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From reading the thread, is there anyone still liking the MC, seems to be one of he most hated MC around these parts :HideThePain:
I don't hate him, nor do I necessarily like him. Kinda reminds me of me tbh. He's very deliberate of his actions so he holds a semblence of control, because of what he's lost over the years. He feels closer to a real person than most other games, as he's always thinking of consequences and changing your mindset isn't easy to do.

I get that people don't like him for his many flawed qualities, and that this is deemed a porn game so the story is meant to be mostly secondary, but this has also been a game I've restarted more times than only a handful of other games because of that fact. It's evident this isn't for everyone and the story can feel convoluted at times. But to me that makes it more grounded in reality (even though there are some convenient coincidences)
 

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Frank is not the protagonist of this story, we merely play from his POV; the actual protagonist is Becca, as she's driving this forward. And Frank is getting these ladies because 1) it's written that way and 2) Frank is canonically handsome, fit, tall, hugely cocked, and good at sex. But as I've posted before, he's written denser than any harem manga's male lead and doesn't detect any interest from women until they're stripping his pants off after tackling him.
 
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Frank is not the protagonist of this story, we merely play from his POV; the actual protagonist is Becca, as she's driving this forward. And Frank is getting these ladies because 1) it's written that way and 2) Frank is canonically handsome, fit, tall, hugely cocked, and good at sex. But as I've posted before, he's written denser than any harem manga's male lead and doesn't detect any interest from women until they're stripping his pants off after tackling him.
That can be used to make the story interesting even humorous in the short term. But the long term? His inability to fucking do something, anything of his own volition, tuns the story into a painful slog. This isn't slow burn, this is chinese water torture.
 

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That can be used to make the story interesting even humorous in the short term. But the long term? His inability to fucking do something, anything of his own volition, tuns the story into a painful slog. This isn't slow burn, this is chinese water torture.
it's a science experiment to see just how dense he has to make Frank, before he forms a gravity well. At present, his density seems strong enough to only attract fairly young women, but if he tries really hard he might be able to step up to the planetary scale.
 

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The only thing that puts me off about the MC in this story is his constant moral dilemma nonsense that just simply makes him a guy that would not have this life. He doesn't have independent wealth (the ultimate nerd needs some good looking women trump card). It is not reasonable to accept that such a person would or ever could perpetuate the lifestyle he's now living. Seriously, young lovelies like these would not find themselves drawn to such a guy other than a loving daddy(but he's such a square) or a really nice guy who sold us this apartment (but he's a little odd). If he has any "sex appeal" it is so highly masked by his 'now, now, dear' bs and constant behavior policing like he's everyone's parish pastor. Sure, ok I'll take is as believable that shit would be so sexually attractive to young pretty women with hormones raging. Even more unlikely would be that ALL of them would be tripping over the chance to be with him the way they are.

But as I said in the first line, it's a story. A fiction to boot. Like or don't like what you wish, but I offer no suggestions to the devs of any of these games. I say if you want to be a writer, let's see what you've got. As a reader you've kept my interest this far, so good work. I've read a lot of stories in my lifetime with parts and characters I didn't like. Many of them I still read through. Some of them I still overall liked in spite of the parts or characters I hated. The others that got too bizarre or never got to the point I would quit reading and move on to another story.

My only real fear for this story is it will drag on forever. My biggest hope is that some time soon this story is brought to a climax and equitably concluded. I know that goes against the grain of a lot of players in 'love' with characters or whatever, but IMO this pretty good story has gone on long enough that it's starting to stale a bit. There are always sequels and spinoffs and such but this particular storyline should really be wrapped up before it turns into a soap opera. Characters don't have to disappear with stories ending. They can be written into fresh new storylines.
I agree, i feel like that is an issue with a lot of visual novels and anime, is that lot of male characters are not portrayed realistically, and the sexual dynamics are almost fantasy. there is absolutely no way a weak man like frank would have so many women jumping to be with him, its very hard for even rich confident and powerful men to maintain a harem or multiple women. but then that is why these games are popular, a lot of people like to live a fantasy. and live vigorously through this games, and lets be honest the devs are almost always projecting themselves into these games. regardless i think its a great game and i hope he has a solid plan to end it.
 

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I agree, i feel like that is an issue with a lot of visual novels and anime, is that lot of male characters are not portrayed realistically, and the sexual dynamics are almost fantasy. there is absolutely no way a weak man like frank would have so many women jumping to be with him, its very hard for even rich confident and powerful men to maintain a harem or multiple women. but then that is why these games are popular, a lot of people like to live a fantasy. and live vigorously through this games, and lets be honest the devs are almost always projecting themselves into these games. regardless i think its a great game and i hope he has a solid plan to end it.
You really have no idea what you're talking about have you or even fully comprehended the story.
 

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Last shared graphic from CNG says estimated today, might be a new one since then though.

That will be main story (1.24.1 to be specific)
However, the last updates were still delayed by about a week or so. CNG is definitely a more reliable developer than other DAZ3D users, but with all due respect, time estimations are not his forte.
 
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However, the last updates were still delayed by about a week or so. CNG is definitely a more reliable developer than other DAZ3D users, but with all due respect, time estimations are not his forte.
Yes, they were delayed from an estimated 15th release, to the 20th, and it very well may end up that he delays further... but he hasn't shot himself in the foot to the extent of some other devs to where this has become essentially a running joke. He at least has the brains to post it as an estimate, and IIRC he usually isn't too far off.

I'm not on the discord or any of the platforms that CNG uses for posting content/updates, so I don't have the most up-to-date info.. was just sharing along the last thing that was shared here, and clarify that it is a main story update, not side content like someone above claimed.
 
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ccxvidonaferens

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I'm not on the discord or any of the platforms that CNG uses for posting content/updates, so I don't have the most up-to-date info.. was just sharing along the last thing that was shared here, and clarify that it is a main story update, not side content like someone above claimed.
As of 18:15 BST then it is still a release estimate of 20th June. Based on elements within the story I presume the dev is in Canada so I guess any release timing ought to take that into account.
 

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As of 18:15 BST then it is still a release estimate of 20th June. Based on elements within the story I presume the dev is in Canada so I guess any release timing ought to take that into account.
Even worse, IIRC, west coast/Vancouver area ;)
If that is the case, it is just shortly after 12pm, so he has loads of time to make the release window.

And even if he doesn't, it is what it is. I'd expect to see some sort of post about it if he doesn't have it out in the next 24 hours or so.
 

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CNG has confirmed on discord that it is coming out later today. So calm your horse's ppl. :p
But I would suspect that most ppl here are hoping for a leak. So I hope for the CNG sake that we will have to wait a while longer. But going by how it's been previously. It will prob be here within the hour of release.
 
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