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EvokedShadow

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Aug 15, 2023
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Hey so, how do you remove the NG+ stuff? Each time i try to start a new game its just a walking sim from the start to the end with no demons except the ones already in My Room that show up for some funny interactions. I checked bonus tab but all thats there is extra stories.
You can no longer remove NG+ bonuses after completing EX4, this is because by nature the Genocide Run doesn't exist anymore and shouldn't be accessible. I guess Aran struggled to code it to simply be locked out?

Regardless, if you want to play a run without NG+ effects on that copy of the game, simply use Hardcore, as it forcefully disables NG+ and Assists while keeping the game on Medium Difficulty.

Otherwise, get a second copy downloaded and don't clear EX4 on it.
 
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I've seen the question asked before but i never saw an answer so is there an actual translation for Ocelot and Yami that just wasn't included or have they just never been translated?
 

EvokedShadow

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Aug 15, 2023
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someone have the full game with save? can send here please?
Depends on what you mean.

If you want a save with the entire game(and EX scenarios) cleared, I can get you that. Though I'd personally recommend playing through it, this game's story is one of it's fun points.

Regardless, here.

Unzip that and paste the Save File into Saves, and the PublicData can go into the game's base directory. After that, just run the game and it should all work.
 
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EvokedShadow

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Aug 15, 2023
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Locked in and beat Suicidal recently, I'm so goated.

My review's opinion stands, this game is too easy. Thinking of figuring out how to mod it to be harder :D.

Anybody know how editing stats and whatnot would work for an rpgm game like this?
 

Noah Neim

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Locked in and beat Suicidal recently, I'm so goated.

My review's opinion stands, this game is too easy. Thinking of figuring out how to mod it to be harder :D.

Anybody know how editing stats and whatnot would work for an rpgm game like this?
You say the game is too easy yet plenty of reviewers who say its too hard, hats off to you :KEK:

Im pretty sure if you open most files as a project on rpg maker and edit it as you please, so maybe start from there
 

EvokedShadow

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Aug 15, 2023
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You say the game is too easy yet plenty of reviewers who say its too hard, hats off to you :KEK:

Im pretty sure if you open most files as a project on rpg maker and edit it as you please, so maybe start from there
I noted that in my own review. I feel like a lot of people restricted themselves from using assists and made the game harder than it needed to be.

I did Suicidal without assists sure, but that was with a lot of knowledge about every boss and it's mechanics.

Do you know which RPGMaker this one uses? If I can pinpoint that I might be able to do more than edit some numbers... Maybe even... increase Debuff and Restrain Chances :D :D
 

Noah Neim

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I noted that in my own review. I feel like a lot of people restricted themselves from using assists and made the game harder than it needed to be.

I did Suicidal without assists sure, but that was with a lot of knowledge about every boss and it's mechanics.

Do you know which RPGMaker this one uses? If I can pinpoint that I might be able to do more than edit some numbers... Maybe even... increase Debuff and Restrain Chances :D :D
I think it's vx ace? though dont quote me on that, i dont recall perfectly
 

Noah Neim

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Ah well, I can try a few.
How about you, have you cleared this supposedly "impossibly masochistic game"?
i mean yeah, i was quite vocal about it, my hatered for this game can be expressed by my 3 thousand word review, though i hadn't really challenged myself like you, though i didnt have much problems except with the daiji fight on my first playthrough, the permament punishment mechanic is just scummy, if you want people to implement trial and error you can't literally corrupt their save with a debuff :BootyTime:
 

EvokedShadow

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i mean yeah, i was quite vocal about it, my hatered for this game can be expressed by my 3 thousand word review, though i hadn't really challenged myself like you, though i didnt have much problems except with the daiji fight on my first playthrough, the permament punishment mechanic is just scummy, if you want people to implement trial and error you can't literally corrupt their save with a debuff :BootyTime:
Oh I remember reading your review a while back, lol. You seemed to be quite pissed.
Again, I do think the existence of assists was to allow one to relieve that trial and error, since you shouldn't be going for your super true ending first run anyways. But we can agree to disagree. I think this game's difficulty is just a point of contention at this point.

The only review that really pissed me off was the one that accused people who liked the game for quote "have Stockholm syndrome and are just trying to make excuses for their abuser."

Edit: Daji is the first run killer, challenging yourself at all reveals Mukuro as the true hardest boss of the game
 

Noah Neim

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Oh I remember reading your review a while back, lol. You seemed to be quite pissed.
Again, I do think the existence of assists was to allow one to relieve that trial and error, since you shouldn't be going for your super true ending first run anyways. But we can agree to disagree. I think this game's difficulty is just a point of contention at this point.

The only review that really pissed me off was the one that accused people who liked the game for quote "have Stockholm syndrome and are just trying to make excuses for their abuser."

Edit: Daji is the first run killer, challenging yourself at all reveals Mukuro as the true hardest boss of the game
yeah but i was stubborn about it and didnt want to use it since the guide said it changes the ending, either way it doesnt matter that much
 

Sarojin

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yeah but i was stubborn about it and didnt want to use it since the guide said it changes the ending, either way it doesnt matter that much
It's all good man, I found by experimenting with shrift 2, the save scum to end all save scums.

Usually you'd just reload with typical save scumming, developer obviously thought that through and did his own permanent decisions and punishing you for quitting the game after you lose to avoid said loss.

Well now what I do is I save before w/e "permanent" stuff, copy the save folder and put it in a folder I call the "temp save to rewind time", so if I mess up and don't want that "permanent" decision. I just copy over the save folder in that past save and overwrite the game's current save folder, effectively making it so that never happened.

Obviously with shrift 1, this would mean you need to also get the public data file as well.
 

EvokedShadow

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Aug 15, 2023
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It's all good man, I found by experimenting with shrift 2, the save scum to end all save scums.

Usually you'd just reload with typical save scumming, developer obviously thought that through and did his own permanent decisions and punishing you for quitting the game after you lose to avoid said loss.

Well now what I do is I save before w/e "permanent" stuff, copy the save folder and put it in a folder I call the "temp save to rewind time", so if I mess up and don't want that "permanent" decision. I just copy over the save folder in that past save and overwrite the game's current save folder, effectively making it so that never happened.

Obviously with shrift 1, this would mean you need to also get the public data file as well.
Save scumming the game is possible, but again, most of the things that would actually need it have alternatives.

I can't see any decisions that would COMPLETELY force save scumming, except for one of the Genocide Endings of course.

Does bother me a little that I can't replay the game proper on my EX 4 Cleared Copy, but otherwise. I don't see much of an issue.

Also, forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't SHRIFT 2's Corruption and force data mechanics significantly easier to get rid of?
 

Sarojin

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Save scumming the game is possible, but again, most of the things that would actually need it have alternatives.

I can't see any decisions that would COMPLETELY force save scumming, except for one of the Genocide Endings of course.

Does bother me a little that I can't replay the game proper on my EX 4 Cleared Copy, but otherwise. I don't see much of an issue.

Also, forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't SHRIFT 2's Corruption and force data mechanics significantly easier to get rid of?

The method I just said, has been working for me, public data + saves, copy both. Then when the mess up/loss happens, copy and paste the public data + saves I previously copied, and copy and paste them back to the game's folder.

I'm on empusa right now, and going after the true mercy route. I had a hell of a time figuring out what to do with iron maiden, because the guide mentions nothing about the not that obvious blank option to struggle with all your might.

That's a pretty important detail to have in a supposed "guide".
 

EvokedShadow

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Aug 15, 2023
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The method I just said, has been working for me, public data + saves, copy both. Then when the mess up/loss happens, copy and paste the public data + saves I previously copied, and copy and paste them back to the game's folder.

I'm on empusa right now, and going after the true mercy route. I had a hell of a time figuring out what to do with iron maiden, because the guide mentions nothing about the not that obvious blank option to struggle with all your might.

That's a pretty important detail to have in a supposed "guide".
You're going for TM? If you have done a run before with assists it'll be significantly easier thanks to NG+. But I guess if you're using that method it doesn't matter.

Edit: The way I see it its probably meant to go: Normal Run with assists -> Get a neutral end -> NG+ -> Get Mercy/TM -> Get TM
 
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