Unity Some Heroines Climb Up a Tower to Ask God Why the Game Has a Name That's So Long [v2.42] [Sinful Salad Games]

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brick257

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Did you defeat any bosses or mini bosses? It'll unlock hub shops and a permanent type of currency.

Don't you fucking dare compare me to frogger ever again, I could never hope to be on that level.
I got /to/ mini bosses but certainly never beat any, so that's on me. A lot of posts in this thread suggest the initial skill rolls are paramount to success, and I don't think I ever got two "zone wide" attacks at the same time, so maybe that'll even my odds more.

I don't wanna constantly seem like an armchair designer or diminish all the cool things this game does - and just like Frogger, which is why I used that comparison, the game is fun to play even if you keep getting squashed with nothing to show for it, but if Darkest Dungeon-ish is the goal, the early game seems inconsistent -- in a way that a few easy redesigns might address wholesale, which is fantastic.

Godspeed and good luck - i'm glad to see this kind of game getting positive attention and the name decision was pretty genius. I still laugh at it.
 
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I may have a complete misunderstanding of this game, but I ADORE Darkest Dungeon and played it for THOUSANDS of hours. I didn't see any resources you got to keep from a run in this game... your characters don't keep any increases they find, you don't keep the gold, you don't keep unspent consumable resources - you don't KEEP anything at all, so I don't see how it's like Darkest Dungeon and not more like Frogger.
There's really only one, and yeah it comes from the bosses/mini-bosses you can face, also defeating said mini-bosses (at least the slaver, as well as what I believe is the first mini-boss you'll encounter from running into one in the map) will unlock some new things, one being a new location that can appear in each run, and the other a trainer who will sell you new skills that can show up for future runs. I believe the only requirement for the other is defeating a main boss, or, maybe just simply going through a run from start to finish? Can't recall, but that one either way will sell new items you'll be able to find on future runs.

Also, perhaps Darkest Dungeon was a poor comparison especially at this early stage, as I wouldn't say this game has the campaign/roster vibes that DD has, and doesn't seem like it'll aim for that, its just the most prominent example of a rogue-like I've played personally, and there are definitely still some elements which are similar, albeit in a very different fashion altogether (lanes/zones being used for combat for optimal play, both in keeping enemies out of their preferred region, and dealing as much damage as you can with your own characters in their preferred regions.)

Honestly in that regard it might even be better I compare it to Darkest Dungeon 2 currently, but yeah, only time will tell how the game turns out by the end of things. Ngl the frogger comparison is funnily enough apt in its own right LOL
 

nazzan

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First off, loving the game so far, which is refreshing surprise. I'd give it a more in-depth review, but I'm still trying to git gud as it were


Second, a question and a suggestion:
Q: Why does Ninja only do 2 in green and 3 in red? With Heroine it goes R10-B5-G2 and Archer is R2-B5-G10, so why is Ninja lacking the 5 damage, considering her attacks seem to have the most conditional aspects to it (Pulling Reds closer to their preferred zone for damage, can't defualt attack non-greens in green-zone without benefiting the enemy)

and for the suggestion
Suggest: Can the Slaver be relocated to a second fight or beyond on the map? As it stands you'll never get enough money to use their service and most of the time you won't lose a girl during start to first node
 
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Sadie227

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Suggest: Can the Slaver be relocated to a second fight on the map? As it stands you'll never get enough money to use their service and most of the time you won't lose a girl during start to first node
Spawn location of the slaver (and all other structures/encounters on the map except the final boss) is randomized per run. It's a roguelike, after all. Sometimes Brad is first along the top, sometimes he's last along the bottom. Sometimes there's a mountain blocking you from switching lanes partway through.
 

nazzan

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Spawn location of the slaver (and all other structures/encounters on the map except the final boss) is randomized per run. It's a roguelike, after all. Sometimes Brad is first along the top, sometimes he's last along the bottom. Sometimes there's a mountain blocking you from switching lanes partway through.
Edited my first post to say second node/fight or beyond
I get the point is randomized rouge-like, but given how vital it seems to have all of your members free, the slaver feels more like a rest stop/recovery, which in most of these types of games (Like Slay the Spire, Last Evil,won't be your immediate first stop, or at the very least will be weighted against it starting first

Since you have to select which path you take first and then select your starting skills this kinda is a moot point, but if you were able to select your skills first, and then pick which path you start down, it could add some element of strategy on if you take the slaver camp route for insurance, or pick the other route for more gains depending on how confident you felt with your skills
 

CoalBurner

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Q: Why does Ninja only do 2 in green and 3 in red? With Heroine it goes R10-B5-G2 and Archer is R2-B5-G10, so why is Ninja lacking the 5 damage, considering her attacks seem to have the most conditional aspects to it (Pulling Reds closer to their preferred zone for damage, can't defualt attack non-greens in green-zone without benefiting the enemy)
While i don't know the exact reason, i get the feeling that it might have something to do with how the blue zone is the most likely to have an enemy in it.
Swordswoman will often be hitting red enemies, pushing them into blue
Archer's tripwire (one of the best skills) will often move enemies directly into blue
And with mages having the most health at 40, you'll usually have at least one of them to hit
If there's no enemy in blue to hit, you're probably not worried about missing out on damage anyways.
You can always rely on a skill if you really need to hit outside the zone

Also, ninja does 3/10/3, not 3/10/2, this is pretty notable as it lets her combo with swordswoman for at least 5 damage in the green zone
 
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kronoblast

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I don't know why you're getting a facepalm react, two of the downloads I tried were listed as virus threats on a "SEVERE" Scale and indicated there was a trojan in the file.

DETECTED: Trojan:Script/Wacatac.B!ml
wacatac is a surprisingly common false positive. while its possible that its a trojan, its also possible that its just a regular script being ran. recommend using more then just virus total to check things if you're worried.
or if you're not using virus total, use virus total as well. always a good idea to check. just make sure not to run it at all or you risk ending your pc.

for extreme protection, use a virtual machine.
 

MilesKiyaAnny

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Sooo, I just try out this version. I got little rustly soo lost on first time cuz spamming too much AOE and the support mage wizard demon blue guy been buff everyone and kidnap my ninja girl out of energy from all that AOE on horde of mage demon then sec time I B LINE to boss. I dont have AOE attack on this one but got double attack on enemy ONLY for archer girl. everything else literally only buff and stuff til I meet the boss. A
scarecrow boss and I beat her. I proitized her only soo a few got into red line but I let knight girl taking care of them while 2 other lines girls all destroying and stun boss and push boss away. I won
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I think I got this feeling after failed on first time on this version. Maybe some sort of shop or something to encourage player to keep playing appear after player die once?? I didnt thought of that when first time to first demo. cuz my luck been helping me get good skill drop.
I also notice that sex resist can not regan now. it is double edage sword. I have to make sure to get everyone of them to lowest health so if one of them sax with da girls I can save them in time.
still gotto play more to get a hang of this
 
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0nymous

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I literally just tried and failed 5 times in a row again. I succeeded on the 6th attempt - by the skin of my teeth, defeating the boss as I was like ~2 turns from losing.
It still seems too hard. And I usually complain about the opposite in these games!

I have an incredible urge to share some of my personal suggestions regarding balance:
- nerf blue dudes from 40 HP to 30 HP. They just swarm the field too easily, and ninja can't deal with them alone.
- let the girls regenerate more stamina and a moderate (15? 20?) amount of sex resistance at the cost of passing their turn. This grants the player more control to the flow of the lewd content (as was the intention of removing resistance regeneration per turn I assume), as you make the decision to pass a turn yourself. In case you feel like this might enable "turtling" or "stalling" strats, make the extra healing grant diminishing returns per turn.
- some kind of contingency feature once a girl gets stunned/disabled/fucked our outright eliminated. It's currently the number one cause for game overs, since you lose control over an entire zone. Your archer and ninja will take a total of 5 turns to kill a 30 HP red dude if he grabs your swordswoman - that is simply too long for comfort. As something more specific, I propose some kind of passive skill or item that activates when a girl gets grabbed to counter the "YOU LOSE NOW HAHA" scenario. Or buff the two other girls in some way when one of your girls hits 0 stamina.
- the level up/powerups are almost worthless. Mathematically speaking, 2 damage (almost) does not matter, as you are required to manage the damage in a way that lets you two-shot or three-shot any enemy. Adjust them so that they're less "spread out" between stats and instead modify 1 stat significantly - like + 10 damage instead of +2 damage/ +10 stamina/+10 strip resist.
 
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delfino1

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Pretty blown away by the demo for this game, and to think I stumbled upon it by pure chance. Very excited to see how the game develops in the future, will be more than happy to support it. As another mentioned above, one small thing I wanted to bring up would be some inconsistencies when it comes to the proportions for some of the heroines' art. Off the top of my head, when ninja is getting groped her tits seem to be quite a bit smaller than how they normally appear. That aside, hardly have any complaints for the demo. Surprisingly fun game play that could be played one-handed, some fantastic unique art, and actually funny writing. Great stuff.
 

Trongle

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Pretty blown away by the demo for this game, and to think I stumbled upon it by pure chance. Very excited to see how the game develops in the future, will be more than happy to support it. As another mentioned above, one small thing I wanted to bring up would be some inconsistencies when it comes to the proportions for some of the heroines' art. Off the top of my head, when ninja is getting groped her tits seem to be quite a bit smaller than how they normally appear. That aside, hardly have any complaints for the demo. Surprisingly fun game play that could be played one-handed, some fantastic unique art, and actually funny writing. Great stuff.
Yeah, I drew a lot of the images for the first enemy over a year ago, so some of the old art looks different. I may replace it later.
 

brick257

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The animations that show what's happening to each character when they get attacked are far far too fast, I have no clue what's happening 99% of the time.
If, like me, you missed it - you can change the animation speed by clicking the gear icon on the top right during a run. You can adjust the art from 0.5 seconds to 5 seconds.

Glad I found it. I think 1.5 seconds looks great, and if the game continued while the animation played, it'd be pretty great!
 

MilesKiyaAnny

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This some clutch S#@%# play
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new day new playthrough. we were exhausted dealing with ton of red brute and couple of mage blue guy and Dev did ya nerf some AOE skill?? I got that rainning arrow and it doing like 6 damage to 4-2 enemies?? I never notice that til mid way before the boss.
 

Trongle

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This some clutch S#@%# play
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new day new playthrough. we were exhausted dealing with ton of red brute and couple of mage blue guy and Dev did ya nerf some AOE skill?? I got that rainning arrow and it doing like 6 damage to 4-2 enemies?? I never notice that til mid way before the boss.
I don't think that's correct, Rapid Rain does whatever the Heroine's damage stat is. Also, that skill can be good, but it's very unreliable.
 

MilesKiyaAnny

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I suppose it is very unliable and stamina cost also very huge. also I could not find any item i bought from cosmic girl shop. does those i bought are like will now able to be random drop on next playthrough?? I have not use item that much since first demo and now currently. totally forget item exist and brain power all to how to destroy support type enemy with skill and regular attack.

I got idea for normal diffculty. name it whatever you like for favour I suppose. it about those power up pick up and with that diffculty player get to keep the stats increase permanently regard of die trying reset
should encourage people now
tho
I dont know if people would appreciate this or few will like But this suppose to be Dark Soul Escape of Darkness Dungeon BOoo
me opioion is it alright as it is. get me jumpy sometime knowing I can fail and I want to beat that challenge
 
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BrainWaves

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Heads up, I stumbled upon some bugs : the worst one was that after my character's turns the enemies wouldn't start their turn, leading me to need to quit the game. I just managed to kill the slaver boss and got back two of my heroines with the special outfit
; _ ; )
Also sometimes, two enemies will end up in the same spot. It's not as gamebreaking as the first bug but it's kinda weird. I think it happens when abilities make them move forward (and so far it's pretty often in the red zone) but I can't be 100% sure about this.
EDIT : just found another minor bug, when fighting vodoo dolls, if two of them are attacking the same character and said character is downed, one of the vodoo dolls is going to attack again (since only one doll does the sex scene) and this "interrupts" the sex scene and reverts the character cg to the neutral one. Somewhat armless but prevented me from getting a full row of dolled heroines ; _ ; )

Either way, said it before but great game ! A lot of things in there really push my buttons like the slavers outfit giving different sex images and changing the sex resistance/buff of the girls, the vodoo dolls are really great too and many more.
(archergirl is also the best)
And I've often wondered if there was a need to go this hard on the music, I'm not complaining but I can't say I've ever expected a porn game to have a music this cool hahahah

Best of luck ! I'm really looking forward to what you'll come up with next.
 
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IronJovi

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Soooooooooo, what's the benefit in subbing to you guys on patreon? Besides access to the discord channel. Because the few creators that I support usually offer stuff like: 3 weeks early access or exclusive drawings. It's not that I do not appreciate you guys giving us stuff for free and I do know that this is a pirate site (mostly), it's just that I need some incentive to rationalize me spending 10$ monthly on a single porn game. I'm dumb like that
 

Trongle

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Soooooooooo, what's the benefit in subbing to you guys on patreon? Besides access to the discord channel. Because the few creators that I support usually offer stuff like: 3 weeks early access or exclusive drawings. It's not that I do not appreciate you guys giving us stuff for free and I do know that this is a pirate site (mostly), it's just that I need some incentive to rationalize me spending 10$ monthly on a single porn game. I'm dumb like that
I post early images for patrons on our discord and you'll get to play new content updates early.
 
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