen and we are just seeing the results of that decision. It seems pretty clear the story has been decided to some extent.
I think the reason some people see Rowan as a cuck, is that the game does seem to encourage NTR content, which I'm personally ok with, but I can see the Non-NTR crowd having an issue with.How so?
While Rowan does have some encounters with Alexia throughout the game for example, they don't actually seem to have content to last the entire story. What do I mean by that?
You have sex with her a time here, a time there, as mandated by specific events and the level of her corruption (which is tough to raise unless she out there NTR'ing to some extent), but other than that, you can't really interact with her on a daily basis.
She has more interactions every day with every other character than she does with Rowan and that's her husband. Up until you decide to expand your harem, you see her every day but can't have repeatable interactions with her than just a small talk option. You have access to goblin action every turn though lol.
Once Alexia can get a job around the castle, she out there doing her thing, but with the exception of a few events here and there, Alexia and Rowan hardly have the option to see each other regularly. Why can't you swing by and have a round or two with the person who is supposed to be your wife?
Depending on your choices, she wants to have a baby, she may have decided to explore the world of being a futa, and whooping you to submission to fix your marriage and create a stronger bond between you two, but you don't necessarily get to see the outcome any of those decisions regularly with the person who is supposed to be your wife. They are one time experiences and then you move on. Why can't I keep having femdom action with my wife in privacy, perhaps invite our friend over? Why can't I keep having futa-fun alone or invite others? Why can't we try making a baby as normal straight people that are not submitting entirely to corruption? Why can't I enjoy my wife slowly being turned into a breeding bimbo again? Unless you agree to let her fall into corruption, Alexia can't tolerate other females around Rowan. If you DO let her fall into corruption, while she may be able to tolerate it, you can't enjoy your decision to allow it after the scenes are over unless you go view them in the gallery lol.
For the rest of the game though, depending on how you play, Alexia can keep having interactions with other characters. You finish one, you can move to the next and keep the content going until late game, when your only options for content are limited to goblin, etc etc, and you can't enjoy any of the previous decision making.
I think that's why the story has already been chosen, and everything between is just hints of freedom but not really. Once you finish the Grayhide content, does it affect either Rowan and Alexia? How so? After the scenes are over, the content is over and your decision didn't really seem to matter. Maybe that makes Rowan seem weak? I'd hope your decisions here will have clear consequences in act 2 at least.
- Sep 3, 2022
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Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.01] [Vénus Noire]
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First of all, Gary Stu........second He downplays them because he has humility, you know a heroic trait. Thats not saying he some all powerful hero, but that does not mean he doesnt have heroic qualities. Even a regular joe can be humble. A lot of actual war veterans are like that.
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Some people would have you believe it's 50% of the game.
In truth... I'd say around 15%-20%? I don't know if the game holds up as a purely gay experience, but there's stuff.
I have said this before and I will say this again. Seeds of Chaos is a well made / crafted game that absolutely isn't for everyone and honestly I think that is the part that makes people angry about it. Your brain recognizes there is a level of quality here but you don't like the actual content, which is why people get irrationally upset about it, 'I recognize this is good, and if it were for this shit I didn't like I would be having fun wtf." But honestly, the shit you don't like is not going to to change and the dev has been super clear about that.
I get it I HATE Rowan and honestly I don't think this game for a lot of reasons that other people point out, but that doesn't mean it will ever change into something I do like.
I get it I HATE Rowan and honestly I don't think this game for a lot of reasons that other people point out, but that doesn't mean it will ever change into something I do like.
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Honestly I agree, from how Rowan has been portrayed, he seems like he is somewhat skilled yet... nothing spectacular. Everyone praises him as a hero, yet the nobles hate him. Whatever the story is trying to say about Rowan and his heroism I can't really understand it until I know what the hell he did to be singled out by the demons to be their champion.
Rowan is a pretty decent heroic figure for an h-game, peeps who think he's not need to reevaluate some things.
Off the top of my head I can consider him to be; Brave, Humble, Intelligent, Skilled, Resilient in the face of torture, and emotionally stable enough to not crack under the weight of everything he's dealing with.
- Aug 24, 2022
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Literally the entire point of Rowan is that he is smart and cunning. He is skilled in combat compare to the average soldier but that not what made him a hero in the war. He does the rogue job well hence why he uses guerrilla warfare to stall and weaken the demon forces. It also what allow seeds of chaos to be an interesting setting where decision have weight to each of them because of the disadvantage state Rowan is in.
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Looks like it! Come back next year. I stopped playing this game 1 year ago. There's just too many fetishes.
Perhaps we are from parallel universes, as he just saw Werden he surrendered to the idea of getting help too fast he went to Bloodmeen location without knowing what to expect, no less entered inside in complete ignorance without plan, attacked Da Sista when his intention is rescuing his wife (even if the player take the choice of not going after Da Twins). When he's put to work at the castle, his presence doesn't change too much the dynamic in there on how things must be done (except for the event in which Rowan can choose to comply with the mercenary over the Rights of an Orc over a conquered town). He isn't seen planning, supervising the trainings nor naming commanders under his orders to comply with formations necessary for the success of a former plan of his doing. That's the SoC version of Rowan i had to play.
Honestly, that's nice. In the game is possible to choose for him very humble options, but there are dialogs that hint that he don't have much trust in the nobility and moreover that he expected a better treat for him. I think he's brave when he's necessary to be, otherwise he just give orders. Skilled, yes, after being under attack against orcs, goblins, elves and humans and in many occasions survived without sweat, definitely is his better trait as much of this happened without the influence of random dice. About his intelligence, you can read my passed paragraph. Resilient... Well, Da Twins could be soft with him because they had planned to capture him in the first place. Emotionally stable... I don't know what to say, as the Hero of Solansia lose the chance to refuse to work for them and he did it for the sake of his wife, a wife that may be corrupted while Rowan isn't there to protect her, a woman who can be molded as a fuck toy for the entire Bloodmeen, so, he doom Solansia for the sake of his wife, doesn't sound too much emotionally stable knowing what Da Twins wanted from him under their service.
How he can be a Gary Stu? his actions rescuing his wife surpasses that test, in the end of this Act whatever his actions he just have half of Rastedel and he take allies with just one side, the commoners or the knights instead of having both togueter is (scripted) that decision that could may have worked better maintaining the safety of the city.
A real conservative would have written the word sexes instead of gender, that would be more accurate. But the thing is that this isn't the thread for discussions about that, is cosidered offtopic, just make use of the reaction button and choose something accurate to disaprove his post or ignore to let it die there. Otherwise you are calling the unwanted attention of modders who will gladly nuke several pages if necessary.
I stopped playing with the Cla-Min focused updates, so that's like 2 years ago? Is it gonna be 3 soon? I adore this game and can't wait to play it, but as you say, it's only occasionally that I get something that I like in an update (we've been getting Andras & Gobbos for so long now).
But I'm optimistic. I can see Gobblin city and Fae arc being done by summer next year, and Hel's arc probably too. I mean, that's like 5 updates, that's a lot of events. After that there shouldn't be much left to finish arc 1 right?
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You may have forgetting some redrawn events to suit the style in the entire game, some more gay scenes because there isn't enough of course, the introduction of a dragon girl (i can't recall correctly what the hell she was) who looks like a centaur that for now appears at random event (and may have be planned to make her appear after some conditions are set), the waited manly dominate's Rowan event over X'zaralt, and yes of course, the new mechanics, user interface and the fix, because Rein iirc said most major fixes will be done by the end because for now they don't want to break savefile compatibility for unknown reasons even after knowing that right now some events are suffering from some bugs that can't make them active anymore...I stopped playing with the Cla-Min focused updates, so that's like 2 years ago? Is it gonna be 3 soon? I adore this game and can't wait to play it, but as you say, it's only occasionally that I get something that I like in an update (we've been getting Andras & Gobbos for so long now).
But I'm optimistic. I can see Gobblin city and Fae arc being done by summer next year, and Hel's arc probably too. I mean, that's like 5 updates, that's a lot of events. After that there shouldn't be much left to finish arc 1 right?
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Well yea Rowan does do stupid decision in beginning but that more of the story needing a way to put him in this servitude state under the siblings also they kidnaped his wife which is def going to affect his decisions. However he is seek out by Jerzara cuz of his resourcefulness and understanding of tactics to survive and manage an army in unfavorable conditions. We see this throughout the entire game what with learning about the dynamics of the castle staff relationship to to use as leverage, understanding ideologies, creating favor through dealings, winning allies under the noses of the twin, figuring out how the necklace operates , and even multiple scene of rowan having practical knowledge such as when he is talking about application of plants as medicine when learning about poison from Jerzara. Tho I haven't played the game in a good while so maybe things have change and maybe I'm forgetting thing but for what I do remember is that Rowan is doing what a rogue should be doing.