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What happened is they tried to rush out the 'finished' game once patreon started throwing out bans left and right so they could move on to a game they thought was less likely to get them kicked off the platform. I sort of have my doubts, but it would be cool if the extended single endings actually get finished for this 'special' release.
 
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So yeah. I play it and it turns out the ultra triple fudge coated super special awesome version is just...sketches




So....the game still isn’t finished. After all this fuckery. After releasing the game on this state after collecting thousands of dollars. The final edition is literally....unfinished scraps of work. And they didn’t even fix the broken issues with the game



So like yeah...officially fuck this guy. He deserves that rather derogatory name people have given him.






The worst part is...the sketches are pretty good and way better than the shitty final scenes we got. These literally unfinished sketches....are better than the actual finished ones in game. Just shows HOW Terrible the finished stTe of fhis game is

What happened is they tried to rush out the 'finished' game once patreon started throwing out bans left and right so they could move on to a game they thought was less likely to get them kicked off the platform. I sort of have my doubts, but it would be cool if the extended single endings actually get finished for this 'special' release.
That would make sense and be fine if they didn’t fucking act like nothing happened and explain this shit and fucking apologize for all


seriously. Fuck him
 

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Your not saying anything that isent new this is how the developer is unfortunately. All the money he spent on creating a soundtrack for the game could have gone to the content. The VA is top notch.

I think the main problem is that a lot of these developers are trying to emulate the japanese VN and are doing a poor job of it
 

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Your not saying anything that isent new this is how the developer is unfortunately. All the money he spent on creating a soundtrack for the game could have gone to the content. The VA is top notch.

I think the main problem is that a lot of these developers are trying to emulate the japanese VN and are doing a poor job of it
That's the thing though...they aren't really top notch. They do surprisingly well for the dirty deed they have to do, but aside from Jane's actress they can range from okay to horrible

The art too.....it's good with moments of REALLY good here and there but it's basically at the top of amateur with some obvious mistakes

I think thus guy's problem is a lot simpler..incompetence and laziness. There were problems with dvelopment that show this guy really had no idea what he was doing nor the time and effort required to do what he was trying to do or the will to finish it
 
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So yeah. I play it and it turns out the ultra triple fudge coated super special awesome version is just...sketches

So....the game still isn’t finished. After all this fuckery. After releasing the game on this state after collecting thousands of dollars. The final edition is literally....unfinished scraps of work. And they didn’t even fix the broken issues with the game.

So like yeah...officially fuck this guy. He deserves that rather derogatory name people have given him.

The worst part is...the sketches are pretty good and way better than the shitty final scenes we got. These literally unfinished sketches....are better than the actual finished ones in game. Just shows HOW Terrible the finished state of this game is.

That would make sense and be fine if they didn’t fucking act like nothing happened and explain this shit and fucking apologize for all

seriously. Fuck him

Wait, what? To satisfy my own curiosity, what is the derogatory name people have given him?

I might be biased, because this is the only release I've ever played, but this is one of the best games with the hypnotism/mind control kink I've encountered. That might say more about the genre being rare than this being a great effort, but I would still place it in my top three, and after those there's a steep drop-off, which makes it look amazing to me by comparison. The pacing is absolutely perfect, (I fucking hate when the PC can just make anyone do anything instantly, I thought the way you got gradually more powerful every day was really awesome!), and the writing is pretty good for the most part. I struggle to get through some visual novels, but I didn't have that problem here. I'm not too fond of some of the dirty-talk by Noelle, but that's hard to do right, imho.

I don't think the sketches were better than the in game art either; the sketches have some crazy proportions, and the in game art looks a lot more natural to me. I wish the final scenes had been implemented to see the final versions with those proportions, but I was pretty happy with the base game, and they felt like nice little extras to me. Plus, the harem ending is the one I care the most about, and that seemed fine.

It sounds like the dude could've handled his shit better, but still... if he's an incompetent, lazy asshole, with no idea what he's doing, this is an amazing game coming from that. I'm all of those things, and I wouldn't produce a third of the quality here, even if you gave me a few releases to work on it. I'm usually very critical, and rarely the type of person to say this, but I think you're focusing just a bit too much on the bad here, when there's actually a lot of good.
 

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its not like the game is bad. Its just where it should be its really not. I understand that because of peatron issues or wherever that they could not dilever on what they promised. But that should not stop you from saving some money to make the game better.
 
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Wait, what? To satisfy my own curiosity, what is the derogatory name people have given him?

I might be biased, because this is the only release I've ever played, but this is one of the best games with the hypnotism/mind control kink I've encountered. That might say more about the genre being rare than this being a great effort, but I would still place it in my top three, and after those there's a steep drop-off, which makes it look amazing to me by comparison. The pacing is absolutely perfect, (I fucking hate when the PC can just make anyone do anything instantly, I thought the way you got gradually more powerful every day was really awesome!), and the writing is pretty good for the most part. I struggle to get through some visual novels, but I didn't have that problem here. I'm not too fond of some of the dirty-talk by Noelle, but that's hard to do right, imho.

I don't think the sketches were better than the in game art either; the sketches have some crazy proportions, and the in game art looks a lot more natural to me. I wish the final scenes had been implemented to see the final versions with those proportions, but I was pretty happy with the base game, and they felt like nice little extras to me. Plus, the harem ending is the one I care the most about, and that seemed fine.

It sounds like the dude could've handled his shit better, but still... if he's an incompetent, lazy asshole, with no idea what he's doing, this is an amazing game coming from that. I'm all of those things, and I wouldn't produce a third of the quality here, even if you gave me a few releases to work on it. I'm usually very critical, and rarely the type of person to say this, but I think you're focusing just a bit too much on the bad here, when there's actually a lot of good.
the derogatory name is pretty offensive and probably not welcome in polite circles so....I won't be repeating it here



By "sketches better than in game art" I meant day 5 onward in terms of being "Final sex scenes". Everyone's final scene was abysmal. Barely finished, badly drawn, bad proportions(even worse than the sketches), weird expressions(those faces actually became a meme for a little while), lazy pov, floating penis, horrendous "Animation" etc. obviously rushed and really awkward

The final harem orgy is similarly rushed with it being poorly/awkwardly drawn and implemented even worse (that scene is buggy as shit for a reason.) and it was almost better with the improved cgs....that only flash for 2 seconds. Like at least the sketches are actual sex scenes with the characters finally. That's what I mean





In terms of it being one of the best hypno games...probably? This genre isn't really my thing but the hypnotism here was handled better than the vast majority of lewd stuff I've ever seen. usually it's just magic mind control but here it's pretty well written.






In terms of the incompetence and laziness...you need to have followed the development since the beginning. Took this guy years, YEARS to produce a game that other people would finish in months. Like seriously this whole game is the equivalent of one good update for other games...

the up[date schedule was ridiculously slow for the 4th and 5th day which I'm pretty sure were being hyped for like a full year. Every single time he had a release date it got delayed.

Days 1-3 were pretty great. Day 4 is when things started to decline. Day 4 things were still good but starting to fall off. the lazyness started setting in but nothing...damning. We started getting signs of things to come with the lazy sex scene cg situation

The finale was where the infamous part comes in. Ridiculous delays. Still somehow managed to be rushed, everything in it was clearly just trying to reach the end as quick as possible, almost everyones character went to shit, final scenes were rushed, endings were rushed(before the sketches we basically had nothing), it was buggy as shit EVEN MORE THAN IT IS NOW, it was just awful content after all the delays...and then there were multiple updates afterward....that STILL didn't fix the major issues....and the major issues are STILL NOT FIXED!



And honestly, the game is lacking even if it was properly finished. Lack of paths, minimal interactions outside of the scenes not really that many scenes, the animations are bad, the art is inconsistent as fuck(CG noelle and sprite noelle are like....entirely different people) There are a couple bad endings but they're mostly the same.

So yeah, poorly handled in terms of PR, took years to produce an unfinished broken buggy version of an already flawed relatively small game despite having a lot of money and a full team. That's where the charges of incompetence and laziness come from





As for the writing its the second best part about this(obviously the art style/designs are the best part)...for the first few days. Pacing is good(for the first few days) characters are well handled(for the first few days, with flashes of goodness in the last one) hell at some points every once in awhile, the writing reaches into GREAT territory at least for a porn game. Everything about Jane's character, for instance, is like. shockingly good. Like there LAYERS here. But yeah I ended up remembering why I ended up liking it so much and why I was so disappointed when it went to shit from day 5 onward.

But even in terms of writing there's a huge flaw the sex scenes.. The guy can't write em. Some of laziest sex scenes I've ever seen writing wise pretty much with the exception of jane(who once again has the best writing in the game) Dude is terrible at describing things IF he describes them at all. Dialogue is below porn tier somehow. Hearing the voice actors, bless their hearts, try to deliver these awkward lines is cringe......Especially since a lot of the lines clearly were NOT written to be said out loud by an actual human. Its fine sometimes, but incredibly cringe at others.

But the worst part is that...like the scenes go by so fast and they lack any sort of passion. Like seriously. do an experiment to test this out. repeat one of the sex scenes in this game....but don't look at the art. Just he text. Like, it's like this guy doesn't want to do sex scenes at all, thats how little he seems to care. Jane is about the only one that actually gets good scenes in this regard(again)

Of course all the problems get worse in day 5. The dialogue becomes laughably unbearable, the sex scenes....just...wow. The characters go to shit for the most part, just...whoo boy is it godawful

But yeah OTHER THAN THAT. The writing is really good for the first few days especially by porn game standards.

The game had a lot of potential to be pretty damn good and it delivered on...maybe 59% of that potential but yeah. It's a rushed unfinished version of what would have been a pretty nice, but flawed/inconsistent game.
 
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the derogatory name is pretty offensive and probably not welcome in polite circles so....I won't be repeating it here
This is a pirate porn forum. Don't worry about polite circles. You can always put it in a spoiler so people can choose to not see it if they don't want to.
 
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Falvfd

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Excuse me. Can somebody tell me what should happen when i acces something from bonus or bloopers gallery? Or there is nothing?
 

Falvfd

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@rickpool98 i have the 1.5 version. I tried to instal the gallery fix mod, but because i play the game on android, i don't know how i should make it work. I was just asking.
 

Falvfd

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Plus @rickpool98 i don't know if you mean the extra from below the android downloads. If that is the gallery fix one, yeah, i don't know how to use it. If not, please tell me.
 

rickpool98

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Well if you have the latest version of the game and have downloaded the Extra:

from this page

You extract in snow dazes's game folder (the folder that says game) then after that is done just click on the SnowDaze application file.

Once the game has finished loading go to extras setting then from there everything is just self explanatory
 
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