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Diving In again to dip my toesies into the ant hill of pain.

Looks like you are mostly getting along! :sneaky:

I think it's great and I also think a successful relationship has to have both parties able to try to give more than the other and not just take, be able to vocalize if something is missing or upsets them, and be able to accept that if you fight nobody really wins you both lose and it strains everything. Get good at losing and not holding a grudge about it. Get over stuff quickly.

And of course even with all this sometimes people are just assholes and do stupid things because I think some people are just wired to hate a good thing. They have to destroy it, and the grass is always greener on the other side.
Biggest killers I have seen are a lack of communication & an unwillingness to truly compromise (see it as favors now 'owed' or resent giving something up, keeping score etc). Another huuuge one honestly as well seems to be peoples social groups, some people fall in with a new crowd (or a dynamic within that crowd changes) and that group act like termites to a previously healthy relationship.
 
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Biggest killers I have seen are a lack of communication & an unwillingness to truly compromise (see it as favors now 'owed' or resent giving something up, keeping score etc). Another huuuge one honestly as well seems to be peoples social groups, some people fall in with a new crowd (or a dynamic within that crowd changes) and that group act like termites to a previously healthy relationship.
I've seen these too and more. There are so many things tha and variables to impact people it's a dictionary length list.

If people are compatible and both of them want to continue, and put effort into it, it probably will. Lots of people don't, or do but after years of compromise they find the last compromise and the end of their patience. It's all very sad but it happens constantly. :confused:
 

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Ahhh, there's the shitty meme, probably gone now but will dismantle the joke of a word salad response
what?
So to be clear you are arguing that an abbreviation of the japanese term derived from English is the only abbreviation, and that Lolita complex has never, ever been abbreviated to anything :rolleyes:
what? i explained the linguistic evolution and that there is an english word meaning the same thing. it that was too hard to follow, too bad

OK einstein, give me the english equivalent to
Futa
bukkake
shota
ahegao
never said there were. they still dont automatically become english words. by that logic, any foreign words not having an english equivalent are english words. that's just silly

Cuckold is far clearer to an English reader than 'netorare'. Which was the point I was making, there are going to be people unaware what netorare means who would avoid cuckold content but instead learn the words meaning the hard way mid game.
dude, if you werent so stuck trying to defend your mistakes and deflecting, you would have seen i already agreed to that. or cucked, as you said then
perhaps cucked would have been better.
however, what i've repeated and you have ignored is that you suggested two tags to replace netorare:
Just seems that tagging is still a little unclear at the moment. A cucked tag is pretty obvious (cucked + romance = netorare).
one moment you're saying cuckold/cucked is a replacement for netorate, then you're saying two tags are a replacement (it isn't). what was that about confusing?
 
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what? i explained the linguistic evolution and that there is an english word meaning the same thing. it that was too hard to follow, too bad
Languages also evolve within themselves. The English word can and has also be abbreviated... it doesn't just sit there in 'ye olde' English waiting on the Japanese to adapt it, then abbreviate it. Two things can independantly arrive at the same destination... and both languages can use the same abbreviation.

never said there were. they still dont automatically become english words. by that logic, any foreign words not having an english equivalent are english words. that's just silly
If something is encountered and there is no word for it, then whatever the local dialect describes it as is adopted to fill the gap... some other languages sometimes invent a new word or significantly change it, English generally just incorporates the other languages word as closely as it can (and it may then evolve over time) 'thug' adopted from encountering indian 'thuggee' bandits for example.

And yes, those four terms have been adopted into english. No term will come along to replace them. Bukkake is here to stay.

We call the fast trains in Japan bullet trains because they were initially planned as 'dangan ressha' & we have words for bullet and train. We do not have a word for Futa. So Futa is now the word for Futa.

however, what i've repeated and you have ignored is that you suggested two tags to replace netorare:

one moment you're saying cuckold/cucked is a replacement for netorate, then you're saying two tags are a replacement (it isn't). what was that about confusing?
You missed the point of what I was saying to focus on japanese words & pull a 'well aktshually' on something incidental to a point I was making about something also contributing to NTR rage.. I am not going back through this whole shit show with you again so you can willfully misintepret another point & crap on sideways again.
 
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Languages also evolve within themselves. The English word can and has also be abbreviated... it doesn't just sit there in 'ye olde' English waiting on the Japanese to adapt it, then abbreviate it. Two things can independantly arrive at the same destination... and both languages can use the same abbreviation.
lolicon is a japanese abbreviation of lolita complex, so it's a japanese word, not english. the n isn't there in english. lolicon is a genre.
loli is not an abbreviation. loli is the japaense word for the girls in lolicon, not the genre.
loli is not an english abbreviation for lolita complex or lolita. in the adult space, it comes from the japanese word.

If something is encountered and there is no word for it, then whatever the local dialect describes it as is adopted to fill the gap... some other languages sometimes invent a new word or significantly change it, English generally just incorporates the other languages word as closely as it can (and it may then evolve over time) 'thug' adopted from encountering indian 'thuggee' bandits for example.
bandit already was in the english language, but thug found its way in anyway because languages can have synonyms and words with similar or overlapping meanings. like netorare and cuckold. one is a word specific to a genre in the adult space, the other is a word that can apply outside the adult space.

how hard is it to learn a new word that everybody uses for a genre? everyone calls it netorare and if you dont know it, you will quickly learn it.
 
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lolicon is a japanese abbreviation of lolita complex, so it's a japanese word, not english. the n isn't there in english....
The first imaginings of the atomic level was a mental visualization of an apple, if you sliced it thin enough it would eventually disappear from view. I believe you have managed via the splitting of hairs to make your argument disappear.

bandit already was in the english language, but thug found its way in anyway because languages can have synonyms and words with similar or overlapping meanings. like netorare and cuckold. one is a word specific to a genre in the adult space, the other is a word that can apply outside the adult space.
Thug is not a synonym, and does not mean bandit. Thuggee were very violent. A thug is a violent criminal. A thuggish postman would be a postman who is violent.

How hard is it to learn a new word that everybody uses for a genre? everyone calls it netorare and if you dont know it, you will quickly learn it.
that is what I was saying before your useless merry-go-round of pointless BS

People learning the meaning by discovering it mid game is going to lead to an increased dislike 'why does NTR get so much hate'.
 
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We covered this yesterday. Also, lumping every word you don't like in with reddit just 1. proves my point. 2. makes you seem desperate on top of insecure.
Leftists just don't get it. You need to hit a sore spot to hurt people when insulting. At least do it right if humiliating people is all you find joy in.

Here is an example: Everyone, including themselves, knows that leftists are effeminate soyboys, talking like anime characters on the anti-baby pill. Since they love liberated women so much, they obviously are closeted cucks. So calling them a faggot cuck always hits. Calling a rightwing reactionary an incel might sometimes be true, but most of the times the most anti-women men are jaded chads that grew tired of women and their mind numbing idiocy. So you have to find another attack if you care about hurting or humiliating them. Calling them incel and insecure like a broken toy will just make them shrug and makes you look like a reddit mod. You could also just stop with the whole <removed> behaviour, but its obviously all leftists find joy in. So there you go, wigger.
 

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I've read a bit of the other people's answers, but for me, I play from the protagonist's perspective and I don't like netorare, for that same reason I love netori (when the protagonist steals all the men's wives in the story and they stay with him, being fiercely loyal to him only). However, I sometimes play netorare only if it's a VN and I hit the CTRL key and ignore everything the cuckold says or thinks, and focus on the alpha and make him the true protagonist of the story.
 

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Leftists just don't get it. You need to hit a sore spot to hurt people when insulting. At least do it right if humiliating people is all you find joy in.

Here is an example: Everyone, including themselves, knows that leftists are effeminate soyboys, talking like anime characters on the anti-baby pill. Since they love liberated women so much, they obviously are closeted cucks. So calling them a faggot cuck always hits. Calling a rightwing reactionary an incel might sometimes be true, but most of the times the most anti-women men are jaded chads that grew tired of women and their mind numbing idiocy. So you have to find another attack if you care about hurting or humiliating them. Calling them incel and insecure like a broken toy will just make them shrug and makes you look like a reddit mod. You could also just stop with the whole <removed> behaviour, but its obviously all leftists find joy in. So there you go, wigger.
Is this some copypasta?
 

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The first imaginings of the atomic level was a mental visualization of an apple, if you sliced it thin enough it would eventually disappear from view. I believe you have managed via the splitting of hairs to make your argument disappear.
sure buddy. you can't admit loli is a japanese word. or you're too dumb to understand it.

Thug is not a synonym, and does not mean bandit. Thuggee were very violent. A thug is a violent criminal. A thuggish postman would be a postman who is violent.
learn to read complete sentences. i didn't say thug and bandit were synonyms. the sentence continued. you used bandit yourself when talking about thugs, i just used your word to try to make a point you would understand.
indian 'thuggee' bandits
that is what I was saying before your useless merry-go-round of pointless BS
it takes two to tango. i made a simple observation and you had to display your bad understanding of language and wouldnt let it go. sure, that's my fault for trying to educate you.
 

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Leftists just don't get it.
Ironic. I'm not a leftist. In fact, most conservatives don't think women are property anymore. You can move along now crazy person.

Calling them incel and insecure like a broken toy will just make them shrug and makes you look like a reddit mod.
I've never called you an incel, but you are obviously insecure. You honestly believe that women who show any kind of independence or self initiative are "broken". That makes you an insecure little man that can only be secure with pet women who don't talk back.
 
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sure buddy. you can't admit loli is a japanese word. or you're too dumb to understand it.
also you
lolicon is a japanese abbreviation of lolita complex
What is is this leap based upon, were you in the room when the first japanese man had the term explained to them? Because in english when a term is cumbersome or used colloquially people totes don't drop syllables. Are you seriously suggesting that in all circumstance, words are never, ever, ever shortened.

learn to read complete sentences. i didn't say thug and bandit were synonyms.
bandit already was in the english language, but thug found its way in anyway because languages can have synonyms and words with similar or overlapping meanings.
They why the fuck bring synonyms up....

Bandit and thug are 'so' overlapping that the newer word thug can be applied as adjective the the older word...'thuggish bandits'. Thug implies very specifically violence, not just an outlaw or a robber. 'That racoon is a bandit' has different meaning to 'that racoon is a thug'.

like netorare and cuckold. one is a word specific to a genre in the adult space, the other is a word that can apply outside the adult space.
And this is where you are (again) wrong - as I said previously English has a stand in word that is used in its place. When discussing Futanari the term futa will be used. When discussing Netorare cuckold is used. The collective lexicon immediately defaults to cuckold/cuck/cucked. The term 'cuck' has also evolved beyond its original meaning (requiring marriage to just refer to a partner), just look how it is thrown around in modern circles as an insult.

Outside of a particular few, the widley used term is not netorare.

Hence my initial point - people who would avoid a cucked tag learning what netorare means the hard way, mid game, in a WTF moment would definately add to dislike of that tag. Being told boiling water burns is different to ignorantly sticking your hand in it, one creates a direct, negative memory.

it takes two to tango. i made a simple observation and you had to display your bad understanding of language and wouldnt let it go. sure, that's my fault for trying to educate you.
To educate you have to offer something of value, not vomit half formed thoughts out onto your keyboard in a shit attempt at a 'well akttshually' ego stroke.
 
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You need to hit a sore spot to hurt people when insulting.
Ironic. I'm not a leftist. In fact, most conservatives don't think women are property anymore. You can move along now crazy person.
Tanstaafl - its obvious he has both a deep resentment of women & fear of attachments after he was cucked, and due to his own inherent weakness as a man is looking for the governement to fix the issue for him via a legal option.
 
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Tanstaafl - its obvious he has both a deep resentment of women & fear of attachments after he was cucked, and due to his own inherent weakness as a man is looking for the governement to fix the issue for him via a legal option.
Honestly, I don't think he's looking for a govt fix. He comes off more like that crazy guy down the road that scares kids with his religious ranting. His posts in Politics sometimes read more like prayers than posts at times. I nearly sprained my eyes a few times rolling them so hard.

Edit: I mean that literally, lol.
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Honestly, I don't think he's looking for a govt fix.
Crying for a return to a previous set of laws IS wanting a governmental fix, that is the hilarious irony. But don't worry, when he got cucked he was option 2 in your easy reference signature, and he has full cream milk with his coffee so is 'totally' different to the people he complains about.