VN Ren'Py Silent Corruption [Ep.1 P1 v0.1] [Mr.Kin]

[goulet1995]

I like harem too, but I also like non-harem games where you can go for multiple character choices, or a game focused on just a single character.

Edith: seeing that the Dev is not against it, and the game will have multiple endings I hope he adds harem ending.

its more a time thing for me i just dont want to have to have multiple playthroughs to see the content i like

 

[Crosaith.]

its more a time thing for me i just dont want to have to have multiple playthroughs to see the content i like

Don't think harem fits this game dude. It'd cheapen the games story. Characters will die. Doubt any dudes playing Pokemon would want to lose any of their starters.

 

[GooseElite]

Not all characters will die, as I've mentioned before on the forum. That would be too predictable, not to mention too grim.

However, I can confirm that unfortunately, on some routes, a main character will die.

For example, let's say you're following Route 1. A character who doesn't appear much in Route 1, but is very present in Route 2, might be the one who dies in your playthrough. Conversely, if you're on a route where a certain character is heavily featured, it's probable that this character will not die on that specific path.

When it comes to the deaths, I really like to work with the concepts of the Butterfly Effect or Chaos Theory. A single different decision can change the future in significant ways. The deaths in the game are designed to feel like a consequence of those choices, not a predestined event.

It's more about that kind of narrative impact. I know this might please some and not others, but it's part of the experience of telling this kind of story.

This sounds great. I’ve enjoyed my playthrough so far and I’m eagerly looking forward to the future updates.

 

[Mr.Kin]

Mr.Kin is the lesbian stuff going to be avoidable my personal view on it is any form of girl on girl is equal to sharing the LI with another man which i am very much against in any playthrough i do.

The lesbian content will occur within the context of the threesome scenes, specifically when the MC is with two girls at the same time. There are no plans for scenes that feature only girl-on-girl content without the MC's involvement.

Thank you for confirming my question Sarah, I really like redheads, so I would be most happy if I could date her soon in the story. Of course, there are still many girls to meet, but it would be nice to see her at school in the meantime...
In the first episode, there are two girls' routes, so can we already be afraid of a possible tragedy for one of the girls later?
Of course, only you know the correct answer about the killer, but right now what I see in the picture I posted is a male killer. I saw the "victim board" and wrote down the names for myself, maybe we will meet one of them in the story, and then there will be no surprise about the girl's fate. However, I find it a little strange that there is a photo of the car on the sign, even the license plate is slightly visible. And the last two letters match the car in the murder video. So how come they haven't identified the car until now?

Regarding your first point about character fates: I won't spoil exactly who or when, but I can confirm that in Episode 1, some developments will occur that have irreversible consequences for certain characters. The choices you make will definitely determine who is still standing at the end of the investigation.

As for the license plate on the car, you are absolutely right. I must have overlooked that detail. The image on the board is meant to be a model or a mock-up representing an eyewitness sighting of the vehicle, not the actual car itself. I will correct this in the next update to remove the specific license plate to avoid confusion.

I really appreciate you flagging these things for me.

 

[goulet1995]

The lesbian content will occur within the context of the threesome scenes, specifically when the MC is with two girls at the same time. There are no plans for scenes that feature only girl-on-girl content without the MC's involvement.

will that part of the threesome be a choice or is that forced like i said im against lesbian in any shape or form its fine if its forced alot probably most people are fine with this but for me it is a dealbreaker so just like to know before getting into a story.

 

[Mr.Kin]

will that part of the threesome be a choice or is that forced like i said im against lesbian in any shape or form its fine if its forced alot probably most people are fine with this but for me it is a dealbreaker so just like to know before getting into a story.

Everything is a consequence of your choices. The story will let you know if you're on a path where that might happen.

 

[Mr.Kin]

First off, I want to say a massive thank you for all the incredible feedback, suggestions, and discussions over the last few days. As a solo developer, hearing your thoughts is invaluable, and I've been reading everything.

I'm excited to announce that I'm targeting a release for the Android version.

Along with the Android release, there will be a new PC/Mac build that includes several quality-of-life improvements and content adjustments based directly on your feedback. Here’s what you can expect:

Gameplay & QoL Improvements:

• Disable camera shakes when not in POV.
• Instant text display will also be added.

Character & Story Adjustments:

• The character "Keith" will be officially renamed to Kate.
• Based on your feedback, Kate's "Queen of Spades" tattoo will be removed to avoid any unintended connotations.
• I'll also be correcting the default player name to "John".
• Fixing the license plate on the car in the investigation board.

Future Work:

• Following this update, work on the Italian and Brazilian Portuguese translations will begin.

These updates will be rolled out over the course of the next week, if all goes well.

 

[Sterkh90]

Yes, characters can die in this story. Unfortunately, it won't take long. Some routes will lead to it, but it won't be every character, otherwise, the story would become too grim. Let's just let the game happen. I know this might please some and not others, but that's part of the experience of telling a story.

I didn't quite get it (english isn't my native language). Will certain characters die no matter what the player does? Or will we have options? For example, saving one by sacrificing another, etc. (if you're really looking for drama).

 

[Degen003]

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[YogSothoth1982]

Hey everyone,

Thank you all so much for the feedback and comments so far! I've read through everything, and I wanted to address a few of the points and questions that have come up.


That's a great question about the scope of the relationships. As per the current story plan, there is one specific route planned where you will have two girls as love interests at the same time. However, as you all know, things can change over the course of development. A strong request from a supporter or a new idea could always lead me to make some slight adjustments to the story down the line. I'm always open to hearing what the community is interested in.

As for the harem question specifically, while I have five episodes already written, nothing would prevent me from adapting a part of the story in the future if there are enough suggestions or requests for it. But I can't make any guarantees on that right now. Thank you for the good wishes!

Since it's not currently a harem game, I'm not interested in starting to play, and I'll probably abandon this thread. If you decide to make it a harem game in the future, I'm very likely to miss that announcement and continue ignoring the game. And I'm sure there will be others like me. If it's going to be a harem game, it's best to make that clear from the beginning, because most of those who leave because it's not a harem game won't come back even if it changes. But it's your game, and you decide how to run it.

 

[Acsuka]

First off, I want to say a massive thank you for all the incredible feedback, suggestions, and discussions over the last few days. As a solo developer, hearing your thoughts is invaluable, and I've been reading everything.

I'm excited to announce that I'm targeting a release for the Android version.

Along with the Android release, there will be a new PC/Mac build that includes several quality-of-life improvements and content adjustments based directly on your feedback. Here’s what you can expect:

Gameplay & QoL Improvements:

• Disable camera shakes when not in POV.
• Instant text display will also be added.

Character & Story Adjustments:

• The character "Keith" will be officially renamed to Kate.
• Based on your feedback, Kate's "Queen of Spades" tattoo will be removed to avoid any unintended connotations.
• I'll also be correcting the default player name to "John".
• Fixing the license plate on the car in the investigation board.

Future Work:

• Following this update, work on the Italian and Brazilian Portuguese translations will begin.

These updates will be rolled out over the course of the next week, if all goes well.

If you allow me, can I suggest another change?
If you can solve it, please give us the option to name the saves. This would make the routes much easier, especially with so many girls...Thank you for solving this.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Yes, characters can die in this story. Unfortunately, it won't take long. Some routes will lead to it, but it won't be every character, otherwise, the story would become too grim. Let's just let the game happen. I know this might please some and not others, but that's part of the experience of telling a story.

Personally, if a LI that I like dies in a game, what I do is close the game, delete it, and look for another one. I'm not going to wait for an explanation, or see what happens next; that's just not going to happen. For me, the game is over at that point.

 

[Crosaith.]

Completed both routes. Madison all the way. That Vicky drama deff ain't for me.

 

[MagicMan753]

That's a great question about the scope of the relationships. As per the current story plan, there is one specific route planned where you will have two girls as love interests at the same time. However, as you all know, things can change over the course of development. A strong request from a supporter or a new idea could always lead me to make some slight adjustments to the story down the line. I'm always open to hearing what the community is interested in.

As for the harem question specifically, while I have five episodes already written, nothing would prevent me from adapting a part of the story in the future if there are enough suggestions or requests for it. But I can't make any guarantees on that right now. Thank you for the good wishes!

Ok, sounds good. I know you haven't revealed who the throuple will be yet, but if it isn't Emily and Vicky, I hope maybe an idea or soemthing comes to you that does change plans and allow this, if it isn't in the plans already.

For me, I think a childhood friend, who is loyal, and your long time love are two girls who I think just work together in the common sense of things. In my mind they would both want you to be happy, they usually make the most sense in getting along, they are mor open to sharing you, cause both have known you for a very long time and love and care for us. That is why I want this throuple. It also helps they are my two favorites, but still, just seeing their roles, makes them fit in my mind. Plus I woukd love to see them play with each other during threesomes too.

I don't care if it doesn't have a harem like many others, and am fine with choosing at times but this is my greatest desire and just wanted to explain my thought process and reasoning on this. I am still going to play your game regardless, but I would be lying if I said I wouldn't feel let down or that I wouldn't just care less overall without this possibility.

But yeah, like I said just me explaining why I think these two work and other thoughts. If that throuple isn't in the plans, I hope an idea or soemthing does change that. Other than that keep up the great work, haven't played yet, but will really soon.

 

[AlexMpog]

That's a great question about the scope of the relationships. As per the current story plan, there is one specific route planned where you will have two girls as love interests at the same time. However, as you all know, things can change over the course of development. A strong request from a supporter or a new idea could always lead me to make some slight adjustments to the story down the line. I'm always open to hearing what the community is interested in.

As for the harem question specifically, while I have five episodes already written, nothing would prevent me from adapting a part of the story in the future if there are enough suggestions or requests for it. But I can't make any guarantees on that right now. Thank you for the good wishes!

*sigh

Dude, first off, props - and I honestly envy your patience for going through this whole thread. Not gonna comment on the whole NTR / Anti-NTR topic, on this harem thing though...

Don’t take me wrong, it’s cool that you’re open to adapting things and listening to feedback. But at the same time - your game is either harem or it’s not. You can’t just take a story that wasn’t meant to be one and make it work with a couple of and I quote - "slight adjustments". Unless your LIs suddenly lose their soul and personality, that’s not really possible without breaking immersion.

What actually saddens me is seeing new devs pushed into these kinds of changes. I’ve seen cases where devs tried to "pivot" to a harem mid-story, and it ended up ruining their characters and writing - not to mention turning variables (choices and consequences) into a complete mess.

So yeah, by all means take feedback into consideration, but please don’t sacrifice your vision just to cater to demands. Otherwise, it won’t be your story / game anymore - it’ll just be everyone else’s.

And again, no insult intended - just my 2 cents, take it with a grain of salt.

P.S. On a side note - I really liked your release. Looking forward to the next update.

 

[Mr.Kin]

I didn't quite get it (english isn't my native language). Will certain characters die no matter what the player does? Or will we have options? For example, saving one by sacrificing another, etc. (if you're really looking for drama).

As i said earlier:

Not all characters will die, as I've mentioned before on the forum. That would be too predictable, not to mention too grim.

However, I can confirm that unfortunately, on some routes, a main character will die.

For example, let's say you're following Route 1. A character who doesn't appear much in Route 1, but is very present in Route 2, might be the one who dies in your playthrough. Conversely, if you're on a route where a certain character is heavily featured, it's probable that this character will not die on that specific path.

When it comes to the deaths, I really like to work with the concepts of the Butterfly Effect or Chaos Theory. A single different decision can change the future in significant ways. The deaths in the game are designed to feel like a consequence of those choices, not a predestined event.

It's more about that kind of narrative impact. I know this might please some and not others, but it's part of the experience of telling this kind of story.

Since it's not currently a harem game, I'm not interested in starting to play, and I'll probably abandon this thread. If you decide to make it a harem game in the future, I'm very likely to miss that announcement and continue ignoring the game. And I'm sure there will be others like me. If it's going to be a harem game, it's best to make that clear from the beginning, because most of those who leave because it's not a harem game won't come back even if it changes. But it's your game, and you decide how to run it.

I'm sorry to hear that, but I completely understand your interest and your position. I hope that in the future, you'll consider giving the game a chance and experience a bit of the story for what it is. All the best to you.

If you allow me, can I suggest another change?
If you can solve it, please give us the option to name the saves. This would make the routes much easier, especially with so many girls...Thank you for solving this.

I will look into it and see if that's possible. If it is, you can be sure that I'll be happy to implement that change for you.

Ok, sounds good. I know you haven't revealed who the throuple will be yet, but if it isn't Emily and Vicky, I hope maybe an idea or soemthing comes to you that does change plans and allow this, if it isn't in the plans already.

For me, I think a childhood friend, who is loyal, and your long time love are two girls who I think just work together in the common sense of things. In my mind they would both want you to be happy, they usually make the most sense in getting along, they are mor open to sharing you, cause both have known you for a very long time and love and care for us. That is why I want this throuple. It also helps they are my two favorites, but still, just seeing their roles, makes them fit in my mind. Plus I woukd love to see them play with each other during threesomes too.

I don't care if it doesn't have a harem like many others, and am fine with choosing at times but this is my greatest desire and just wanted to explain my thought process and reasoning on this. I am still going to play your game regardless, but I would be lying if I said I wouldn't feel let down or that I wouldn't just care less overall without this possibility.

But yeah, like I said just me explaining why I think these two work and other thoughts. If that throuple isn't in the plans, I hope an idea or soemthing does change that. Other than that keep up the great work, haven't played yet, but will really soon.

I remember you fell in love with both of them right from the beginning when I first announced the game. As I've said, I can't reveal too much, but in Part 2, which I will be releasing later this year, we will get a clear idea of what the first threesome will be.

*sigh

Dude, first off, props - and I honestly envy your patience for going through this whole thread. Not gonna comment on the whole NTR / Anti-NTR topic, on this harem thing though...

Don’t take me wrong, it’s cool that you’re open to adapting things and listening to feedback. But at the same time - your game is either harem or it’s not. You can’t just take a story that wasn’t meant to be one and make it work with a couple of and I quote - "slight adjustments". Unless your LIs suddenly lose their soul and personality, that’s not really possible without breaking immersion.

What actually saddens me is seeing new devs pushed into these kinds of changes. I’ve seen cases where devs tried to "pivot" to a harem mid-story, and it ended up ruining their characters and writing - not to mention turning variables (choices and consequences) into a complete mess.

So yeah, by all means take feedback into consideration, but please don’t sacrifice your vision just to cater to demands. Otherwise, it won’t be your story / game anymore - it’ll just be everyone else’s.

And again, no insult intended - just my 2 cents, take it with a grain of salt.

P.S. On a side note - I really liked your release. Looking forward to the next update.

No problem at all! I'm happy to answer questions. I'm not sure if you've followed the whole thread, but since I decided to create a game and tell a story, it's been a very solitary two-year journey—mostly just me talking to my own mind. That's why I'm truly happy to engage with all of you, even when the comments are critical or when discussions about certain topics arise.

To be clear, the core foundation of the game, the main plot, is already created and will not be changed. I know this approach will please some and maybe not others, but that's part of the context of developing a story.

As for certain things being adapted, they will only be implemented if a real opportunity or a great new idea comes up. Sometimes, a poll or a strong request from the community might lead to a change. However, the core vision for the game will be maintained in its essence. I understand your concern about not wanting the game to lose its core identity.

I'm here to learn with all of you. The last thing I ever want is to come across as arrogant or anything like that, especially because, as I've said, I'm quite new to the world of visual novels and even newer to the world of development.

To give you some perspective, I learned programming specifically to create this visual novel. I don't come from a programming or animation background. I'm a Law School graduate from my home country (which is not the United States) with a post-grad in Criminology and Criminal Law. Because of this, the laws and legal concepts might differ slightly, but let's assume the game is set in a country with a slightly different legal system.

The only related content I have experience with is that I worked as a photographer for a time to pay for university. That's why I have a little understanding of scene editing and composition, which has been very helpful.

I only got into the world of visual novels during the pandemic. As you all know, many of us felt very isolated in our homes, and I discovered this world. I ended up loving it, and about two years ago, I decided to create my own game. Because those two years were so focused on learning and creating, I admit I didn't follow the VN world very closely. That might be why I sometimes seem a bit naive about certain themes.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

I'm sorry to hear that, but I completely understand your interest and your position. I hope that in the future, you'll consider giving the game a chance and experience a bit of the story for what it is. All the best to you.

Unless the game allows me to end the game having a romantic relationship with all the LIs simultaneously, with their knowledge and consent, I see no reason to try the game, so I definitely won't do it. In any case, good luck.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Hey everyone,

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As for the harem question specifically, while I have five episodes already written, nothing would prevent me from adapting a part of the story in the future if there are enough suggestions or requests for it. But I can't make any guarantees on that right now. Thank you for the good wishes!

...

When I mentioned that certain content might be available as a "request for a supporter," I was thinking of it as bonus content, completely separate from the main game. I was considering two ways to do this: I could program a short side story (like a mini-DLC) that wouldn't be part of the official game, or I could simply create a self-contained, rendered video of the scene. Either way, to be clear, that content will no longer be in the official game's release.

Just two quick comments about these two section, if I may. I'll speak about the second one first:

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Now to the "harem question," and some of my thoughts there:

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As a final note to other users (and the dev as well to keep in mind) we don't know what the dev wants. We don't know the dev's goals or story ideas even if they share them because some people might use words or phrases and not mean the same thing we think they mean. All we can do is speculate about those things, so that is why we all are just suggesting things, and no one person's suggestion is more right than anyone else's suggestion in a vacuum since the dev's goals and story will dictate what is the "right" piece of advice. We all give advice, we all voice our thoughts and the dev will gage them against their vision and goals, that's all. Nothing more or less. At least that's how it should be, but there are some who insult anyone who gives advice contrary to their vision (not the dev's vision, but their vision of what they want the dev to do). And if I can say it, if you are the one who drops the first insult, you usually aren't the good guy, or rational one, in the scenario. Insulting someone else doesn't make you more right, it just makes you seem petty and afraid. Voice your opinion, give reasons for why you think you are correct, and let the chips fall where they may.

Anyway, that's all I've got for now. Again, best of luck dev, and I wish you success in whatever choices you make for the game.

 

[Raksha17]

As for certain things being adapted, they will only be implemented if a real opportunity or a great new idea comes up. Sometimes, a poll or a strong request from the community might lead to a change. However, the core vision for the game will be maintained in its essence. I understand your concern about not wanting the game to lose its core identity.

I would advise being very cautios with polls regarding content/direction. Those tend to invite conflict. Polls over cosmetic decisions on the other hand can be a way to involve a community. (Red dress or blue dress for a character / Date at the cinema or the beach)

 

[SteelyDan14]

*sigh

Dude, first off, props - and I honestly envy your patience for going through this whole thread. Not gonna comment on the whole NTR / Anti-NTR topic, on this harem thing though...

Don’t take me wrong, it’s cool that you’re open to adapting things and listening to feedback. But at the same time - your game is either harem or it’s not. You can’t just take a story that wasn’t meant to be one and make it work with a couple of and I quote - "slight adjustments". Unless your LIs suddenly lose their soul and personality, that’s not really possible without breaking immersion.

What actually saddens me is seeing new devs pushed into these kinds of changes. I’ve seen cases where devs tried to "pivot" to a harem mid-story, and it ended up ruining their characters and writing - not to mention turning variables (choices and consequences) into a complete mess.

So yeah, by all means take feedback into consideration, but please don’t sacrifice your vision just to cater to demands. Otherwise, it won’t be your story / game anymore - it’ll just be everyone else’s.

And again, no insult intended - just my 2 cents, take it with a grain of salt.

P.S. On a side note - I really liked your release. Looking forward to the next update.

I would agree with this. You do you. It's your story so tell it like you want to tell it, and don't make changes you don't want to make because of a few people.