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EvokedShadow

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Yeah, that's the idea. As of version... 7.2+ I believe? Might be a bit later than that, not sure. But anyways, as of somewhere near that version, the Genocide route was made to be impossible without cheating. And then it was also made so you couldn't get it your first run and you get forcibly booted off somewhere around 2 - 1 or 2 - 2 if you tried. Because the dev got butthurt that people liked it more than the mercy route.

Make hateable characters and give the players a way to kill them, and the players will kill them. Shocker. Who could have guessed.
Not the dev, apparently.
I don't try to fight genocide hate much but thats just an incorrect statement.

The reason Genocide was made inaccessible on the first run was because it was fucking with the cycle of gameplay that was supposed to happen.

Logically there is no reason for the player character, or Kazuya, to go out of his way to murder every demon as he goes, killing the ones that get in his way is one thing, but lingering in an area to ensure they're gone is a very meta thing to do.

Alan wanted for at least a neutral ending to have been obtained prior to Genocide, so that the player would have a better understanding of the timeline of events and therefore people wouldn't be really fuck all confused by what happens at the end of Genocide.

Even with all the other endings, Genocide still drops a lot of confusing lore drops that aren't easily understandable until you do EX4.
 
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Both the knife and locket in question aren't things the dev implemented, they're modded items that are part of the download package here on F95. Why? I don't really know, makes Hyakki easier I guess.

The Genocide Route certainly has it's problems, which is probably why Alan isn't trying to make one and is moving further away from the undertale homages with the prequel.
it is definitely not because this game is literally hentai undertale
 

EvokedShadow

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it is definitely not because this game is literally hentai undertale
I hate to break it to you but yes, they are modded items. You can find the mod data in the game's directory.

Similarily theres a mod that lets you unequip the hospital gown which applies stat modifications to Kazuya depending on difficulty.

It is possible I misunderstood what you were referring to with it's definitely not though..
 

Fate_

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You need the Abyss Memento, which can be found in the same area as the Mukuro boss fight after defeating her. Instead of leaving for the next chapter, go straight forward and enter the pit room, and then interact with the sparkling lamp to get the Human Key.

Head back in, go to the left-hand room of the area, and use the key to open the signpost secret door at the backend of that room. The memento is in there.

If you've gone past this point its possible you will have to chapter select and re-fight Mukuro.


Let me know your difficulty and what weapons/accessories you have and I can give you a strategy to make the mukuro Refight take significantly less time and attempts.

I realized I might not notice quickly enough when you reply so I guess I'll just send a basic strategy.

If you're on Regular/Masochistic, using the Riot or Double-Barrel Shotgun are both very viable methods of consistently beating Mukuro.

Start the fight with tea and immediately use a Riot Shot/One Shotgun Shell, if you're using the Riot you should get a second shot off ideally the next turn if you can. If you're using the shotgun, simply reload the shell you just used.

These two turns are important, if you get stuck on getting the second action done for a few turns, the fight might turn sour.

After this, simply play defensively. Deal with restraints, use items, no need to try desperately to get an attacking turn.


You're stalling so Mukuro will eventually use her no-restraint time-stop. It's signified by her sprite changing to a far more disheveled one, but she doesn't apply any hair bindings. Normally, attacking her or doing anything aside from Defensive Stance when she does this would lead to death by cowgirl(wonderful way to die I guess), however she takes doubled damage from most damage types in this stance. Use either the Riot Shot or the Double-Barrel Burst Shot and it should be more than enough damage to win the fight and stop her from doing anything else.

If you're on easy you can just use the Riot and shoot her like 3 times she probably wont get to do much about that.

The Riot is obtainable in one of the Cars in 2-1 if you don't know what it is.

To sum it up

Riot Route: Two Shots, wait for No-Restraint Time-Stop, Final Shot

Shotgun Route: One Shot, Reload, Wait for No-Restraint Time-Stop, Burst Shot
Thanks for the tips, I've already gone through it and in fact, I even did the true mercy ending. But my real terror began after that, in EX, I screwed up in "world 2". Hecate defeated me and corrupted my entire save, I was so depressed that I deleted the game, is there any way to beat her? I'll probably download it again because I really liked this game.
 

EvokedShadow

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Thanks for the tips, I've already gone through it and in fact, I even did the true mercy ending. But my real terror began after that, in EX, I screwed up in "world 2". Hecate defeated me and corrupted my entire save, I was so depressed that I deleted the game, is there any way to beat her? I'll probably download it again because I really liked this game.
I sure hope you backed up those save files, because Hecate beating you and leaving your save file in that state is a scripted sequence of events. You can't win that fight to begin with.

Hyakki prior to the Mormo fight tells you to recall how to access your email. Its referring to the txt files within the game directory. After losing to Hecate a new one is supposed to be added with the name HYAKKI or something of the ike.


Some of the downloads on F95 come with all those txt files already there, so just delete them ahead of time.

Regardless, if you can't get that text file or for some other reason you've lost it. The game wants you to open up the Intervention config, to do this, simply hold Q + W on the main menu and press Start, if Hecate is looping you, simply close the game and reopen it to get the main menu back and perform the action.

If you need be, I can probably provide you a save file in the Clear Room after True Mercy, you'd still have to Redo EX 1, but its something?
 

Fate_

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Espero que você tenha feito backup desses arquivos salvos, porque Hecate te derrotar e deixar seu arquivo salvo naquele estado é uma sequência de eventos com script. Você não pode vencer essa luta para começar.

Hyakki antes da luta com Mormo diz para você lembrar como acessar seu e-mail. Ele está se referindo aos arquivos txt dentro do diretório do jogo. Depois de perder para Hecate, um novo deve ser adicionado com o nome HYAKKI ou algo do tipo.


Alguns dos downloads no F95 já vêm com todos esses arquivos txt, então basta excluí-los antes.

De qualquer forma, se você não conseguir obter esse arquivo de texto ou por algum outro motivo você o perdeu. O jogo quer que você abra a configuração Intervention, para fazer isso, simplesmente segure Q + W no menu principal e pressione Start, se Hecate estiver fazendo loop em você, simplesmente feche o jogo e reabra-o para obter o menu principal de volta e executar a ação.

Se precisar, provavelmente posso lhe fornecer um arquivo salvo na Clear Room depois de True Mercy. Você ainda teria que refazer o EX 1, mas é alguma coisa?
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Cara... Então eu tenho que abrir esse menu depois da batalha? Eu abri ele tantas vezes antes da batalha e nada aconteceu, além disso, eu acho que eu abri ele mesmo depois da batalha mas naquele ponto, eu já tinha sido derrotado, eu não fechei ele antes de perder, então deve ser diferente. Bem, por favor me dê o arquivo do final verdadeiro, por favor, eu vou reinstalar o jogo. :'/
 

EvokedShadow

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Finished EX2, I can complete EX 3 before go genocide or it will lock genocide route?
Its EX4 that locks Genocide upon completion, more specifically it blocks resetting NG+ Bonuses, which indirectly locks Genocide since you can't reset demon encounters and My Room progress.

Make a backup anytime before the final EX4 Fight, and you should be fine.
 
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EvokedShadow

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So, is there anywhere where Shrift Collab is translated into English?
The Collab is translated, at least translated enough that the story can be understood and gameplay mechanics are clear.

If your collab isn't translated, make sure you're using the latest download here.
 

Bruhhhbbb

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Both the knife and locket in question aren't things the dev implemented, they're modded items that are part of the download package here on F95. Why? I don't really know, makes Hyakki easier I guess.

The Genocide Route certainly has it's problems, which is probably why Alan isn't trying to make one and is moving further away from the undertale homages with the prequel.
There's going to be a purify route in shrift 2. What this means isn't clear, what is clear is that one route you friend all the demons and in another you 'purify' them. Seems pretty genocidy to me
 

Noah Neim

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There's going to be a purify route in shrift 2. What this means isn't clear, what is clear is that one route you friend all the demons and in another you 'purify' them. Seems pretty genocidy to me
I highly doubt it, thus man went out of his way to make an entire route which 90% consists of him shitting on genocide players with his god awful arguments and made the the final boss almost unbeatable even with cheating. We're unlikely to get a genocide route again
 

EvokedShadow

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There's going to be a purify route in shrift 2. What this means isn't clear, what is clear is that one route you friend all the demons and in another you 'purify' them. Seems pretty genocidy to me
Alan has made multiple statements about how purification is not genocide.
 
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