Kojj4

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Check the facts before you are saying something stupid next time.
If you are a patron you can easy check each release day for the game for last 4 years.
Then you will see that nothing from what you say is truth.The extra days never add up to free month for them,never.

Huntress,Black Canary,Zatanna and Hawkgirl.
Each one probably will need 3 or 4 updates to be done completely.After all they have so many to be added in MB and the cells.
Maybe for the update in April we can get something like this.

-Huntress/cell content including dance and strip/.
-Black Canary/cell content including dance and strip/.
-Lois/completed-sex,anal,leash,nickname etc/
-Mercy/completed-sex,anal,maybe she should not have leash scene/
-Poison Ivy/completed/
-Stargirl/MB done/
I thought the sunsetriders7 would make Black Canary and Huntress complete. But why do I think so? it doesn't make sense to have two main characters to choose and not have the same batgirl content. So, instead of bringing a complete character and a new character, just focus on these two characters. The content of Zatanna, WonderWoman and Hawkgirl would be next. I know the waiting list is huge, and I think last year they made a little mess in the organization of the game bringing those new characters (Jinx, Rose, Maxima etc) of course it's not bad, but I always wanted to get the characters that were already there.
As you mentioned, I agree. But there are some things that need to be fixed.

- Lois in cell = Dance / Strip / HJ / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal
- Harley in cell = Dance / Strip / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal (maybe HJ?)
- Mercy in cell = Dance / Strip / HJ / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal
- Stargirl = MB done but not exhibitionism || in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Huntres in cell = No content
- Zatanna in cell = No content
- Black Cannary in cell = No content
- Wonder Woman in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) / Lasso || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Hawkgirl in cell = No content
- Starfire in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Blackfire in cell = Dance / Strip / Spank || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Galatea in cell = Dance / Strip / Massage || Need = HJ/ BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Princess Audrey in cell = Dance / Spank / Strip || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- SuperWoman in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)

So, depending on the rhythm they're doing maybe the contents are ready in 3 years or more. I did not quote the MB of the exhibitionism scenes. About the fetishes, this varies between spank, massage and etc. (yeah, I like the spank content)
Therefore, I intend to be hopeful and I know the job will be fine, but it will take time, I know. About what I said about Jinx, Rose and Maxima, I like cell contents, and I think it's more organized, and I haven't even talked about Talia and Lady Shiva. (as these characters are in one location, I think it's great)
Nicknames and Leash I thought it totally useless. But why? well, you just have to leave the character naked and ask to dance, I know that the arts are different so whatever. Let's keep hope and see if everything will go well.
 
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armion82

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I thought the sunsetriders7 would make Black Canary and Huntress complete. But why do I think so? it doesn't make sense to have two main characters to choose and not have the same batgirl content. So, instead of bringing a complete character and a new character, just focus on these two characters. The content of Zatanna, WonderWoman and Hawkgirl would be next. I know the waiting list is huge, and I think last year they made a little mess in the organization of the game bringing those new characters (Jinx, Rose, Maxima etc) of course it's not bad, but I always wanted to get the characters that were already there.
As you mentioned, I agree. But there are some things that need to be fixed.

- Lois in cell = Dance / Strip / HJ / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal
- Harley in cell = Dance / Strip / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal (maybe HJ?)
- Mercy in cell = Dance / Strip / HJ / BJ || Need = Sex / Anal
- Stargirl = MB done but not exhibitionism || in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Huntres in cell = No content
- Zatanna in cell = No content
- Black Cannary in cell = No content
- Wonder Woman in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) / Lasso || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Hawkgirl in cell = No content
- Starfire in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Blackfire in cell = Dance / Strip / Spank || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Galatea in cell = Dance / Strip / Massage || Need = HJ/ BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- Princess Audrey in cell = Dance / Spank / Strip || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)
- SuperWoman in cell = Dance / Strip (not included) || Need = HJ / BJ / Sex / Anal / (some fetish?)

So, depending on the rhythm they're doing maybe the contents are ready in 3 years or more. I did not quote the MB of the exhibitionism scenes. About the fetishes, this varies between spank, massage and etc. (yeah, I like the spank content)
Therefore, I intend to be hopeful and I know the job will be fine, but it will take time, I know. About what I said about Jinx, Rose and Maxima, I like cell contents, and I think it's more organized, and I haven't even talked about Talia and Lady Shiva. (as these characters are in one location, I think it's great)
Nicknames and Leash I thought it totally useless. But why? well, you just have to leave the character naked and ask to dance, I know that the arts are different so whatever. Let's keep hope and see if everything will go well.
Even with the old roadmap there was no way to get all content for one of the 4 characters/Huntress,Black Canary,Zatanna and Hawkgirl/in just 1 update.
They probably will work on a bigger number of characters with smaller number of scenes for each.Dont'forget that even with the updates from 2019,they usually are releasing content for 3 characters at least.
With the new shedule I can see each update having content for 6 superheroines/henchwomen/supervillainess total.
Big number of them are almost completed-the henchwomen,some that we can hire like Poison Ivy and Cheetah,Lois,Audrey,Lady Shiva,Killer Frost etc.
Also they probably will wait for the rebuild to be ready,in order to finish Wonder Woman/Superwoman and Starfire/Blackfire.
Of course that won't stop them to give us the MB content for WW and SF before the rebuild.
 

Ixiah

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you cannot rush art
you cannot rush inspiration
And we can take your Money elsewhere.
Let face it, the Update, when it comes, will be the same dripfeed that it always has been and will in no case justify the 4, or 2, Months waiting time.
A lot of the People complaining here arent angry, they are frustrated that the Game gets run into the Ground.
So they made the Updates Bi-Monthly to get more time for Bugfixes and Content.
And now we get almost the same ammount of Content, with some exceptions, than we got every Month.
For me, it almost feels like a minature Version of EA:
They make a lot of Money, but not much of it is spend on maintaining their Games with Content.
What exactly needs to be done that warrants that ammount of Content in a 2 Month Timeframe ?
The Game today has become almost nothing but a Visual Novel, with some RNG if certain Events happpen thrown in to stretch the Playtime.
Which leaves the Art.
He wants to do the Art alone ?
Fine, but with 15K every Month, you think he could spend Money to pay someone to colorize, or even turn Sketches over to someone who can finish them.
Or at least a secondary Coder....
And inspiration ?
Aside from the Art, what is left ?
Certainly not engaging gameplay.
So where does all the Money go ?
Their other Game, also sparsley Updated.
Lets think about that for a second, your Team is so small that you change from 1 Month to 2 Months update because the stress was to big to deliver Conent.....
So yeah, you might think People who dont pay dont get to complain, but our Complains are the Reason why we dont Pay and with every meager Update, that notion gets reinforced.
 

nofatchicks

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And we can take your Money elsewhere.
Let face it, the Update, when it comes, will be the same dripfeed that it always has been and will in no case justify the 4, or 2, Months waiting time.
A lot of the People complaining here arent angry, they are frustrated that the Game gets run into the Ground.
So they made the Updates Bi-Monthly to get more time for Bugfixes and Content.
And now we get almost the same ammount of Content, with some exceptions, than we got every Month.
For me, it almost feels like a minature Version of EA:
They make a lot of Money, but not much of it is spend on maintaining their Games with Content.
What exactly needs to be done that warrants that ammount of Content in a 2 Month Timeframe ?
The Game today has become almost nothing but a Visual Novel, with some RNG if certain Events happpen thrown in to stretch the Playtime.
Which leaves the Art.
He wants to do the Art alone ?
Fine, but with 15K every Month, you think he could spend Money to pay someone to colorize, or even turn Sketches over to someone who can finish them.
Or at least a secondary Coder....
And inspiration ?
Aside from the Art, what is left ?
Certainly not engaging gameplay.
So where does all the Money go ?
Their other Game, also sparsley Updated.
Lets think about that for a second, your Team is so small that you change from 1 Month to 2 Months update because the stress was to big to deliver Conent.....
So yeah, you might think People who dont pay dont get to complain, but our Complains are the Reason why we dont Pay and with every meager Update, that notion gets reinforced.
it doesn't seem like english is your first language so i'll leave you alone on that front

but none of what you said correlates to something i said

i urge you to not allow something outside your control affect your emotional state
 

IAmRatchet

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I paid in February expecting a release, and got chewed out in the Patreon Discord for daring to criticize the promise of a release date only to get that taken away and thrown to next month, essentially making my payment worthless. (There was no bonus pack either)

Call me dumb for assuming they’d be on time, but if that’s even a possibility, and they’re making 15K a month to split between three people anyway, they should just set the payments for full releases only.
 

Krugger

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A few months ago I made the same complaint. You didn't understand and made fun of it. I think the art of this game is incredible, but in relation to gameplay, that's all the guy up there said. I had said that the game was very repetitive, you are always doing the same thing and nothing changes just the dialogues. It was 5 years working on this game, and we will confess that there is a lot of content but the gameplay needs to be adjusted. But let's stay out of this and talk about the content. The guy up there mentioned that the game brings a complete character and a new character. If you start adding a lot of characters, the chronological time will only increase and there you will have more time and more excuse to argue. I'm not a patreon, so I don't have much to complain about, but who is a patreon and is disappointed is another side of the story. I will not play this again, as it is easier to search for CGs which is much faster and more practical. Since the gameplay of this game does not give you any emotion.
 
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armion82

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A few months ago I made the same complaint. You didn't understand and made fun of it. I think the art of this game is incredible, but in relation to gameplay, that's all the guy up there said. I had said that the game was very repetitive, you are always doing the same thing and nothing changes just the dialogues. It was 5 years working on this game, and we will confess that there is a lot of content but the gameplay needs to be adjusted. But let's stay out of this and talk about the content. The guy up there mentioned that the game brings a complete character and a new character. If you start adding a lot of characters, the chronological time will only increase and there you will have more time and more excuse to argue. I'm not a patreon, so I don't have much to complain about, but who is a patreon and is disappointed is another side of the story. I will not play this again, as it is easier to search for CGs which is much faster and more practical. Since the gameplay of this game does not give you any emotion.
You can easily play only the last update for each year.You definitely sound like way more patient than 90% here:)
is the work of 4 month of development.
Not 4 months.
January is the vacation month like every year so far since 2015.
Also december was the release of BoB 2.I know most don't consider it an update,but that don't come out without work.
 
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First off thanks for taking the time to "bant". As a developer yourself you would understand the complexities on trying to deliver a NEW update and product every 2 months. As well as a developer yourself you would easily be able to figure out how delaying a build does not provide us with extra money (we get money every month, even on months we don't release anything).

Let me break it down for you (well for others mostly).

We get more support following a build than before, in fact we get much more support if we release a build on the end of the month then the beginning of the next. Why? well we have an extra week of the new build out there that brings in more support (you following?)

So our biggest support months are the month following a build! We're on upfront so after a build is released those numbers grow.

Nov release New / Increase / Deleted / Decreased / Total

View attachment 578725 Our

slowest month, is actually the release month!
We get the highest level of pledges deleted, lowest amount of new pledges. Why? Well because a new build has been out for a month now! People will gladly skip a month in order to grab the build the next day. But due to Bonus packs being released this month we do see the highest amount of pledge increases (this offsets the loss in $5.00 subs for the month) but it flucuates with what character is in the Bonus pack.

Dec Stats New / Increase / Deleted / Decreased / Total
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So how would we actually "maintain' monthly donations. Simply we would release in the middle of the month like every other dev (maybe even you do this). We would delay the bug fix to fall on the next month (in the beginning, like the majority of other devs) in order to push the build out to more people again (Following?). This scheme would allow us to capitalize on 2 weeks of post build upfront billing, then allow us to continue they hype with a bug fix the following month. Our slow month would only consist of 2 weeks.

But guess what we do? We release at the end of the month or the first week following. Allowing people to skip all of the release month (remember when I told you about the deleted pledges and not as many new pledges?). and pledge up again when the build releases.

I do realize patron is a shit platform for this type of stuff (god we have been over this like 10k x in the last 5 years remember Breeding Season prime example why). But not until mid last year has another viable option opened up for developers, that being Steam. We want to finish SU, and getting much closer to that goal this year is the objective. Then we can move towards releasing games full and complete and get off this nightmarish schedule.
And how does the promised 2 month release timer fit into this ?
If you are talking about development for existing characters most parts like expressions and poses are already done. The most things added were costumes (which were great), backrounds and text.
Codeing can of course be a problem, and I believe you guys when u say that you work on this game, but I dont think the content which you will put out is the work of 4 month of development. I guess it will be the same quantity and stuff we got in the latest updates. I hope I m wrong .
Still its a great game and heading in the right direction. I would like to see more plots and new thing, like including a plot with the justice league and IDK fight them or they need lex help or get suspicious. Right now the game seems to be pretty stale, you know we keep hearing all the time that they are there but they dont appear or have a prupose,
Give choices in the game like to battle or infiltrate the justice league, build their trust. You could use the daytime for this, which is underused and in the evening you break the heroes like it used to be. The heroes would get more depth if we meet them in the daytime. Lex should make them think he has changed by setting up a crisis and solving it or sth. There are so much unused possebilitys.
 
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Gunsmoke Games

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I paid in February expecting a release, and got chewed out in the Patreon Discord for daring to criticize the promise of a release date only to get that taken away and thrown to next month, essentially making my payment worthless. (There was no bonus pack either)

Call me dumb for assuming they’d be on time, but if that’s even a possibility, and they’re making 15K a month to split between three people anyway, they should just set the payments for full releases only.
Message us on Patreon we will gladly refund you the month!
 

IAmRatchet

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Message us on Patreon we will gladly refund you the month!
I don’t need the money back, just better consistency in release dates. I understand difficulties behind the scenes, but your track record is nothing to write home about. Consider it a donation, and I’ve learned my lesson in paying with the expectation of release instead of just paying for a product when it’s out.
 
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Gunsmoke Games

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I don’t need the money back, just better consistency in release dates. I understand difficulties behind the scenes, but your track record is nothing to write home about. Consider it a donation, and I’ve learned my lesson in paying with the expectation of release instead of just paying for a product when it’s out.
This is why he have our release window and releases set up this way. Allows you to still follow and pledge when you want. Thanks for the pledge.
 

quake123

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This is why he have our release window and releases set up this way. Allows you to still follow and pledge when you want. Thanks for the pledge.
But you'll need to look at it from the backers side the last update was more than 4 months ago. Yeah we get it a lot happened since then but an update once every 2 months helps show consistency and willingness to continue the project. Content being released is currently not adding new scenes but completing old ones so this should be very much possible. Show that consistency and watch the numbers grow don't and you could lose valuable resources because of it.
 

Gunsmoke Games

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But you'll need to look at it from the backers side the last update was more than 4 months ago. Yeah we get it a lot happened since then but an update once every 2 months helps show consistency and willingness to continue the project. Content being released is currently not adding new scenes but completing old ones so this should be very much possible. Show that consistency and watch the numbers grow don't and you could lose valuable resources because of it.
Please no more of this 4 months ago... Not like this!

I can't this horse is now mush, it's not even beaten it's literally ground up, and been sent to the glue factory. That glue has been used to piece together bad logic on this site (jokes), now it's back in the landfill waiting to be returned to earth and grow into grass. So another horse can then feed on it and we can begin the eventual "it's x problem " again and beat that horse till the cycle will then continue. Tis' the lifecycle of F95.

Sorry if you're new or haven't been in this thread that long. SU is 4 months since updates , but we have updated our Patreon since. SU isn't our only project, but it's our main one.
 

Count_Chocula

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I wonder if supporters of creative people in areas other than adult entertainment are this impatient. I mean, there’s a lot of creative work going on here so it can’t really be rushed past a certain extent. I think it’s the biological drive to get the sexual fix. The very thing that gets people to donate in the first place is what turns them against you when your creative cycle slows down a bit.

I’ve done my fair share of complaining about games here, but I feel like these guys deserve to have a few off-updates after so many years of consistent delivery. Same with MITY’s recent delay. Actually, now that I think about it, maybe there’s a curse on making games about Korra :unsure:

Well anyway, keep up the good work guys. Don’t let the haters bring you down.
 

Ouryuken

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Apr 28, 2017
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Check the facts before you are saying something stupid next time.
If you are a patron you can easy check each release day for the game for last 4 years.
Then you will see that nothing from what you say is truth.The extra days never add up to free month for them,never.
Yeah, and the extra delay days dont add up either, these 4 extra days, for example, will vanish into thin air, because that's how time works

Also, you still fail to see how going 1 week into the next month forces an extra month of payment per build, because you keep thinking "its the same 60 days" and you refuse to ask yourself "why dont they work from the 1st of one month, onto the 30/31th of the second month, if its the same 60 days"

But good for you, blind fanboys gonna fanboy
 
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I wonder if supporters of creative people in areas other than adult entertainment are this impatient. I mean, there’s a lot of creative work going on here so it can’t really be rushed past a certain extent. I think it’s the biological drive to get the sexual fix. The very thing that gets people to donate in the first place is what turns them against you when your creative cycle slows down a bit.

I’ve done my fair share of complaining about games here, but I feel like these guys deserve to have a few off-updates after so many years of consistent delivery. Same with MITY’s recent delay. Actually, now that I think about it, maybe there’s a curse on making games about Korra :unsure:

Well anyway, keep up the good work guys. Don’t let the haters bring you down.
Actually, people generally get pissed* when any kind of entertainment media (not only porn games) fails to release decent content, look at everything EA's put out in the past 2 years and look at how "fans" usually react when it doesn't suit them. Fascinating.
 

Gunsmoke Games

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Yeah, and the extra delay days dont add up either, these 4 extra days, for example, will vanish into thin air, because that's how time works

Also, you still fail to see how going 1 week into the next month forces an extra month of payment per build, because you keep thinking "its the same 60 days" and you refuse to ask yourself "why dont they work from the 1st of one month, onto the 30/31th of the second month, if its the same 60 days"

But good for you, blind fanboys gonna fanboy
100% been proven wrong about the extra payment. Anyone interested please read our post above
 
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