Erebus69, thank you for responding to my question. I have asked several questions of users here with zero answers so this is great to begin some constructive dialogue. I do want to preface that I'm not calling you a liar, and my only intention here is to build on your statements so you and I exist in the same factual reality. Then we can both understand both peoples perspectives.
There's been some art that seems odd, like what I linked.
Why hide it? AI stigma, hiding possible creator burnout, subscriber backlash, admission now would incite a shit storm hypocritical comments, engagement
The art you linked isn't AI.
All your statements around why to hide usage are true. But, I ask you then what happens if you're transparent? I believe you mitigate every single one of your risks, and can actually turn them into an upside.
AI isn't where it needs to be, and I don't think it will ever have the ability at the consistency level needed for what we do. However it's great at getting single images, just not building out scenes.
"AI art looks like SR7's, then I ask what was the AI art trained on?" this is a chicken and egg argument/defense. Just because others can do it doesn't stop yall from doing the same. With yall having all the original art having a private model of only your art work doesn't seem like too far of a stretch. Especially for generating linework heads, bodys, poses, feet (for Liefeld ), etc
I think AI can be a great tool, when used appropriately. I have been experimenting with Grok, since it allows multiple file inputs such as character files, locations, etc and some of the results based story output it will give. One of the problems I have is its bias towards moral outcomes without specific prompting. Not sure if I trust the "vibe coders" who use AI though
In my opinion if your stance relies on someone being deceitful in order for you to be correct, then there is nothing I can say to change your mind. But I will entertain some of your statements so maybe someone else avoids this logic trap.
I wasn't being defensive, as I didn't believe you were accusing us (I hope you weren't) I was explaining the AI workflow.
Artists hand draws boobies -> Anon take picture trains AI -> adds prompts "more big boobs" -> AI gens picture with 6 fingers and 3 arms -> Anon gens 3000 pictures -> wow great pic "must upload" -> Erebus69 sees boob pic "wow that looks like SR7s art" -> GG drops new update -> Erebus69 "damn pic looks like AI, SR7 AI user!".
That is how it works, the egg comes before the chicken, unless you believe that because chickens lay eggs, than the chicken must come before the egg.
I will reiterate, that AI is not there for gen art if you need consistency. If you use it you will need to work around it's shortcomings, it's not good for shoe horning it into a workflow. There just isn't a great use case right now, and I really don't think ever tbh.
Most fan art edits are leagues ahead of gen AI art tbh. With them, it's much quicker to get something passable using all SR7s actual art, and manipulating it, than asking a comp to redraw it. One of the major complaints on this thread is "same body different head", which gets tons of love on the Fan art thread.
