udogu

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Not every developer wants to just "give up" their assets they created and (took multiple days/weeks/months/years to make) and story they wrote for free for someone else to profit off of.

If their assets were bought like a lot are nowadays (reason you see so many of the same characters in every game) that would be different, then someone else could just go "buy" those same assets and take parts of the story and finish it.
But, if he never plans to work on the game again, what is the point of hording those assets?

It's just a waste.
 

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But, if he never plans to work on the game again, what is the point of hording those assets?

It's just a waste.
Some here speculate the dev's glorious relationship will end, and he'll be back lol. The dev was creating new comics, and saw them posted on svscomics I believe.
 

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Some here speculate the dev's glorious relationship will end, and he'll be back lol. The dev was creating new comics, and saw them posted on svscomics I believe.
SVS just reposts shit from here and other sites...

But, if he never plans to work on the game again, what is the point of hording those assets?

It's just a waste.
I just said why :oops:
 
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Yes, and it wasn't a very good answer.

"He doesn't want other people to profit off his work."

Which implies that he intends to profit off his assets instead.

But if he's earning nothing, then I reiterate; what is the point?
Of course it's a good answer. If the Dev doesn't want to share his work that's his prerogative whether you disagree or not.
 

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Yes, and it wasn't a very good answer.

"He doesn't want other people to profit off his work."

Which implies that he intends to profit off his assets instead.

But if he's earning nothing, then I reiterate; what is the point?
Imo it's actually better this way. Havn't seen any good game picked up from another one trying to continue an abandoned game. Most actually got abandoned after one or two releases, too. Or it was trash from a "wannabe" developer with only re-using the 3D models. Because why should a good dev continue this old game if he can do an own, new one?
 
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Yes, and it wasn't a very good answer.

"He doesn't want other people to profit off his work."

Which implies that he intends to profit off his assets instead.

But if he's earning nothing, then I reiterate; what is the point?
If you make/create something, but are not using it: it should now belong to me or somebody else!
That is the reasoning you are using... :unsure:o_O
 

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Imo it's actually better this way. Havn't seen any good game picked up from another one trying to continue an abandoned game. Most actually got abandoned after one or two releases, too. Or it was trash from a "wannabe" developer with only re-using the 3D models. Because why should a good dev continue this old game if he can do an own, new one?
Fair enough.

I just hate it when a quality game has significant progress and the dev just decides to drop it.
 

udogu

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If you make/create something, but are not using it: it should now belong to me or somebody else!
That is the reasoning you are using... :unsure:o_O
Even copyright law doesn't last forever, and eventually, all IPs will become free for anyone to use.

Hording assets from which you do not intend to profit makes no sense, and there are many examples of IPs where other creatives continued the work of those who started them, bringing those works to a conclusion. The Wheel of Time novels, for example.
 
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Even copyright law doesn't last forever, and eventually, all IPs will become free for anyone to use.

Hording assets from which you do not intend to profit makes no sense, and there are many examples of IPs where other creatives continued the work of those who started them, bringing those works to a conclusion. The Wheel of Time novels, for example.
Not really a good comparison. Robert Jordan wanted someone to finish the story if he passed. He asked Harriet to find someone she found worthy (and she did). He had also made notes for most of how he wanted to end the story which helped Sanderson a lot to continue in Jordans style.
 
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Copyright does not apply here. And even if it did: Authors copyrights often last till xx years after their death. Others taking over IP's is all at the prerogative and agreement of the Author. You can ask Kaffekop, but I wouldn't hold out hope. You can make a request but have no ground to stand on, not legally and not morally. We all pirates here ;)
 

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Not really a good comparison. Robert Jordan wanted someone to finish the story if he passed. He asked Harriet to find someone she found worthy (and she did). He had also made notes for most of how he wanted to end the story which helped Sanderson a lot to continue in Jordans style.
The only difference between the two is the will to see the work continued.
 

udogu

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Copyright does not apply here. And even if it did: Authors copyrights often last till xx years after their death. Others taking over IP's is all at the prerogative and agreement of the Author. You can ask Kaffekop, but I wouldn't hold out hope. You can make a request but have no ground to stand on, not legally and not morally. We all pirates here ;)
I'm not making a legal or moral argument, nor did I make the claim that copyright applied in this case. I just used it as an example of how no one owns any idea permanently.

If you want to classify my argument, then giving the people what they want is purely a matter of politics.

People would like to see the game finished. The best way to do that is to get the story notes and assets.
 
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People would like to see the game finished. The best way to do that is to get the story notes and assets.
I think it would be really difficult for anyone other than Kaffekop to finish the game in the way it was meant to be finished.

Any continuation will be different than the original. Even if Kaffekop would share the rough story outline with someone, the result will still be different.
 
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