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He's right though, there's a double standard when it comes to girl on girl scenes. LIs can fuck each other, but people will scream bloody murder if another dick is involved. What this website really needs is a polygamy tag so people who dislike sharing in any shape or form can filter out such games.
What this website really needs is fewer users from TikTok. I do not like man on man action. How can you possibly deal with such an situation?

A. You open a protest group on Facebook to boycott the developer.
B. You start a discussion about society and moral values before you start asking to speak with the manager like a real Karen.
C. You realize this content is 100% optional, and you ignore it.
 

hysepReC

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What this website really needs is fewer users from TikTok. I do not like man on man action. How can you possibly deal with such an situation?

A. You open a protest group on Facebook to boycott the developer.
B. You start a discussion about society and moral values before you start asking to speak with the manager like a real Karen.
C. You realize this content is 100% optional, and you ignore it.
Mate, what are you even talking about? I don't see how your post is at all relevant to what i said. I simply called out the double standard when it comes to sharing a LI with another woman and sharing them with another man. The former is often accepted, while the latter isn't. That's it, nothing more. And no, the lesbian content in this game is not avoidable.
 
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Son of Durin

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Mate, what are you even talking about? I don't see how your post is at all relevant to what i said. I simply called out the double standard when it comes to sharing a LI with another woman and sharing them with another man. The former is often accepted, while the latter isn't. That's it, nothing more. And no, the lesbian content in this game is not avoidable.
What is it with these newbies these days? Looks like there are two more for the ignore list. The only games unlikely to have any girl/girl action are those aimed at all dude-on-dude action. Speaking of which, I bet both of them dream of FUTA so they can have both at the same time.
 

Hellster

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I know we do, obviously I was exaggerating. But they are waaaay less. And what I meant is that the MC (so 'me') always says and thinks it's hot or that he is ok with it - you don't have any way of saying anything against it usally.


Like I already said, there just are so few. Also it's not like the tags are always that accurate - lots of games have missing or inaccurate ones. So even excluding the lesbian tag doesn't always help - not to mention that games where it's optional for once also get filtered then. I try to look for those as well, but it isn't easy to find them cause of the thing with tags I already explained and it's not like the comments are that helpful as the general mindset is that those scenes are hot, so nobody complains if it is forced.
In the cases where i like a game, but i don't like the bi/lesbian content, i just use the skip button.
Unfortunately that content is not always avoidable, so skipping is your best option through those scenes, if that's the only factor you don't like about the game.
 
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kameohawk

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He's right though, there's a double standard when it comes to girl on girl scenes. LIs can fuck each other, but people will scream bloody murder if another dick is involved. What this website really needs is a polygamy tag so people who dislike sharing in any shape or form can filter out such games.
You're right, but the problem is the level of games that are 1 guy to 1 girl are basically nil. Even the ones which don't allow multiple partners like Sunshine Love or Melody still allow the MC to fool about until a crunch point. So if you selected that tag even those games wouldn't be included.

It really boils down to what sells and time and time again, harem wins. It's not even just in games, fan fiction has the same problem.
 

Cartageno

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I expect there's greater correlation than you're suggestion implies. I've never run across a guy that hasn't been intrigued by twins at the same time (which would include girl-on-girl action); I've never known anyone into pee/scat (nor have any of the women I've been with). It would be exceedingly rare to find a guy that doesn't like girl/girl, while it is also fairly rare to find someone that likes the more demeaning kinks (or at least to find someone that admits to it). When you do find the latter, they tend towards sadism and misogyny - probably because they fear women in reality.
(a) Kink shaming is not really liked on these forums,

(b) I believe you that you've never come across something like that, however it is dangerous to extrapolate from such a small sample size, especially since people hanging out both tend to have similar preferences from the beginning (not necessarily sexual/kink/fetish prefs, but in general) as well as only admit to those common in their peers.

Of course we also have to differentiate between "real life" kinks and "story" kinks. E. g. I wouldn't really be into multiplayer action (threesomes, orgies) in real life, while it can be nice in a game (or a porn vid or what have you).

You're right, but the problem is the level of games that are 1 guy to 1 girl are basically nil. Even the ones which don't allow multiple partners like Sunshine Love or Melody still allow the MC to fool about until a crunch point. So if you selected that tag even those games wouldn't be included.
I gave up on Sunshine Love when the dialogues became too tedious and long winded but in Melody you can even have two multi girl endings (Melody and Sophia with or without Xianne). Hoever, IIRC it does allow for "one true LI, no fooling around" if you so prefer, so I would count it as a game suitable for 1 to 1 stories. Admittedly, not all girls can have an ending like this (Sophia and Xianne again).

But yeah, if you prefer "Young man comes home after years of absence to his landlady and roommates and discovers his sexuality, mostly vanilla but a bit of spanking lite" you have a larger choice than with other preferences, that's for sure.
 

cxx

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well fi and xi were more lesbian than bi so no end with them.
 

hysepReC

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It really boils down to what sells and time and time again, harem wins. It's not even just in games, fan fiction has the same problem.
Yes, i know but if multiple people are in a relationship together and they are all fucking each other then that's not a harem, it's a polygamous relationship, which is different. That's why a tag for it would be useful. I don't expect it to happen though, because i imagine it would take way too much work to go back and retag everything.
 

Cartageno

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Yes, i know but if multiple people are in a relationship together and they are all fucking each other then that's not a harem, it's a polygamous relationship, which is different. That's why a tag for it would be useful. I don't expect it to happen though, because i imagine it would take way too much work to go back and retag everything.
To be fair, it is not the only occasion where F95 definitions and "real world" definitions differ, there are more tags which could (or maybe should) work differently, but apart from the effort needed to change all, a too detailed approach has its drawbacks, too.
 

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I expect there's greater correlation than you're suggestion implies. I've never run across a guy that hasn't been intrigued by twins at the same time (which would include girl-on-girl action); I've never known anyone into pee/scat (nor have any of the women I've been with). It would be exceedingly rare to find a guy that doesn't like girl/girl, while it is also fairly rare to find someone that likes the more demeaning kinks (or at least to find someone that admits to it). When you do find the latter, they tend towards sadism and misogyny - probably because they fear women in reality.
And who says that I don't like girl on girl (lesbian)? You know what? If I watch porn, that's what I watch - like almost all straight dudes. I am not watching porn here tho, I am playing games. Games where "I" am close to those characters and that's the difference. Like hysepReC said, I don't like sharing.

So please stop making assumptions about me or anyone else.
 

kameohawk

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Yes, i know but if multiple people are in a relationship together and they are all fucking each other then that's not a harem, it's a polygamous relationship, which is different. That's why a tag for it would be useful. I don't expect it to happen though, because i imagine it would take way too much work to go back and retag everything.
No I understand what you're saying, I just mean what peoples perception of a harem is. Many wouldn't make the distinction between a harem and a polygamous relationship. The term harem has taken on arms and legs and is completely different from the original term.

To be fair, it wouldn't be the hardest thing to do, the expectation would be on thread owners to add the tag themselves. The issue would be the arguments over what would be tagged as polygamous or harem, given my point about how the definition of such is wooly. Does a game where the guy doesn't make a commitment to one person count, like Sunshine Love?

It's especially hard to judge if a game is episodic so it could be hard to decide if a game is a harem or not until the very end. Some games might be abandoned before a distinction is made
 

hysepReC

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To be fair, it wouldn't be the hardest thing to do, the expectation would be on thread owners to add the tag themselves. The issue would be the arguments over what would be tagged as polygamous or harem, given my point about how the definition of such is wooly. Does a game where the guy doesn't make a commitment to one person count, like Sunshine Love?
Nah, Sunshine Love is fine as is. I just think it would be nice to be able to differentiate between harem games where the girls only fuck the MC and "harem" games where they fuck each other as well as the MC.
 

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does the mc realize he isn't related to any of these girls by blood in the least bit maybe adoption with abby but this mc is so dumb i bet he forgot to adopt her? so how is he gonna get into legal troubles by being with them?
 

Cartageno

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does the mc realize he isn't related to any of these girls by blood in the least bit maybe adoption with abby but this mc is so dumb i bet he forgot to adopt her? so how is he gonna get into legal troubles by being with them?
Has been discussed several times. But apart from the fact that I don't know much about Canadian law, he probably wouldn't. Although apart from the incest angle there is also the fact that relationships with dependants are also problematic and often forbidden, which could hold at least for Abby. But even if everything is legal that won't help him necessarily with other people shunning him if word gets out, especially since he's self employed and relies on a good image. And it doesn't help with the general view of morals he himself might have.

But just because something is legal does not mean there are no problems with doing it.
 

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Has been discussed several times. But apart from the fact that I don't know much about Canadian law, he probably wouldn't. Although apart from the incest angle there is also the fact that relationships with dependants are also problematic and often forbidden, which could hold at least for Abby. But even if everything is legal that won't help him necessarily with other people shunning him if word gets out, especially since he's self employed and relies on a good image. And it doesn't help with the general view of morals he himself might have.

But just because something is legal does not mean there are no problems with doing it.
As I mentioned up thread. Abby is not dependent on the MC. He is dependent on her. He lives, at her discretion, in a loft that she owns solely in her name. Both of them are legal adults. So essentially two roommates may decide to take their relationship to the next level. If it becomes public some folks will be put out, some will be fascinated, and the overwhelming majority won't care. Most people select a realtor for their competence, so it won't hurt his business much at all and will be offset by the publicity. Remember the adage eventually all publicity is good.
 
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taru

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game almost needs to be called how to self cuck lol I'm jk no it doesn't but damn i hope the point in where he grows a pair and stops cucking himself with the whole fake morals he got.
Has been discussed several times. But apart from the fact that I don't know much about Canadian law, he probably wouldn't. Although apart from the incest angle there is also the fact that relationships with dependants are also problematic and often forbidden, which could hold at least for Abby. But even if everything is legal that won't help him necessarily with other people shunning him if word gets out, especially since he's self employed and relies on a good image. And it doesn't help with the general view of morals he himself might have.

But just because something is legal does not mean there are no problems with doing it.
im not sure who is the dependent they're all over 18 abby owns the house has er own money the other two won't even be living with them and have their own jobs it feels at this point there is no dependent, meis parents who are trying to give her to him are what seems Japanese so incest is alread a thing in that culture. hes trying to hold onto ten things with a hand with four fingers at this point i dunno im probably complaining for no reason not theres is no legal or logical problem aside from shannon bein cucked by her daughters. and i dunno seems like his good "image" was being helped with the help of the lady who got him clients since her daughter kills the mom again im probably just complaining but i just want the mc to not keep taking a step forward and ten back cause i like the game. not to mention he give of stalker vibes when he has monologues about any girl has around. and that line smoking is a young persons game is just lazy wrong writing if it was true there wouldnt be willie nelson snoop cheech and chong or anyone else
 

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As I mentioned up thread. Abby is not dependent on the MC. He is dependent on her. He lives, at her discretion, in a loft that she owns solely in her name. Both of them are legal adults. So essentially two roommates may decide to take their relationship to the next level. If it becomes public some folks will be put out, some will be fascinated, and the overwhelming majority won't care. Most people select a realtor for their competence, so it won't hurt his business much at all and will be offset by the publicity. Remember the adage eventually all publicity is good.
Strictly legal possessions may be different from what is lived though. Especially if the girl is susceptible (? - used a translator for that word) and legal stuff differs depending on where you are. As I said, I don't think there's any real repercussions looming legally but it is a complicated issue.

Whether the overwhelming majority wouldn't care would probably depend on how it gets blown up by local media - if they so decide - and where you live. Have somebody framed as a sex offender and pervert and their career is over, whether it was correct or not. Not saying it must happen, but certainly something to think about beforehand, which is what Frank does. I get that it may be too much and would agree, however it is better to think twice before setting something into motion you cannot control later.

game almost needs to be called how to self cuck lol I'm jk no it doesn't but damn i hope the point in where he grows a pair and stops cucking himself with the whole fake morals he got.

im not sure who is the dependent they're all over 18 abby owns the house has er own money the other two won't even be living with them and have their own jobs it feels at this point there is no dependent, meis parents who are trying to give her to him are what seems Japanese so incest is alread a thing in that culture. hes trying to hold onto ten things with a hand with four fingers at this point i dunno im probably complaining for no reason not theres is no legal or logical problem aside from shannon bein cucked by her daughters. and i dunno seems like his good "image" was being helped with the help of the lady who got him clients since her daughter kills the mom again im probably just complaining but i just want the mc to not keep taking a step forward and ten back cause i like the game. not to mention he give of stalker vibes when he has monologues about any girl has around. and that line smoking is a young persons game is just lazy wrong writing if it was true there wouldnt be willie nelson snoop cheech and chong or anyone else
However, public perception does not need to be "logical". Especially if not everybody is guaranteed to hear your side of the story. (Sorry, I don't understand the second half of your post).
 
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