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VN Ren'Py Abandoned Something Special [v0.1.13] [WonderGames]

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Walter Victor

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Nope!

Its a fucking KN! not a VN! You have NO choices! Read the reviews.
MC is raped by the red bitch over and over again. (You cant say NOOOOOOO!)

Worst game ever!
Exept the renders.

PS
I would rather playing "Coffe for Keischa" as this KN!
Yeah, first game I've actually hated a redhead. Tina is a POS and the fact that the dev gives you fake options to refuse her but the MC still gives in is BS. That, the lack of any real plot, and the Dev's poor grasp of the English language make this a disappointing but good looking game.
Here's the thing, in every single game the developer has to make his own choices as to what will be so important to HIS game, that it must be played through. When those choices are made, not everyone is going to like it. That's fine. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to continue play. You are free to play some other game. But griping about it is unlikely to have an affect. If it did, I wouldn't trust any developer who caved to such pressure.

Some people are going to like the way a game unfolds. Others, not so much. You should feel free to complain about anything you don't like. Then you have to decide whether to continue playing or not.
 

eddie987

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I disagree with basically everything you said in your post, but it did bring up something that I'm curious about.

Of the two choices Kinetic Novel or Visual Novel, why would Kinetic Novel be the one without choices? Kinetic means active or movement. So I would assume that a Kinetic Novel is a novel that would give you choices. Whereas a Visual Novel is just something with pictures that you read. Does this site just use backwards definitions for these two or is this actually correct and just makes no sense?

Anyway, I actually like this game. As Rob said it's a nice time waster with hot renders and good sex scenes. Not every game has to have miles of depth or character development. This game is exactly what it is trying to be and it is doing a fine job of it.

You wouldn't go to a Transformers movie and look for depth or character development, you would go to see giant fucking robots fight and blow shit up.

When I play an adult game, I'm looking for a decent story that doesn't give me brain damage, nice sexy models, and lots of sex scenes. If the game also happens to have great writing, humor, an interesting plot, and great character development with lots of feels thrown in with the fapping; all of those things are amazing bonuses and they are exactly what takes a good game and makes a great one, but I don't expect every game to be great.

Also, the MC seems pretty good with fucking the redhead. Even if the player doesn't get a choice, the MC is just fine with it. So no rape here folks.
By definition Visual Novels are interactive (the user/player has choices), while Kinetic Novels are basically linear Visual Novels (which removes the interactive part). You are right, the word Kinetic implies movement, but in this case it's more like "moving pictures", you're just watching a slideshow.
 

Penfold Mole

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For what it's worth, you do have some choices in some scenes that do change how these scenes unfold, it's just that mostly they won't change the final outcome of the scene and have no influence to the future events (no variables, therefore characters have no 'memory'). Whatever you do, the story has a single path.
An argument if this is a KN or VN is just semantics and was not the point of my post. As a non native English speaker and since I've never been a specialist of game categorization, until now I had no idea what KN is or how it differs from VN. I guess now I do, thanks for explanation, eddie987
I just said what I could read from the title.

The point was that if someone doesn't like it, no one is forcing anyone to play. If someone thinks that saying this is worth of a facepalm, then he needs help.
 
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terrashock

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This is another game I've been following for a bit, but I have to ask why are the updates so short? The days pass by quickly and nothing really happens? There's only a few animations in the game and from playing it multiple times making different choices in each, there's a few scenes that could have benefit a bit more from having something happen, like the beach chair moment with Kate? Other than this it's a decent game I'm quite enjoying and look forward to seeing where it goes when it picks up a bit. 9 updates in and it seems like it's still trying to establish a story.
 

JohnJG

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The artwork and animation are very good indeed but the story?

I'm not sure that there is a story. It has a lot of back and forth with some characters that doesn't really go anywhere or move this story forward.

Hoping for an improvement in the next update. :coffee:
 

scotsman2020

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game started off ok but you should have give the MC some balls instead of being a push over its a put off like this tho some ppl like it im sure
 

mmmonsterkill

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id say its a bit early to say there are no choices, the story basically hasn't gone anywhere yet it could still be in the buildup phase, holy moly did this game get alot of 1 star reviews
 

Walter Victor

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Penfold Mole is almost correct. The only meaningful variable kept is player_name. But the code is strange, in that there are actually 7 variables defined for various scenes, as of this last release. Then during play, they are set and shortly after they are reset, with no way of avoiding either the set or the reset. An 8th variable is used to control a sex scene, but also is reset at the end of it. Like I said, strange! Why are they there? Perhaps the developer knows; I don't.

On the subject of kinetic novels, think of them as illustrated books. Why play them? For the same reason you read a book - to find out what happens and how it's told. But, is that a game? No, which is why many people avoid them. Others don't like what happens in the game, or how it is told, and stop playing ... just as some people set aside a book they started and never finish it.

Visual novels, on the other hand, are games. They have choices that actually affect the process as well as the outcome. But even in a VN, the developer has a plan, and forces the player to do some things, either because they think them important to their story, or because some choices would send the game down an unwanted (to the developer) path. Also, too many paths can make a game too big to continue creating.

This game is a VN in the sense that there a number of choices that affect what is said and seen over a short period. However, they have (so far) had no lasting effect (nor could they, without a variable maintained).

For me, there are two things that really bother me with this game: I find the character of Tina objectionable - I assume she is only there to give us an early sex scene; there are way too many single-option choices - I see no purpose in them at all.

EDIT: Corrected name of disliked character. Oops!
 
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Honestly i wish people would just play/read whatever are given to them freely. It's easier to complain than to be uplifting it seems.

There are so many choices out there and I actually love what the dev is doing. The characters are hot, the story simple yes but enough to entertain me. I play it fro what it is and if i did not enjoy it i'd move a long and play something else that tickles my fancy and not complain about it.

Too many times i think opinion and moaning has become one thing. Kudos to you for trying to explain VN / KN and games.

Penfold Mole is almost correct. The only meaningful variable kept is player_name. But the code is strange, in that there are actually 7 variables defined for various scenes, as of this last release. Then during play, they are set and shortly after they are reset, with no way of avoiding either the set or the reset. An 8th variable is used to control a sex scene, but also is reset at the end of it. Like I said, strange! Why are they there? Perhaps the developer knows; I don't.

On the subject of kinetic novels, think of them as illustrated books. Why play them? For the same reason you read a book - to find out what happens and how it's told. But, is that a game? No, which is why many people avoid them. Others don't like what happens in the game, or how it is told, and stop playing ... just as some people set aside a book they started and never finish it.

Visual novels, on the other hand, are games. They have choices that actually affect the process as well as the outcome. But even in a VN, the developer has a plan, and forces the player to do some things, either because they think them important to their story, or because some choices would send the game down an unwanted (to the developer) path. Also, too many paths can make a game too big to continue creating.

This game is a VN in the sense that there a number of choices that affect what is said and seen over a short period. However, they have (so far) had no lasting effect (nor could they, without a variable maintained).

For me, there are two things that really bother me with this game: I find the character of Tina objectionable - I assume she is only there to give us an early sex scene; there are way too many single-option choices - I see no purpose in them at all.

EDIT: Corrected name of disliked character. Oops!
 

Keldar

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For what it's worth, you do have some choices in some scenes that do change how these scenes unfold, it's just that mostly they won't change the final outcome of the scene and have no influence to the future events (no variables, therefore characters have no 'memory'). Whatever you do, the story has a single path.
An argument if this is a KN or VN is just semantics and was not the point of my post. As a non native English speaker and since I've never been a specialist of game categorization, until now I had no idea what KN is or how it differs from VN. I guess now I do, thanks for explanation, eddie987
I just said what I could read from the title.

The point was that if someone doesn't like it, no one is forcing anyone to play. If someone thinks that saying this is worth of a facepalm, then he needs help.
I had a sudden urge to facepalm this post for some reason.
 

Keldar

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Honestly i wish people would just play/read whatever are given to them freely. It's easier to complain than to be uplifting it seems.
Of coarse you believe this, you are too sensitive to criticism. You think criticism is negative and it is why you will likely always be a mediocre creator, in my opinion. Not because you have no talent but because you fail to understand the positive value of criticism.

There are so many choices out there and I actually love what the dev is doing. The characters are hot, the story simple yes but enough to entertain me. I play it fro what it is and if i did not enjoy it i'd move a long and play something else that tickles my fancy and not complain about it.
This is sound advice and i don't disagree with it at all. I just think it is naïve. If people just stopped playing games because of their subjective opinions without telling developers what they disliked. how would any developer improve on storytelling? In creative writing courses there is always someone who thinks they are an actual genius when it comes to storytelling and anyone who criticizes them "just doesn't get it." God forbid if another student likes the story then they become intractable and gain nothing from the course. You remind me of that type of student.

Too many times i think opinion and moaning has become one thing. Kudos to you for trying to explain VN / KN and games.
lol. So it is a 'real' opinion if you agree with it and it is moaning if you disagree? The way you end this post demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of the value of dissent, criticism, and expressions of disappointment of the reader to the writer. And why criticism is more value to you as a writer than assent of your "genius." The more a criticism gets repeated the more likely there is a valid point behind the criticism. But I am sure you are an actual 'genius' and we who disliked your writing are all just giving an "old repeated 'criticism' of people who do not understand the story." I mean it couldn't possibly be because we understand your story we just think it is mediocre now could it?

[Disclaimer] The above is a criticism to MrKnobb's post, not the developer of something special.
 

robmon

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Hello, this is my translation of the Something Special [v0.0.9] game in Polish.I salute everyone and wish you a great game and look forward to the hero's continued adventures.

Moje własne tłumaczenie gry Something Special [v0.0.9] po Polsku
"Gry nie muszą być tylko po Angielsku, pokażmy że (Polacy nie gęsi też swój jężyk mają) He He ...
Pozdrawiam Robmon"


 
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Acheron32

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Sad to say the game sucks it offers dialogue choices that literally change nothing to the story, Here's hoping that changes in future updates otherwise the game belongs on the abandoned pile.
 
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Daloza

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Sad to say the game sucks it offers dialogue choices that literally change nothing to the story, Here's hoping that changes in future updates otherwise the game belongs on the abandoned pile.
Did U read this in OP? Developer Notes
Something else is important to me: Genre: 3DCG, Male protagonist, Harem, Voyeurism, Incest, Corruption, Mobile game, Handjob, Oral sex, Twins, MILF..... Not much.
 
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Im with you on this. It saddens me that the updates are so short. I truly like this game but... wish for more.

This is another game I've been following for a bit, but I have to ask why are the updates so short? The days pass by quickly and nothing really happens? There's only a few animations in the game and from playing it multiple times making different choices in each, there's a few scenes that could have benefit a bit more from having something happen, like the beach chair moment with Kate? Other than this it's a decent game I'm quite enjoying and look forward to seeing where it goes when it picks up a bit. 9 updates in and it seems like it's still trying to establish a story.
 
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2.20 star(s) 43 Votes