They barely even mentioned the trans thing, it was one line... the whole point of their rant was that it makes no sense to have the option to completely delete Bill's memories. Not when MC knows that the FBI is watching the town for supernatural events, and that the agents explicitly know the two of them are best friends. You don't think they're gonna find it just a wee bit suspicious that shortly after they go interviewing these two friends, one of them suddenly thinks he's never met the other in his life?Dude... this game is not all about whatever YOU want. A lot of us actually LIKE the idea of trans girl Billie! The dev already made the decision and Trans Billie is a valid choice in the game. You have two options to avoid trans Billie, choose the option to erase his memory and forget all about MC OR you can go play a different game and leave us all in peace. Those are your only options because devs don't just rewrite existing content to meet the demands of one lone person. You have a choice in game to make Bill into Billie or to just erase his memory or you can just find another game. There are many games here on F95 from which to choose. Whatever you do, STOP WHINING!!!
Adventure ever on, Phat
Ren'Py Shattered Minds [v0.12] [eXtasy Games]
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The OSA are no longer monitoring Billie so no worries.
Anyway, when devs make a choice like this I just run with it, consequences be damned.
The entire premise of this story is in a ridiculous fantasy land that would never exist.
This is the dev's world, dev's rules.
Adventure ever on, Phat
I would say hes pure evil, you can say its not the true MC but with Ava also being MC well then he would be pure evil, just look at what he did to hes teacher.....she sure in hell wasent happy on the bed in her appartment.
Your absolutly right, i dont mind the option to make him a trans girl since some people might love that, but the part of removing hes memory is crazy.
Making him forget all about MC has to be the most brainless idea ever, the "men in black" already knows that Bill and MC are freinds, so Bill forgetting all about him would raise one hell off a red flag to them and to everyone else at school and Bills parrents and so on, which would let them figure out MC has powers very easy.....
And Ava is saying do this to be safe from the "men in black"......idiotic.
That just dosent work though, the female OSA will be monitoring everyone at the school and MC most of all, so she would surely notice that MC and hes best friend is acting like strangers now and look into that stright away.The OSA are no longer monitoring Billie so no worries.
Anyway, when devs make a choice like this I just run with it, consequences be damned.
The entire premise of this story is in a ridiculous fantasy land that would never exist.
This is the dev's world, dev's rules.
Adventure ever on, Phat
This suffers from some of the problems that a ton of sandbox/point and click games have. Navigation is pretty bad, each of the main areas (home, school, mall, etc) should have a quick nav way to just go to an area without having to know where to click. I didnt even know you could get to the backyard until I randomly clicked on it, and its frustrating have to click through 5 different areas to get to the offices for example.
Another is direction. Right now all of my quests are at the NOT YET INCLUDED stage and Im still missing 3 scenes in the gallery.
The last one is this may as well be a visual novel and get rid of the sandbox/point and click. There isnt a freedom to any of the quests, to any of the choices. You have to complete quests to unlock others. It doesnt really matter if you can choose to do the mom quest or the sister quest first when both need to be completed and nothing changes with them to advance the story and unlock the next series of quests. Like there is no reason this couldnt just be a normal VN where you wake up and are given a few choices on what to do next rather than have to pointlessly click 7 times to get to the school at noon.
Another is direction. Right now all of my quests are at the NOT YET INCLUDED stage and Im still missing 3 scenes in the gallery.
The last one is this may as well be a visual novel and get rid of the sandbox/point and click. There isnt a freedom to any of the quests, to any of the choices. You have to complete quests to unlock others. It doesnt really matter if you can choose to do the mom quest or the sister quest first when both need to be completed and nothing changes with them to advance the story and unlock the next series of quests. Like there is no reason this couldnt just be a normal VN where you wake up and are given a few choices on what to do next rather than have to pointlessly click 7 times to get to the school at noon.
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What is the string bikini for? has it not been implemented yet. And where did AVA's school girl outfit go? I like the new secretary outfit but don't see a reason to get rid of the other just keep both and/or add more to unlock at higher levels. Like to revisit the escort site and try using your power's on them. Also you like to check in on Stacy for more fun.
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My man, most devs welcome feedback. If someone thinks a decision in game doesn't make much sense, they should mention it. It's up to the devs discretion whether they want to do anything with that feedback. Giving your opinion on something isn't "whining" it's important to game development.The OSA are no longer monitoring Billie so no worries.
Anyway, when devs make a choice like this I just run with it, consequences be damned.
The entire premise of this story is in a ridiculous fantasy land that would never exist.
This is the dev's world, dev's rules.
Adventure ever on, Phat
MC doesn't know that. The decision has to work based on what the characters believe, not what we as viewers know. And in any case, they're still watching MC and the town in general. You really think they won't notice that Bill is suddenly operating on a different set of memories that conspicuously revolve around having never met MC before?
The people still act like people. There's a principle when writing fantasies, sometimes called "like reality unless noted": until the narrative specifically mentions something (or it becomes a logical consequence of something else that's been established), the setting is assumed to work like the real world. The writer can write a scene where a character falls off a cliff, and readers will assume that's a dangerous situation without needing to be told that gravity works the same in this world, or that sudden deceleration is still bad for a human body.
And in this particular case, it's established that there *are* potential consequences to deleting Bill's memories, since MC specifically needs to manage Bill's mom's memories too. So the story explicitly denies the assumption that altering Bill's memories will somehow go unnoticed, fantasy world or no.
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Okay, if you say so. I will try it out and see if it's a grindy, blind, get-lost-in-your-own-house mess or if there is an actual path to follow that leads to something great! Thanks.
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Huge difference between quality feedback and a whiny temper tantrum from a 2 year old!
I don't object to folks having an opinion, just objecting to the utter lack of manners.
Don't stand up for obvious trolls. Phat out
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He was neither whining, nor throwing a temper tantrum. You were the one lacking manners. You were the one who was rude. Someone giving their opinion is not an "obvious troll"Huge difference between quality feedback and a whiny temper tantrum from a 2 year old!
I don't object to folks having an opinion, just objecting to the utter lack of manners.
Don't stand up for obvious trolls. Phat out
I too actually find the Bill path damn weird.
Sure the OSA isn't looking at Bill anymore but with the powers that MC has, he can psycho Bill into not saying anything rather than having him change his sex nor even forget MC.
The OSA already knew about Bill knowing MC thus it makes no sense that Bill "suddenly forget" MC.
Sure the OSA isn't looking at Bill anymore but with the powers that MC has, he can psycho Bill into not saying anything rather than having him change his sex nor even forget MC.
The OSA already knew about Bill knowing MC thus it makes no sense that Bill "suddenly forget" MC.
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Trolls are specifically out to anger people by saying inciteful things. Completely different from a "temper tantrum", per your own words, which is based on a genuine emotional response. People these days misusing internet terminology...Huge difference between quality feedback and a whiny temper tantrum from a 2 year old!
I don't object to folks having an opinion, just objecting to the utter lack of manners.
Don't stand up for obvious trolls. Phat out
Besides, that post may not have been the most eloquent or well-punctuated, but it was in fact a fully featured criticism:
Submission statement: this portion of the storyline is badly done and needs to be revised.
Explanation of the problem.
Suggested solution.
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First off, what I quoted above is extremely aggressive and sets the tone on how people receive the comment. When I read that part I wasn't about to read the rest. So, you can't expect anyone to not respond in kind. When I've come off aggressive like that, people have gone sideways on me. Rightly so. He deserved to get what PapaPhat dished out. Maybe now that person will learn some manners. But defending him is like rewarding a child with some candy after they threw a tantrum.
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You'd have to be softer than a teddy bear to think that's extremely aggressive.
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Maybe I am. I'm not though. I've gotten warned and deleted for less. So from that viewpoint, he was aggressive and people tend to get aggressive back.
Its not implemented in V7, i know but, before, i understood about it, i asked if its bug or just end of the v7 version path with them. Anyway its great game and i prety much like it. Also, is there a way to speed up the sex animation?
Revisited prolog: In order to make the MC and Bill seem more mature and the college seem more like a college, some dialogue was changed.
There aren't any significant changes to the story itself.
guestion for someone who played it, is scene where sister is striping before bill reworked or still in game?
There aren't any significant changes to the story itself.
guestion for someone who played it, is scene where sister is striping before bill reworked or still in game?