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What is your preference for my 2025 Project ( search thread for "Poll 2025" to see details)

  • GAME 1 - Hex Academy

    Votes: 773 10.5%
  • GAME 2 - Arcane Academy: Goblin Uprising

    Votes: 1,170 15.9%
  • GAME 3 - Sexbot Rebellion

    Votes: 780 10.6%
  • GAME 4 - Dairy Dynasty

    Votes: 739 10.0%
  • GAME 5 - Space Journey X Continued

    Votes: 2,681 36.4%
  • Any above OK with me

    Votes: 1,104 15.0%
  • Something else

    Votes: 115 1.6%

  • Total voters
    7,362

Nirdaeel

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Yeah, no shit. The assumption would be that once the Submission stat is high enough, T'ris would no longer care about the legality... the more mundane assumption is that the game currently has no underlying system that getting caught would hook into (but then again, I've never been caught by a system patrol while carrying contraband in the game, so I dunno how the game handles it. A fine? Space Jail? They just confiscate it?)
you can get some safe cargo space for contraband if you put cloak modules on your cargo equipment, if caught you get items confiscated and lose reputation and some money i think
 

Evangelion-01

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Yeah, no shit. The assumption would be that once the Submission stat is high enough, T'ris would no longer care about the legality... the more mundane assumption is that the game currently has no underlying system that getting caught would hook into (but then again, I've never been caught by a system patrol while carrying contraband in the game, so I dunno how the game handles it. A fine? Space Jail? They just confiscate it?)
Even with high SUB and EXH T'Ris main motivator is still the mission going home... going to prison would certainly interfer with that mission ;)
 
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slowpersun

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I haven't met Moira yet. I guess that might be the issue.
No, it's just bugged (depending on what day you start on). Some check function is missing it I guess. I have the autotrainer scene unlocked in the gallery AND have Moira (just got 4th map fragment), but no matter what, T'ris still says "The Autotrainer calibration I performed yesterday was... interesting. I might consider a practical test. At some later time." The T'ris sex scene in the gallery is still locked, FYI.

Started on Day 70, so I have to assume that if you didn't skip over the quest, it should trigger properly.
 

Nirdaeel

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No, it's just bugged (depending on what day you start on). Some check function is missing it I guess. I have the autotrainer scene unlocked in the gallery AND have Moira (just got 4th map fragment), but no matter what, T'ris still says "The Autotrainer calibration I performed yesterday was... interesting. I might consider a practical test. At some later time." The T'ris sex scene in the gallery is still locked, FYI.

Started on Day 70, so I have to assume that if you didn't skip over the quest, it should trigger properly.
did you check the hint on quest list? as you will see what you need to do to unlock that scene
 

LokkenJP

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It was hard to crack 200m, initially I didn't think this would be possible. Now I am sure even 220m can be achieved, all you need is like week of grinding.

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And here's golden seductress. Initially I thought GS will always have higher value (than any other type of shell), but there's major cockblocks - devious attitude, which requires at least 1 immobilizer if IQ is 198 or lower, and 2+ if IQ is higher.

I also tried to crack 1m earnings, and I failed but only because it's so hard to find best parts.
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Earnings for bots in the arcade are hardcoded to include diminishing returns, and capped at 1mill creds per bot per day when the value of the bot reaches 100mill. Anything past that won't increase arcade earnings for that bot any more.

For reference, those are the "breaking" points:

Bot values - Maximum income per day
100.000 - 15.000cr
500.000 - 60.000cr
1.000.000 - 100.000cr
10.000.000 - 500.000cr
100.000.000 - 1.000.000cr

Between those "break points" the earnings follow a lineal increase, minus a small random amount (final true value is a random number between 90% and 100% of the expected earnings, changing daily at random). And as I said above, anything past 100.000.000 on the Bot value no longer increases the daily income.

So, except for direct auction sale, or for the fun of it, it doesn't make any sense to crank up the value of any bot past that 100mill threshold. Earning wise, its always better to diversify and get several shells to that 100m limit (ideally all of them in the Arcade) rather than focusing on just one single bot.
 
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Nirdaeel

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You mean wait around forever, since there's a bug? And yes, it says to wait, just like the quest. I'm now on day 212, still waiting...
no, i meant you must give her some cocktail while she is on the mess room, then visit her at her quarters to ask for a favor again

or maybe you need to talk to nimhe first about how the training is going, after all, T'ris still thinks she is helping not being trained
 

slowpersun

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no, i meant you must give her some cocktail while she is on the mess room, then visit her at her quarters to ask for a favor again

or maybe you need to talk to nimhe first about how the training is going, after all, T'ris still thinks she is helping not being trained
Or do neither, since it's impossible due to a bug. When she tells a player "The Autotrainer calibration I performed yesterday was... interesting. I might consider a practical test. At some later time." that's AFTER giving her a drink. And I can chat with Nimhe all damn day to no avail.

Stop assuming someone is incompetent when there's literally a single dev who relies on a player base for QA/QC. Otherwise, bugs would only get fixed when the dev finds them on their own...
 
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Nirdaeel

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Or do neither, since it's impossible due to a bug. When she tells a player "The Autotrainer calibration I performed yesterday was... interesting. I might consider a practical test. At some later time." that's AFTER giving her a drink. And I can chat with Nimhe all damn day to no avail.

Stop assuming someone is incompetent when there's literally a single dev who relies on a player base for QA/QC. Otherwise, bugs would only get fixed when the dev finds them on their own...
did you gave her the astropolitan cocktail?

and did you see the training throught the lab cameras? need to look when she train at 19:00
 

Evangelion-01

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...just to make sure since you never mentioned this in your posts... did you check the lab cam at 20:00 when T'ris is NOT in her room?
 

slowpersun

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did you gave her the astropolitan cocktail?

and did you see the training throught the lab cameras? need to look when she train at 19:00
Yes, of course I gave her the right drink. And no, I can't see T'ris training through the cameras because IT'S A BUG AND THE GAME THINKS IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED BUT IT'S MISSING A GODDAMN FUCKING CHECK FUNCTION.
...just to make sure since you never mentioned this in your posts... did you check the lab cam at 20:00 when T'ris is NOT in her room?
Except she IS in her room at 20:00 exercising like normal because it's a bug.
 

Evangelion-01

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Yes, of course I gave her the right drink. And no, I can't see T'ris training through the cameras because IT'S A BUG AND THE GAME THINKS IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED BUT IT'S MISSING A GODDAMN FUCKING CHECK FUNCTION.

Except she IS in her room at 20:00 exercising like normal because it's a bug.
You know she can't be always down in the lab to get boned by a Dildo... right?
I don't recall wether there is a frequence to it or it's purely random, but if you missed her going down the first time it might need several days for this scene to trigger again
 

slowpersun

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I don't recall wether there is a frequence to it or it's purely random, but if you missed her going down the first time it might need several days for this scene to trigger again
Or never, because it's a bug. I know the game thinks it has happened since the auto-trainer scene is unlocked in the gallery while the initial sex scene is not, but since I started this run on Day 70 the game is clearly missing a single line of code somewhere that checks whether the scene has triggered, probably related to the fact that this "quest" has been extended to eventually include/require Moira.

Or, you know, just Occam's Razor. What's the simpler explanation... at least two people are equally stupid, or that the single dev makes mistakes and is reliant on a player base to troubleshoot said bugs?
 

Evangelion-01

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Or, you know, just Occam's Razor. What's the simpler explanation... at least two people are equally stupid, or that the single dev makes mistakes and is reliant on a player base to troubleshoot said bugs?
That's a rather dangerous question to ask you know?
In my line of work there is this very descriptive saying... "The problem in general sits in front of the screen" :devilish:
But hey f you are right y.v. will likely find this error and fix it in the next release... or proof you wrong... either way you'll get your answer atleast than.
 

Nirdaeel

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Does anybody know how to solve puzzle in a beacon of assembly
did you check the plate on the right side? can you post a screen here as i have it done, and not sure which one is lol....

if is one with three columns , and there are icons with 1 2 or 3 dots, and one in the middle has a line above.. it refers that you need to put bot cores there, being the one with the line an elite
 

slowpersun

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In my line of work there is this very descriptive saying... "The problem in general sits in front of the screen" :devilish:
Does your line of work have QA/QC? Then it's not an accurate comparison, stop trying to sell me lemons and telling me they're limes... it's not user error if it's so poorly designed that it's not just idiots who get caught up in the problem. Well, either that or you work for Oracle!

But hey f you are right y.v. will likely find this error and fix it in the next release... or proof you wrong... either way you'll get your answer atleast than.
Or it won't get fixed. That's also an option. Especially since the Moira portion of the quest was added back in 1.2... it's not impossible that the check function is only missing for Day 70 starts. Or it works but the explanation hasn't been updated, which is basically the same thing as it being a bug. Gameplay design is as much of an art as it is a science.
 

Arheme

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Does your line of work have QA/QC? Then it's not an accurate comparison, stop trying to sell me lemons and telling me they're limes... it's not user error if it's so poorly designed that it's not just idiots who get caught up in the problem. Well, either that or you work for Oracle!


Or it won't get fixed. That's also an option. Especially since the Moira portion of the quest was added back in 1.2... it's not impossible that the check function is only missing for Day 70 starts. Or it works but the explanation hasn't been updated, which is basically the same thing as it being a bug. Gameplay design is as much of an art as it is a science.
o_Oo_Oo_O:cautious::cautious::sleep::sleep:
 

Nirdaeel

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omg, was trying to break an arrow for him, unpacked version 1.40.18b on a clear folder.. and there is no day 70 start.. maybe he meant 75? or 60?
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and no, there is no hidden button there, i've checked it also..

starting from 75 and i'll check if can catch that annoying bug too
 
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