Ruykiru

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i know that its a visual novel but brother, it sucked to see erik ignoring her and treating her bad without having any options to don't to that but still keeping refusing her.
also i would recommend that you let people change erik name to one of our choice in the beginning of the game(i did that with modding)
hopeful after this resolution erik stops being such a scaried good two shoes and properly grow some balls
the writing is very good frustrating sometimes but good.
Would you rather they fuck on the first day and this becomes a generic porn novel where incest doesn't matter? I know it can be frustrating at times, but as you probably saw that makes the moment when they overcome the taboo much better!

And besides, Lyna was also reckless and even molested him. I don't like double standards, so they both did things wrong. This is all new to them and they are full of emotions.

And no about the name, this is a multiple protagonist story. You could change the twins names before but I removed that. See the post below for reasons.
 
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Ruykiru

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Hold on... Did you take away our ability to name the character(s)? Why?
Can you rename characters in a book? One reason is I was tired of people fully self-inserting themselves as Erik and complaining, apparently being a shy man and responsible man in real life is not a thing here but what I'm gonna do. It's mostly kids here searching for power fantasty games, can't blame them if they don't get that characters are supposed to have depth and feelings that are not just hornyness 24/7.

But more importantly, the lyrics songs mention Lyna's name straight away and I also wanted to add some nicknames to her and I can't do that if you can rename her.

There's mods like Urm if you wanna change the text if you really want.
 
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Can you rename characters in a book? Cause I was tired of people fully self-inserting themselves as Erik and complaining, apparently being a shy man and responsible man in real life is not a thing here but what I'm gonna do, it's mostly kids here searching for power fantasty games, can't blame them if they don't get that characters are supposed to have depth and feelings that are not just hornyness 24/7.

Besides, and more importantly, the lyrics songs mention Lyna's name straight away and I also wanted to add some nicknames to her and I can't do that if you can rename her.
When tired of complaining about Mc's behavior, and then about the graphics, now need to complain about the name of main character... but no wonder, everyone will find something to complain about. Don't mind it :HideThePain:
 

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Would you rather they fuck on the first day and this becomes a generic porn novel where incest doesn't matter? I know it can be frustrating at times, but as you probably saw that makes the moment when they overcome the taboo much better!

And besides, Lyna was also reckless and even molested him. I don't like double standards, so they both did things wrong. This is all new to them and they are full of emotions.

And no about the name, this is a multiple protagonist story. You could change the twins names before but I removed that. See the post below for reasons.
like i said, i know this is a visual novel and the writing is good.

i just want to try to help you improve your craft, the story flow should be the same but it would be nice if the players where given a choice to be less rude and cruel to the sister.

and about "double standards", in my opinion on the wine night both where altered so i wouldn't consider that abuse, but each one to their own.

also for you information i also don't like chad protagonists that fk everything on the first day, some of my favorite games on this website are "Lust is stranger" and "The Mist", its just that sometimes is frustrating to see the "protagonist" erik being cruel to her it kinda takes a little the "immersion" part of it, but hey in the end its still your game and your story.

also i understand why you chose to remove the ability to change the protagonists names but i wouldn't really recommend that you remove players choice just because some people can be annoying.(there will always be haters, the important thing is to ignore them and continue to focus on your craft)
 
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Ruykiru

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i just want to try to help you improve your craft, the story flow should be the same but it would be nice if the players where given a choice to be less rude and cruel to the sister.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. However, I'd have to remake scenes instead of making new content and I also think adding dialogue 'choices' that end up in the same outcome in the long run wouldn't really add anything interesting either.
 
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Walter Victor

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I also think adding dialogue 'choices' that end up in the same outcome in the long run wouldn't really add anything interesting either.
Developers who do that feel that doing so allows the player to tailor a protagonist to the player's tastes.

But, obviously, doing so to make it meaningful over the full game would add planning time and coding time to development, and probably some render time. Then some players would almost certainly complain if you forgot one tiny detail about how they thought the protagonist should react.

Just keep doing what you're doing. It works for me, at least. (y):)
 

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Love this update. It´s as always well written. Mothers inner conflict with her children. The jealousy scene from sis. The conversation from the siblings in the bathroom, what finally leads to the sexual acts. I´m wondering how the story goes on with bro and mom cause the sister doesn´t like her brother makes out with her. (y):love:
 
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Love this update. It´s as always well written. Mothers inner conflict with her children. The jealousy scene from sis. The conversation from the siblings in the bathroom, what finally leads to the sexual acts. I´m wondering how the story goes on with bro and mom cause the sister doesn´t like her brother makes out with her. (y):love:
Is that what you think? Jealously is not the only thing that drives Lyna, you know :p
Hmm. Erik tells Lyna that he doesn't care about Helga, only Lyna. But, I don't think that's quite the truth. I think he's about as confused about her as he has been about Lyna. Perhaps he doesn't realize it yet.

What will happen if we have a scene something like Eric seeing Lyna lathering sunscreen all over Helga?

As I see it, the problem will be Helga letting Lyna get close to her again. If she does, Lyna will probably take care of everything.

Or do we first have to see Eric and Helga getting really close?

Whatever! I'm certainly looking forward to the next episode. Whoever gets closer to whomever next should be really hot. :D
 
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Hmm. Erik tells Lyna that he doesn't care about Helga, only Lyna. But, I don't think that's quite the truth. I think he's about as confused about her as he has been about Lyna. Perhaps he doesn't realize it yet.

What will happen if we have a scene something like Eric seeing Lyna lathering sunscreen all over Helga?

As I see it, the problem will be Helga letting Lyna get close to her again. If she does, Lyna will probably take care of everything.

Or do we first have to see Eric and Helga getting really close?

Whatever! I'm certainly looking forward to the next episode. Whoever gets closer to whomever next should be really hot. :D
Maybe Erik catches the two of them making out and he takes advantage of it. "If you can make out with mom, then I can also!"
 
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It's weird how much being attracted to someone changes everything. I found the first part of the game a complete chore. I had no idea why I was sticking with it. Nothing clicked.

Then the mom comes and holly fucking shit! Awesome stuff. Awesome.
 
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It's weird how much being attracted to someone changes everything. I found the first part of the game a complete chore. I had no idea why I was sticking with it. Nothing clicked.

Then the mom comes and holly fucking shit! Awesome stuff. Awesome.
Can you go into more detail after such a statement please? Feedback always welcomed.
What did you dislike in chapter 1, literally everything? Also what did you like about 'mommy'? ;)
 

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Can you rename characters in a book? One reason is I was tired of people fully self-inserting themselves as Erik and complaining, apparently being a shy man and responsible man in real life is not a thing here but what I'm gonna do. It's mostly kids here searching for power fantasty games, can't blame them if they don't get that characters are supposed to have depth and feelings that are not just hornyness 24/7.

But more importantly, the lyrics songs mention Lyna's name straight away and I also wanted to add some nicknames to her and I can't do that if you can rename her.

There's mods like Urm if you wanna change the text if you really want.
I appreciate it, I've always prefered games where you don't customize anything exactly because you really fuck the ability to insert that character into the narrative without tricks like dark souls/elden ring does, calling the player the ashen one/tarnished, or dragon's dogma with arisen. I don't have any problem putting myself into a character shoes without naming it after me, doesn't mean I like all genres though, as I wouldn't be able to put myself into the shoes of a character in a NTR game for example.

Came to say that I've played until the end of day 6, I'm really glad I've picked this one to play in the middle of the sea of games I have downloaded. This is great so far, not only the scenes are pretty hot with not much going on but you managed to sell their relationship really well with dialog that felt natural and not overly sugary, which is a trap many writers fall into, they act like siblings.
 
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