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Hi guys,
Sorry for the long wait between the dev updates! I'm glad I was able to get the rework out of the way. I think I can still improve the dialogue in some other chapters, but I'll save that for another time!
Development of Chapter 5 has begun and I was able to lay out the Chapter's plans to the team. Everyone seems excited as things are heating up! The chapter will consist out of 3 main parts, with the beach being the largest part of it. The beach will also feature multiple sexual encounters, so that's something to look forward to!
I've got some amazing ideas and it'll be hard to pull them all off, but I'll definitely give it my all to give you a juicy update.
Thanks for the support and thanks for voting on the polls! I hope you all enjoyed the polls, I certainly did! I'm a bit sad the rainbow bikini won't make an appearance though.
-AbyssGames
Chapter 4 is absolutely terrible. I haven't had something make me hate men in all my life haha
SoA was on my favs list.. until ya shat out Chapter 4. WHY?
However. I already modded it for.. well.. uses... it has such potential I might just re-write that
entire chapter. News flash. We don't actually behave like that. Worst attempt at male jerk off
fanservice I have ever seen.
Before someone nerds up and defends it, I want SoA to be amazing. And it can be. But Chapter 4...
Is dousing your nuts in napalm and lighting a match. How much do you have to say slut in one chapter?
And I'm sorry to de-fantasize you, be we are territorial AF. No way is it believable at all that after Rob,
Alice would even consider sharing Luke with any one. And how fuggin thirsty are Sophie and Kate?
Quit writing us like we're gender swapped dudes. I know what tits look and feel like. I have them.
They don't amaze me like they amaze you. I have Gods gift of an ass, seeing another girl's ass doesn't
make me go stupid levels of horny like a dude.
I mean if I wrote a scene with 3 dudes in a locker room changing and they are all drunk on
each others nutsacks and going heart eyes over Bob's massive cock.. come one guys! Let's double team him!
You guys would be losing your shit and hating me. You're not like that, right? Guys don't act that way right?
Guys who like girls would never act like that right? And sorry guys, like Santa Clause sleep overs aren't
nude pillow fights and lusty lesbo antics.. usually. We're a lot less gay than you like to fantasize.
Especially if we can have Liam or Luke's penis. This isn't NTR, it's a harem starter.
SoA was on my favs list.. until ya shat out Chapter 4. WHY?
However. I already modded it for.. well.. uses... it has such potential I might just re-write that
entire chapter. News flash. We don't actually behave like that. Worst attempt at male jerk off
fanservice I have ever seen.
Before someone nerds up and defends it, I want SoA to be amazing. And it can be. But Chapter 4...
Is dousing your nuts in napalm and lighting a match. How much do you have to say slut in one chapter?
And I'm sorry to de-fantasize you, be we are territorial AF. No way is it believable at all that after Rob,
Alice would even consider sharing Luke with any one. And how fuggin thirsty are Sophie and Kate?
Quit writing us like we're gender swapped dudes. I know what tits look and feel like. I have them.
They don't amaze me like they amaze you. I have Gods gift of an ass, seeing another girl's ass doesn't
make me go stupid levels of horny like a dude.
I mean if I wrote a scene with 3 dudes in a locker room changing and they are all drunk on
each others nutsacks and going heart eyes over Bob's massive cock.. come one guys! Let's double team him!
You guys would be losing your shit and hating me. You're not like that, right? Guys don't act that way right?
Guys who like girls would never act like that right? And sorry guys, like Santa Clause sleep overs aren't
nude pillow fights and lusty lesbo antics.. usually. We're a lot less gay than you like to fantasize.
Especially if we can have Liam or Luke's penis. This isn't NTR, it's a harem starter.
SymbioticLife
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Ma'am, this is a Wendy's.
But seriously, I am sorry you feel that way - even though I didn't write those scenes I did take part in proofreading and making suggestions - but nobody is pretending that girls are going crazy over each other in changing rooms. Yeah, it's written for a mostly male audience. This is porn at the end of the day... it's fetish, not reality and people need to know to separate the two.
But if you wrote a story/scene with 3 dudes going off on each others nutsacks or some dudes massive cock... I really wouldn't care? I'm sure there ARE such stories out there, written by other women or gay men, and it's certainly not my place to tell them they can't have their fantasy. Why should it bother me?
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ItsNotUs
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From a purely aesthetic point of view, the color of the swimsuit does not suit the first girl, her hair, eyes and swimsuit are the same tone...
kristo0086
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I need to see your gift from the gods. You don 't accept the idea that the girls weren 't aroused , but were just fooling around . I've seen girls do this many times. Especially in front of men . Or they may be bisexual to boot.
Indeed! This game feels like a harem game with sharing elements. Terrible game for those who seek NTS. Especially Andrea, she is a generic ugly looking character.
Hey guys,
I will take a short break from posting on this thread. You can still reach out to me on discord if you want to talk.
This is my first project and mainly a learning experience. I know I can't please every single one of you, but some of these comments are hurtful, as I try to do the best I can, with the time that I have. I try to take feedback into account, as long as it doesn't change the direction of the game that I have envisioned. Some things are easily fixable and I always try to improve the character interactions or build out their personalities more as the game progresses with every new chapter, but there will always be those that are angry/upset with the direction that I take. it really hurts to see the effort some individuals go through, to ruin the credibility of the game, due to it not aligning with their own views. I'm only human, I have a full-time job. This is something I do in my spare time. I've been developing Shadows of Ambition for 5 months now and I thought I was getting better at the way I present things, but... I guess I'm not.
As I said, I'm really trying to make a game/novel/comic/slideshow of images (whatever you want to call it at this point), that you can all enjoy as much as possible. I'm sorry if the decisions I make/made don't align with your own vision of how the story should play out.
Thanks for the support and checking out Shadows of Ambition. I hope I can do better in the future.
I will take a short break from posting on this thread. You can still reach out to me on discord if you want to talk.
This is my first project and mainly a learning experience. I know I can't please every single one of you, but some of these comments are hurtful, as I try to do the best I can, with the time that I have. I try to take feedback into account, as long as it doesn't change the direction of the game that I have envisioned. Some things are easily fixable and I always try to improve the character interactions or build out their personalities more as the game progresses with every new chapter, but there will always be those that are angry/upset with the direction that I take. it really hurts to see the effort some individuals go through, to ruin the credibility of the game, due to it not aligning with their own views. I'm only human, I have a full-time job. This is something I do in my spare time. I've been developing Shadows of Ambition for 5 months now and I thought I was getting better at the way I present things, but... I guess I'm not.
As I said, I'm really trying to make a game/novel/comic/slideshow of images (whatever you want to call it at this point), that you can all enjoy as much as possible. I'm sorry if the decisions I make/made don't align with your own vision of how the story should play out.
Thanks for the support and checking out Shadows of Ambition. I hope I can do better in the future.
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We got you covered, take your time! Remember that there is also a lot of positive comments, we're loving this game
Hey mate,
First things first, your game is amazing.
I say it as a person who always thought about VN like pointless stuff
It's your game, so do your thing. Like everyone you won't be able to write for the taste of all
Thanks for the game!
Vicissitudo
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Don't worry about criticism from people whose advice you wouldn't take.
You did and still doing a great job.
Think of that: Shadow of Ambition and My New Girlfriend are probably the two games with most influence in the current adult AI games universe. Moreover, there are so many random AI games here and there trying to emulate your products. I believe the biggest compliment you can ever receive is someone trying to copy your job!
You did a lot and honestly I hope you'll keep doing it your way. Please, ignore trolls and haters!
If you're work as a Wendy's employee is on par with your work as a proofer
Wendy's Abyss Should fire you hahaha
The "this is porn" excuse is fucking lame. This story is AMAZINGLY good.
It deserves much more respect, honestly, than some lame assed "this is just porn".
"It's fetish"... X-Hamster... go there for fetish. It's not reality... dude... really?
ABYSS! You're next. Don't. Don't start. You have to take the good with the bad, we all do.
That is how we learn and grow and get better. I will admit I was overly harsh, but that
scene was beneath you dude. No I don't know you personally, but I can tell by the effort
you actually put in to this. I would love to know you. Share with you. Help you.
I LOVE what you are doing. This is why I was so mad.
Here:
There is ZERO reason Luke couldn't be home when Alice arrives.
Asleep and still exhausted from the night before. He only just got home. He was about
to text Alice when she started banging on his door. Nothing has to change. Just that.
Her banging brings Kate out. All of that happens as is. Only Luke is there panicking about
Kate letting things slip to Alice. Luke gets Alice alone for a second to tell her what happened.
We get that whole living room scene early. Sophie breaks them up because she wants to go
shopping. They invite Kate. Luke's not sure that's a good idea.
Sophie mentions the discount and Luke (after Liam) is sure he knows how she got it.
Again he worries she's a bad influence.
Inside Sophie and Kate compete to tease Luke. NOT THE AUDIENCE.
Alice is not happy about this and starts losing confidence. Luke sees this and encourages her.
Alice starts becoming more confident and competitive. Like she does in the scene. For Luke.
That's when Sophie starts up with her "you need to share Luke, it's only fair." crap.
Alice sees this as the same way Sophie manipulated her with Rob. Like she does.
Luke reassures her that he only wants her. Building back he confidence again.
You still have the same tit show, it's just played out the RIGHT way.
When they leave, Luke TEXTS Olivia that he accepts the job after spending time with Alice
and her being supportive of it. She tells him there is a package waiting for him.
He and Alice go back to the apartment to get it. They both discuss the camera.
Luke texts Olivia back about it. As it happens.
Alice reminds Luke that Sophie wants to be on OogleFans and they discuss it.
She says she doesn't think she can do that but is okay if Luke takes pics of Sophie.
So this doesn't look shady and out of character for Luke... who is already bumbling through
situations as is.
Luke gets a text from Liam about the yoga class. They agree to go.
The rest resumes as it does.
Everything fixed and better. Barely any new art needed.
I could do it easy in my mod with the art there is.
Speaking if my mod and the wonderful job of the proofers...
My mod fixed ever broken elements the new update brought with it by default.
It also corrects every single typo in the story. My mod is better proofed.
If you want a good and trustworthy proofer.. I'll do it. I already have.
Like I said I love this story and the characters. Liam is amazing! Do not fuck him up.
All because there is sex and fetish in something does not mean it's just "porn" and dismissed like that.
The art is amazing. The writing is fucking good if consistant. But that's not Abyss' fault.
That's the fault of you guys he rely on proofing it.
Fuck it. I'll use my developer signature this time. just so the next guy being all dismissive will get
that yeah. I'm a fellow dev / modder. You can see my work if you want references haha
Seriously. Abyss. Don't shy away. Keep interacting with your base. Confront the critics. Ask for
details on why they have problems. You don't have to bend to them. Just understand them.
Not everyone is going to have praise all the time.
And I mean it when I say, I'll happily help you if you want it. I want this to succeed so bad.
I really really do. Just like I wanted my devs to succeed. And they have been succeeding.
SymbioticLife
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I mean no offense, your game has tons of shit I could tear into as well.
You do realize there are far more polite ways to relay feedback?
We are always willing to read/consider feedback, and see what merit it has. But try not to come in with outright hostility and expect a positive response.
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Sure you do.
The difference here is, if you have something to say about my game, which you don't.
I doubt you've read it but let's say you have... we WANT feedback, both positive and negative.
I'm not going to run to a Mod to have a comment from our forum banned, or deleted because
I had my feefees hurt. Just like I wouldn't ban or kick someone from our Discord for having
a negative opinion. I would take time, like I do to talk to them and understand them.
That's the difference.
so yes. We can cut the fake CSR cardboard response. The difference here is I ACTUALLY
WANT SoA to succeed and grow. I think you and I differ very much on that. I don't see it as
just "porn" or spank bait... Well I don't see anything as spank bait actually. That's probably
what make my opinion mean more here. I actually love the story and the characters.
Look... seriously...
This is how much love and belief I have in Abyss.
So don't be all "coming in here all hostile" When I'm showing Abyss so much LOVE everywhere else haha
Do you see where I put it on that list?
What are you doing? As the proofreader you sure aren't helping.
If you want to list all your criticism for my work, please do. I would love it! Not even lying.
Positive and negative, I want to hear it. That's how we make it BETTER.
Think about that.
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SymbioticLife
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I'm playing it right now, though I think I've played enough to get the gist. I don't enjoy giving negative feedback—I have plenty of it, but I don’t like engaging in negative dialogue. The game just isn't for me. I find the dialogue lifeless and stiff (for example, "Did you finally sign that big deal?" "Yeah, with the client I told you about."). It’s the kind of generic, lifeless dialogue we’ve seen a thousand times before, but this time with even less detail, like a filler episode in the middle of a conversation. The main character feels like a spineless cretin with no self-respect, and the wife comes across as a gaslighting manipulator. It's for other people to enjoy, and that’s fine.
I also didn't say it's just porn, I said it is porn. That doesn't mean we're not trying to improve the writing, but that is something that can only be done through improving over time, and hopefully less tight deadlines than what we've run with so far.
I do find it amusing you think I don't want to see it succeed and grow when I've put many, many hours into helping... I don't even disagree with some of your points. But we have jobs, we have responsibilities. Once something is written we don't have endless time to rewrite, re-render and re-edit the images for that portion.
I bear you no ill will, in spite of you attacking my contributions, my skills and apparently even my gender as the chapter apparently made you "hate men". But I do find myself a little annoyed by the fact you seem unable to engage in critique without ad hominem and hostility. That isn't very productive.
"Hating men was a joke" I obviously don't.
I'm trying not to bear you ill will either so, truce?
We both want Shadows of Ambition to succeed. Agreed?
You just have to be willing to accept criticism as well as positive feedback.
I am curious which version of A Wife's Loyalty that is. What's on F95Z is the beta demo.
Which I joined up after to fix it. Believe me, I dealt with A LOT of criticism haha
We released the Alpha on Patreon last week. That one I re wrote. Not the beta demo.
But anyone with a not so positive view of the beta demo is very welcome to it.
I honestly had some choice things to say about it myself. I have nooo problem discussing
what I feel are weakness in the projects I'm involved in. And you're right, it's not for everyone.
My work is real NTR. Not the misunderstood trash filling.. well.. everywhere.
Enough about that though. I am sorry, truly, if I made you think I was somehow bashing you
directly for being a guy. On the flip side, my point is it gets old fast all the damn objectification.
Normally I don't mind it. I don't get mad when I get cat called in real life. I don't care if some rando
grabs my ass. I tend to laugh it off. My exes start fights though. I'm actually pretty chill with a good
sense of humor. The issue is how that scene was delivered. It was stupid and bad. Had Luke been there
it would have been good. Opinion sure. I challenge you to try my suggestion and see how it plays out.
I guarantee you it will be better seeing Luke getting teased.
So are we good now?
kristo0086: As I just said, I have a really good sense of humor. This is for you:
Me and my ass
Jivapeira
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Hello, congratulations on your game! I generated this image to show that I have some knowledge of what I’m talking about (This just the best approximation of what I feel the style is, using a lot of Melkor, of which I was a fan long before the AI scene. It hasn't been cleaned up or upscaled... t's raw footage.) and am not just pulling things out of thin air. I’m a low-key developer, and you’re welcome to check my portfolio if you’d like. Typically, I wouldn’t message a random porn site, which is how I personally view this, but while I was on my goonses, I came across your game. It immediately captured my attention... the style was compelling. I launched it, tried it out, and the consistency of the characters and the manipulation of the poses impressed me. I felt it was important to at least share my thoughts.
Couldn’t care 10 shits of fetishes involved, that’s for the rest of the community to decide. What fascinates me is the consistency of the AI and the narrative(coorelating images). Now, I’m familiar with Controlnets and Loras, obviously (I’m by no means a pro, not even a novice), I worked on some of my own tensors and stuff but... I’d love to hear about the workflow for training character Loras and working with Controlnets .The moment I saw your game, I realized I had to message you, ask questions, and show my appreciation... so, do with that what you will. I’m familiar with Daz and Reallusion, and I’ve invested thousands of hours refining my own Dforce shaders, especially when it comes to hair (though, with Melkor, it doesn’t really matter).
I see immense potential, maybe 3D game or recreating the shader in an actual game or a 3D novel. Imagine that? Whatever it is, the possibilities are endless, and they flashed through my mind. I couldn’t resist asking you about it, so yeah... I’d be glad to hear what you think?