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avitus83

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Aug 9, 2016
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Yeah, immersion was always a grey zone as far as how realistic the premise was. But since their was a JLU episode to base it on where Lex and Roulette picked a fight club instead of a bordello, it was fine.

Updates like this (bar the horrible downward trend the art has made) break whatever believabilty the plot had.
So the whole idea was that the devices make it so that the girls not remember what happens during their nighttime in Lex's dungeon, ok, so far so good.
Now, Lex brings Barbara as his date to the villains ball at night. Its fine she will not remember it during her waking hours and the JL and Batman ar non the wiser. However, Barbara can interact with both her father and Bruce, there are even moments where Lex is busy in his booth with whomever of the other ladies so Babs is free to wander. What is stopping Babs from spilling the entire thing to har father or Bruce, since while at night, she is aware of it all?
First, I totally agree with you in the losing the original gameplay loop; I was kind of hoping to see the metabordello and stuff like that really fleshed out, with lots of new stripping scenes, costumes, etc. Instead of going deeper, they went wider and the whole experience lacks the immersion of the early iterations.

Second, I think this game is a good example of a game that was good in the early nascent days of the WEG scene. Almost 10 years ago, it was basically Princess Trainer and a whole bunch of crap. Anything that seemed remotely/slightly higher quality was put on a pedestal. I first learned about SU on ULMF before F95 came into existence, and SU seemed head and shoulders above its contemporaries as far as art quality and content went. Now there are numerous high quality projects out there, and SSR7's art seems all samey (and you can even just make art in his style with the right LORA off of CivitAI now). Everything that made this game special is in the past, and the devs have no idea how to stay relevant.
 

1138op

Member
Jun 2, 2018
148
818
They aren't using AI, just because the art is trash doesn't mean it's AI. It just means Sunset is phoning it in.

The sad thing is that AI could actually do a better job than Sunset at this point.

For example, I whipped these up in just a few minutes using a generic DCAU lora (not trained on any sunset images afaik) and a single inpainting pass over the faces to clean up some detail.

You could look at these and figure out that they're AI generated, but the complaints about the art in this update are just because he's really dropped the ball on quality.

I'm just really tired of all these dumbasses calling "AI" when the real culprit is shit artists.
What AI program did you use?
 

Summer Love

Active Member
Jul 5, 2017
575
1,447
not gonna lie y'all... I haven't touched this game since the update that started the Gotham City arc. I'm sick and tired of being invested in a character/group of characters only for SR7 to completely abandon them and start up a whole new arc when the previous one isn't even finished. I was ready and waiting for Luthor to do some very in-character thing with Thymesecra or however you spell it and turn it into some island-wide sex resort or something for VIP customers of his clubs in Metropolis or something like that, but NOOO SR7 got bored and decided to move onto something else... Sorry, but never again. I'll come back once he finishes up the previous areas in 1-2 years as is usual for him.
 

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Lupin the 3rd

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Sep 21, 2019
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So is it Ai yes or no? Ai Games won't be on my Collection, that's why I ask.

Gunsmoke Games when you really used Ai or considering doing so, then stop smoking. You got the bad stuff.
 

gnd53

Member
Jul 6, 2017
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The naming conventions SR7 uses for sprites are such a pain in the ass. Half of Kathy Duquesne is under "duq" and half is under "kat". I have no idea where Barbara's blue dress costume is because her sprites are spread between a dizzying array of prefixes.
Haha, I think every time he revisits a character he doesn't bother to check what the old naming convention was and comes up with a new one. It's maddening for anyone trying to go through the resources.
 

TheSinful

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Jun 11, 2018
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When was the last time they updated the bordello with new scenes?
Whenever they introduced Cassie and Donna.


On an unrelated note, imagine being super hyped for making Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor meeting with the latter revealing he's married to Talia and the entirety of said meeting is "I won't work with you Lex, you're evil." "That's fine. Btw, I'm married to Talia now." "I see."
 

Zellgoddess

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May 11, 2017
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So is it Ai yes or no? Ai Games won't be on my Collection, that's why I ask.
Highly doubtful as AI wasn't a big deal as it is now when this game was started and the art for the most part has stayed fairly consistent, LAMO when this game was started i don't think there was but maybe one AI art program and it was poor quality to what it is now. Take note they could be using it now though as im not one to ask about any AI art BS, im just going off how old this game is.
 

jvbatman

Member
Feb 16, 2024
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They aren't using AI, just because the art is trash doesn't mean it's AI. It just means Sunset is phoning it in.

The sad thing is that AI could actually do a better job than Sunset at this point.

For example, I whipped these up in just a few minutes using a generic DCAU lora (not trained on any sunset images afaik) and a single inpainting pass over the faces to clean up some detail.

You could look at these and figure out that they're AI generated, but the complaints about the art in this update are just because he's really dropped the ball on quality.

I'm just really tired of all these dumbasses calling "AI" when the real culprit is shit artists. Don't let sunset off the hook so easily!
I really love the Bruce Timm style body and the more this game drifts from that the worse everything looks. From the beginning I didn't really vibe with the nipples. They feel over drawn and shaded and that seems to show up more and more as he's adding all sorts of shadows and contouring on abs and such that just don't fit with the designs and just look terrible.
 
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RunRunRunRun

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Aug 14, 2021
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8 years for this.

Great example of the world moving on.

This 'game' could now be generated in under a month using simple online resources and look better to boot.

Give up. You've milked this for all you could now move on to a different scam.
 

jackfox147

Newbie
Jun 9, 2017
29
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I doubt this is being made with AI, but this is also one of the cases where i 100% think AI would help. Its not like there is a ton of variation in girls or game play. Use the AI to make the sprites and then go over them. I have no problem with an artist using an AI generated image of their style and then fixing the mistakes. I see AI the same way i see Photoshop. Its a tool, use it.

My only concern with Sunset using AI is that they have shown they dont care about quality and might actively have contempt for their fan base. 14GB uncompressed. Come on
 

Draven_Ra

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Apr 25, 2021
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I'm slightly stuck on Themyscira with Wonder Woman, she keeps asking for a special outfit, but I can't find where to go get it? Can someone point me in the right direction?
 
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