My personal impression is that the withdrawal of many devs from this site is more due to the general toxicity of large parts of the community. Even on VN, which generally gets a more positive response, there's often enough "Mimimi, when's the next update?", "5 months for a 1000 render update? Dev is milking people!!!". Here's another story: a dev whose thing is to tell a wholesome and relaxed story is regularly approached about the "lolis", all of whom are 18+. Among other things that have happened to him irl he finds this, understandably, tiresome and this is probably one of the reasons why he is less active. and similar stuff is something devs understandably don't want to have to deal with. And let's face it, if CNG were here, it would probably do more harm than good, as the chronically dissatisfied would never be satisfied anyway.well as a AVN grown in popularity so will the people that interact/post on the forum , at some point the dev will have to at least limit interacting or it will take away development time.
Caibdis is still interacting whit his fans but its mainly on his discord ,where hes pretty active i'd say
Also its not a good thing for every dev to be proactively interacting whit as it might actually have a negative effect
Example being that a month or two back there was a leak for a VN and a Compressor posted the compressed who then got flak for being "responsible" for the leak...
clearly its a dev who is against the piracy side off f95 but blaming a compressor was just wrong ,more venting his anger then anything else
in the end there are tons off devs active in their threads looking for feedback ,explaining lore etc.
For the most part i've only seen it have positive effects whit a few outliners where they can't handle some feedback because its written bluntly
That part I fully agree with you. A dev, not only here, but here for sure, need to have a very thick skin. And I like the few devs here, who have this JSTFU against any of those whiners.And let's face it, if CNG were here, it would probably do more harm than good, as the chronically dissatisfied would never be satisfied anyway.
well i disagree that there is a general "toxicity" thing in the community i can see how some might see it like that but that isn't how i see it TBHMy personal impression is that the withdrawal of many devs from this site is more due to the general toxicity of large parts of the community.
Even on VN, which generally gets a more positive response, there's often enough "Mimimi, when's the next update?", "5 months for a 1000 render update? Dev is milking people!!!".
Here's another story: a dev whose thing is to tell a wholesome and relaxed story is regularly approached about the "lolis", all of whom are 18+.
Among other things that have happened to him irl he finds this, understandably, tiresome and this is probably one of the reasons why he is less active. and similar stuff is something devs understandably don't want to have to deal with. And let's face it, if CNG were here, it would probably do more harm than good, as the chronically dissatisfied would never be satisfied anyway.
Dunno. Voicing an opinion is fine of course, however it is still possible to do in a civilized way, and regarding the issue of taste itself and not the people having a certain taste, and especially when it comes toThe VN community falls into the arts/entertainment part off the world ,which is based on the opinion of the consumer(s)
F95 is site where those people gather to share and discus about it, naturally people will disagree and clash over things ,and it being a internet site it will be harsher due to anonymity and all that.
I don't see it as toxic ,after all its just people sharing their opinion
certain kinks, and there certainly are those debated more fiercely than the one you mentioned, it pretty quickly breaks down, because there is a very vocal minority here who cannot stand any game that is not tailored to their specifications in this regard and will quickly start namecalling anybody who thinks otherwise.Loli's are a touchy subject for some people because they see the body type closely resembling something off a child and well you can guess where im going whit that and why it would make some speak out against it
the Dev you mentioned probably made the right choice to just take a more distant approach here
while it certainly would be nice if everyone always discussed everything in civil manner i doubt that would happenDunno. Voicing an opinion is fine of course, however it is still possible to do in a civilised way.
regarding the issue of taste itself and not the people having a certain taste, and especially when it comes to certain kinks.
there certainly are those debated more fiercely than the one you mentioned, it pretty quickly breaks down,
because there is a very vocal minority here who cannot stand any game that is not tailored to their specifications in this regard and will quickly start name calling anybody who thinks otherwise.
i mean true, in sense being civil about things will make you and/or your opinion more "acceptable"Saying "you need to have thick skin" is just making excuses for people who like being dicks. I, in fact, do not need thick skin - people can stay civil or go on the list.![]()
Give it a little while longer when you been around here....well i disagree that there is a general "toxicity" thing in the community i can see how some might see it like that but that isn't how i see it TBH
wdym? that in a few months ill change my mind and find f95 a toxic community?Give it a little while longer when you been around here....
My experience has been quite otherwise. But I fear we've left the thread's topic far behind...i've had my fair share off shit posting about my opinions still here and no "list" because i find it entertaining to interact whit people whit different opinions and views
Not toxic as such. Just ground down by the repetitve, cyclical arguments and debates that never change and just go on and on and on and on ad nauseum, gradually grinding away whatever faith in humanity you had left... Or maybe that's just me.wdym? that in a few months ill change my mind and find f95 a toxic community?
i doubt that, i've had my fair share off shit posting about my opinions still here and no "list" because i find it entertaining to interact whit people whit different opinions and views
yeah were going super off topicMy experience has been quite otherwise. But I fear we've left the thread's topic far behind...
Or here's one for you.so back on topic Vennesa/beth/MC threesome when?!
ow right that was in the planning, or was it 2 duo? nessa/becca & MC/bethso back on topic Vennesa/beth/MC threesome when?!
Don't you mean foursome? with Becca.
Abby seems to prudish whit a male partner for that to happenOr here's one for you.
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Maybe but they do say to beware the quiet ones.ow right that was in the planning, or was it 2 duo? nessa/becca & MC/beth
(we've been so busy shiting on the MC i forgot that was even planned)
Abby seems to prudish whit a male partner for that to happen
it will probably start pretty vanilla (when(if?) it eventually does happen)
you're rightMaybe but they do say to beware the quiet ones.![]()
I strongly disagree here. In my opinion it is best to err on the side of caution when interacting with others. Unless you want the whole net to become a screaming match. While there is no need to really bend your personality, cultures and people are different, and everybody should have it in them to first gauge a situation.some random stranger on the internet shouldn't have to adjust himself for others personal comfort in stating his opinion
I will take on any bets on that. I am confident that that will not be the case at all.Or here's one for you.
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That'd be a good scenario happening. At the same time, if the other 2 DPG members Lilly and Meiko give their approval to Beth's idea (since the other member Becca already did. Abby too), that could be a good opportunity to not only have a 4some but also to help Beth in fulfilling her task (and see if she surprises the protagonist with the news sometime later).so back on topic Vennesa/beth/MC threesome when?!
Don't you mean foursome? with Becca.