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UncleFredo

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Does anyone see things going south in this once Abby finds out?
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Becca explained that when Abby finds out she'll force Lilly to relinquish her position or will end her relationship with Lilly. Paraphrasing Becca's comment to Frank, if she has to choose between you or Lilly, she'll always choose you.
 
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Nice story. And I really appreciate the time and in-depth character portrayals. The girls and Frank actually act like real people with problems and baggage and boyfriends and exwives. I've really liked what I have played so far and hope the updates continue.
 

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I must say I was playing this update a week after its release because I was on holiday at the time of release. And I was reading some comments here through that week. And after finally playing this update I don't get them at all. The story is progressing exactly like I was expecting it to go. MC is finally accepting Lilith's and Becca's feelings (and his own towards them). He is still reluctant in case of Abby's feelings but is understandable. Beca is explaining this very nicely in this update. Ecverytioohng is great. I have some issues with the lawyer scene but in the case of characters? It was great stuff like always.
 

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Another great update for this story. Becca, the dangerous sex kitten strikes again. That's two of the girls, I'm looking forward to Abby getting in on the family. Personally I hope Lilly blabs and Abby decides to finally take what she wants as some kind of retribution. I can understand MCs reluctance with her. While not her real father, he was acting like her dad long before she was born. She probably started having feelings for him long before he even considered her that way.
 

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I must say I was playing this update a week after its release because I was on holiday at the time of release. And I was reading some comments here through that week. And after finally playing this update I don't get them at all. The story is progressing exactly like I was expecting it to go. MC is finally accepting Lilith's and Becca's feelings (and his own towards them). He is still reluctant in case of Abby's feelings but is understandable. Beca is explaining this very nicely in this update. Ecverytioohng is great. I have some issues with the lawyer scene but in the case of characters? It was great stuff like always.
There are always people complaining who essentially want this to be a different game. I agree that the update was great. The Becca scene was hot and showed that Frank is more accepting in his new role. The scene with the lawyers showed that Frank still has not completely processed his wife's death but also that he will listen to Abby. Abby being in control at the lawyers means that in the end Becca's harem will happen, even though Frank is sure to protest.
 
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Trikus

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I must say I was playing this update a week after its release because I was on holiday at the time of release. And I was reading some comments here through that week. And after finally playing this update I don't get them at all. The story is progressing exactly like I was expecting it to go. MC is finally accepting Lilith's and Becca's feelings (and his own towards them). He is still reluctant in case of Abby's feelings but is understandable. Beca is explaining this very nicely in this update. Ecverytioohng is great. I have some issues with the lawyer scene but in the case of characters? It was great stuff like always.
Agreed. This update is the day after he slept with Lilly for the first time. In the timeline Becca revealed the full extent of her plan and Lilly finally trusted the MC on Monday. On Tuesday, Lilly and MC had sex for the first time. MC has some after sex regrets but realizes he enjoyed it. On Wednesday he sleeps with Becca for the first time. He is less reserved about doing things with her and even takes the initiative.

Anyone expecting him to go from loving step father to incest loving, sex mad lothario in the space of three days doesn't understand character development.
 

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The scene with the lawyers showed that Frank still has not completely processed his wife's death but also that he will listen to Abby. Abby being in control at the lawyers means that in the end Becca's harem will happen, even though Frank is sure to protest.
I like that scene on character level, but I don't like it at plot level. There is so much wrong with what that woman did. And also reveal that she was giving MC clients is turning him into more of the screwup. I never agreed with people who were saying that but in that case, I must kinda agree. This is making him look very incompetent.
 

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I like that scene on character level, but I don't like it at plot level. There is so much wrong with what that woman did. And also reveal that she was giving MC clients is turning him into more of the screwup. I never agreed with people who were saying that but in that case, I must kinda agree. This is making him look very incompetent.
Well, in business, especially when it comes to word of mouth clients, networking is a key component. Going by his website, he seems to be a small fry in the real estate world, not to mention his money worries. Its not so much what you know, its who you know. The family were able to swing a few high profile customers his way, which is kinda how the business he is in works.
 
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pgm_01

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I like that scene on character level, but I don't like it at plot level. There is so much wrong with what that woman did. And also reveal that she was giving MC clients is turning him into more of the screwup. I never agreed with people who were saying that but in that case, I must kinda agree. This is making him look very incompetent.
Frank is not super aggressive in anything, including his business. The rich lady sending a few clients his way is not really weakness on Frank's part, that is how a lot of small businesses get clients, through others recommendations.

Frank is a strange character, particularly for the MC in an adult VN. Most MCs are very balls to the wall, YOLO sorts who grab and take what they want, or are calculating and scheming their way toward their goal. This game essentially turns the incest game trope on its head, instead of the daughters being the ones being led to the ultimate plan, the daughters are the ones doing the leading. This makes Frank a bit weaker than the normal MC, but he isn't as weak as, for example, the daughter from Dating My Daughter who often comes across as unable to function without her Daddy. Frank would fight like hell for his girls and was not willing to be a doormat while his 2nd wife cheated on him so he is not so weak willed that he submits to everything all the time. He does, however second guess himself. With Becca and Lilly we see him go through with it then in that post nut clarity second guessing himself. He isn't so strong that he is controlling others but he is not so weak that he is completely controlled either.

The rich old lady may have pushed a few clients toward Frank but Frank was competent enough to do the work and do it well. Frank was not so completly passive that he only relied on what he was given but he is also not driven to be the top real estate agent in the area. Frank wants enough to be happy and to do what he has to for his family but not to be the best at anything.
 
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Trikus

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He does, however second guess himself. With Becca and Lilly we see him go through with it then in that post nut clarity second guessing himself. He isn't so strong that he is controlling others but he is not so weak that he is completely controlled either.
And the reason why he second guesses himself is completely believable. He is conflicted with wanting to be a good father and being a lover to these girls. He doesn't have any of the second guessing when he was with Shannon, Jessica or Elizabeth.
 

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I must say I was playing this update a week after its release because I was on holiday at the time of release. And I was reading some comments here through that week. And after finally playing this update I don't get them at all. The story is progressing exactly like I was expecting it to go. MC is finally accepting Lilith's and Becca's feelings (and his own towards them). He is still reluctant in case of Abby's feelings but is understandable. Beca is explaining this very nicely in this update. Ecverytioohng is great. I have some issues with the lawyer scene but in the case of characters? It was great stuff like always.
Some folks don't really care about the story or anything resembling realistic human feelings and struggles of conscience - they just want to get into every hole of every female character as fast as they can and scream "you're my little slut bitch!" as they creampie their asshole. I'm sure some game designers cater to those lesser minds, but I'm glad this one isn't doing so.
 
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Some folks don't really care about the story or anything resembling realistic human feelings and struggles of conscience - they just want to get into every hole of every female character as fast as they can and scream "you're my little slut bitch!" as they creampie their asshole. I'm sure some game designers cater to those lesser minds, but I'm glad this one isn't doing so.
It's about finding a balance. 20 clicks of "I wanna fuck them but I shouldn't" every time the girls try to get with MC gets boring really quick.
 

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Becca explained that when Abby finds out she'll force Lilly to relinquish her position or will end her relationship with Lilly. Paraphrasing Becca's comment to Frank, if she has to choose between you or Lilly, she'll always choose you.
I am going to throw this out there and if by some miracle it ends up in the game it would be awesome (although it is not the style of the game :().
CAT FIGHT!!!
 
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I am going to throw this out there and if by some miracle it ends up in the game it would be awesome (although it is not the style of the game :().
CAT FIGHT!!!
you know...that wouldn't be far-fetched. Lilly is basically cucking Abby and I don't think Abby would be very happy about that. And then it would offer a great opportunity for the make-up and everybody getting on the same page for the harem.
 
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Some folks don't really care about the story or anything resembling realistic human feelings and struggles of conscience - they just want to get into every hole of every female character as fast as they can and scream "you're my little slut bitch!" as they creampie their asshole. I'm sure some game designers cater to those lesser minds, but I'm glad this one isn't doing so.
Not so much.
Few of us want to see Frank treat his daughters like cum sluts. We are just so very very very tired of his endless internal unchanging monologue that never seems to cause him to say no. Three women. NOT his blood. All now grown adults, who rose to defend him in a bitter divorce. All of whom have made it clear that they view him as THE adult male with whom they want to spend the rest of their lives.

13-14 days game time. Too soon. Blah Blah Blah. No one complains that the girls have moved too quickly. Frank's defenders only focus on his timeline, and accept without comment that the girls are perfectly believable in their individual timelines. Good for the goose is good for the gander.

Most of us are fine with Frank's hesitancy, if we aren't subjected to his whiny monologue for most of every update. Dial back the ratio of whine to game progress and we can all enjoy this otherwise excellent VN. But make no mistake, no matter the meta justification for an irritating narrative, if the game isn't enjoyable overall it's not going to succeed.

Past time for Frank to man up and dramatically reduce his internal hand wringing, and acknowledge, that however uncomfortable he is with this transition, he and his daughters all want the same thing.

I look forward to Frank's wedding day with all three of his daughters, as they are escorted down the aisle he has his last whiny episode before they all get married and waltz away to enjoy the rest of their rather unusual lives.
 

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They should introduce a new tag: "simp" or "bumbling idi0t". This is what most MCs in the recent VNs look like. Always being sorry, always profusely begging pardon on his knees for whatever minimal thing. I can't suspend disbelief impersonating into such weak grubs.

"Internal monologue" my bum. This is meant to be the man of the house, to wear pants, not to be a whiny half cuck.

Instead he is weak and cheated all day long, taking children of anyone else. Totally the man you DON'T want to be and totally not the father you'd want to have if you were a child.
Your comment might not be a popular one but damn you are right. Even Becca tells Frank he needs to grow some balls. Frank has skipped the simp part and landed face first in the bumbling idiot category.
 
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Most of us are fine with Frank's hesitancy, if we aren't subjected to his whiny monologue for most of every update. Dial the ratio of whine to game progress and we can all enjoy this otherwise excellent VN. But make no mistake, no matter the meta justification for an irritating narrative, if the game isn't enjoyable overall it's not going to succeed.
This pretty much sums it up.
 

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No... not gonna do it,,, not gonna say it.
I'm not going point it out again.
Been there,,, done that.

So.......
To all that don't like the monologue of the mc,,, it's not gonna change.
You might as well go and play something else.
 
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