VN Ren'Py SpaceCorps XXX [S2 v2.7.5] [RanliLabz]

[RanliLabz]

Then you've not understood anything that I've written, congratulations.
I don't care that there are games that I don't or won't like. I'm not here to malign any kinks.
What I care about is knowing beforehand what I'm getting.
When I go to buy a pizza that is marketed as a regular, I'm sure as hell pissed when I discover that almost the entire topping is pineapple!
Admit that you're a Hawaiian and everything will be ok! The people that like pineapple will more easily find it, the people that hate it won't bother with it and those that don't care won't care. Literally everybody wins.

SpaceCorps indulges almost every kink - but Hawaiian pizza is a step too far.

It is an Abomination unto God.

 

[kurupt87]

SpaceCorps indulges almost every kink - but Hawaiian pizza is a step too far.

It is an Abomination unto God.

It surely is.

And whilst this game does attempt to indulge every kink it can think of, it overwhelmingly indulges player submission over player domination.
Which is fine but, as I've said numerous times now, the game should be honest that it does it.

 

[dboura]

It surely is.

And whilst this game does attempt to indulge every kink it can think of, it overwhelmingly indulges player submission over player domination.
Which is fine but, as I've said numerous times now, the game should be honest that it does it.

That's just it though, As perles75 and I have been stating in our posts. There is NO DEFINITE that the MC is EITHER OR. SpaceCorps is NO WHERE near the actual meat of the game yet. Essentially, its still in the Prologue portion of the entire scope. While he has been forced into much, if you chose to allow such. He is nearing the point of discovery. Discovering his dynamic of Dom/Sub/Switch. Hence, the option of the Krathi Wildman scene.

https://f95zone.to/threads/spacecorps-xxx-v0-3-4a-ranlilabz.21862/page-241#post-4374800 is the exact post, by RanliLabz, about why the character growth is an integral part of the game. The scope is to allow the character to grow into whatever you wish him to from the hardships and comical perspective of his sexual escapades, which again is totally avoidable if you chose.

And again, I will specify, game time wise, its the 1st day. Will also add that he was a virgin with a VERY naive and limited view of sex, sexuality, and sexual role, when he first stepped into the nurses station. So question is now, in RL when you first took to your sexual life, did you understand your deviancy, your kinks, your role. Or did you discover that in time? The question is rhetorical, as its personal, but seriously think about it. Many don't even discover their gender preference by that point yet. RanliLabz placed into the game the MC's discovery of his entire sexual identification, comically too.

SpaceCorps indulges almost every kink - but Hawaiian pizza is a step too far.

It is an Abomination unto God.

and RanliLabz, don't make me beat you!!!!

 

[yoloswag123haha]

Instant game death, I think I was taking a risk by making his cock 'only' 8.66 inches long, since a lot of the big games are in the 1-2 foot range. In at least one of those, I'd like to see a love interest take one look, scream, and run away

Speaking of, in the beginning I think it's said that Jimmi is in something like the 99th percentile for human dick size. I'm curious if that means characters like Rydick and Darkfyre have been augmented/genetically enhanced, or if they're just extreme outliers.

 

[RanliLabz]

Speaking of, in the beginning I think it's said that Jimmi is in something like the 99th percentile for human dick size. I'm curious if that means characters like Rydick and Darkfyre have been augmented/genetically enhanced, or if they're just extreme outliers.

Rydick’s augmented. I never really thought Darkfyre through - also augmented, I guess [or the power of prayer ]

 

[yoloswag123haha]

Rydick’s augmented. I never really thought Darkfyre through - also augmented, I guess [or the power of prayer ]

Wow, what kind of prick calls someone else's dick small when theirs isn't even natural?!
Lucky for him I'm into that shit

 

[kurupt87]

RanliLabz placed into the game the MC's discovery of his entire sexual identification, comically too.

Yes, comically, by being raped by every person he meets. Hilarious.
The MC is, imo, unforgivably stupid. He's like the typical idiot savant MC except he's an anti-savant; rather than everything working out for him for no reason, everything rapes/kills him for no reason.
He also seems to be the only person from his colony who actually believed in the crazy cult, apart from perhaps Anna.

Just like you don't get to put tags on that are only in the game's hypothetical plan, you don't get to describe what the game is going to be without describing what the game currently is.
Yes, you can play the game as a "dom" and you will (gameover options ignored for obvious reasons) have one or two scenes.
Or, you can play as a sub and have around 50.
I don't care what the game will be, I care what it is right now.

 

[kurupt87]

I should point out that you're probably in the minority to think that the game should have the sub tag, so maybe you should entertain the idea that your definition of a 'sub game' is too restrictive.

And I reiterate that the game is not really catering to sub-oriented people because for me the MC does not necessarily read sub (unless you really want). And not in the future, but actually now in the current state. I've seen and played sub games and this one has none of that vibe.

If you want to pretend that this game is not sub focused you can, of course. That doesn't change the fact that it is.
It is only arguably not sub focused if you assume the player to be a domme (who plays this like most guys play fem protag games, make an uber slut).
For a guy, playing an MC like this narrated in the 2nd person - it is undeniably a sub focused game. Because almost all of the content is sub focused.

 

[Dreadder]

Still can't replicate it. I'll do some heavy testing before the next update to see if I can figure out what's going on!

Hmm, I glanced a bit at the code for that conversation (hope you don't mind) and it would seem that the conversation about brothers is cut short (and I get forwarded to the second set of questions) right after Fatima mentions her twin brothers - right after the game checks for bisex/bicurious (my MC is neither), so I don't even get the youngest brother mentioned (I actually learned about him from the code just now).

Is it just me seeing things or did you perhaps forgot to combine your "if bisex/bicurious" clause with else statement?

 

[Dreadder]

Still can't replicate it. I'll do some heavy testing before the next update to see if I can figure out what's going on!

Hmm, I glanced a bit at the code for that conversation (hope you don't mind) and it would seem that the conversation about brothers is cut short (and I get forwarded to the second set of questions) right after Fatima mentions her twin brothers - right after the game checks for bisex/bicurious (my MC is neither), so I don't even get the youngest brother mentioned (I actually learned about him from the code just now).

Is it just me seeing things or did you perhaps forgot to combine your "if bisex/bicurious" clause with else statement?

Adding the else jump bunk01b_safa_convo1_3d clause and fixing the indentation of following statements to the left seemed to indeed fix the problem, so I guess that was the culprit after all.

By the way, I really hope you don't mind me fiddling with the game scripts...

 

[alexxxx000]

I have the feeling that Sam's mom had an interesting life in Ganymede pre-pastor Chang

so true

now we only need more Pastor Chang

Thanks alexxxx! And welcome on board the good ship Patreon! Yeah, really enjoyed doing all that backstory, and the twins were an enjoyable scene to make! I think Fatima's currently the most popular character for f/m players - although she's more anarchist than Commie (that's more Dave and HanZi's bag )

Lol - it's Sam (and possibly Anna if I have the time).

First of all: YAY SAM

Makes sense she is an anarchist, looking back at the convos with her.

Oh my dear, you really do not want meet real communists, do you, and the same is true about Fatima. She would "like" them as she "likes" Cole's father. Anyway, an interesting and appealing character, for sure

I know a few socialists though. My ex for instance. Ex being the imperative word.

 

[alexxxx000]

I should point out that you're probably in the minority to think that the game should have the sub tag, so maybe you should entertain the idea that your definition of a 'sub game' is too restrictive.

And I reiterate that the game is not really catering to sub-oriented people because for me the MC does not necessarily read sub (unless you really want). And not in the future, but actually now in the current state. I've seen and played sub games and this one has none of that vibe.

As someone who enjoys submission oriented games, like say, Lustful Desires, I'd have to wholeheartedly agree.
This is not it, like at all.

He might not be dominating, but he certainly isn't subby...

 

[RanliLabz]

Hmm, I glanced a bit at the code for that conversation (hope you don't mind) and it would seem that the conversation about brothers is cut short (and I get forwarded to the second set of questions) right after Fatima mentions her twin brothers - right after the game checks for bisex/bicurious (my MC is neither), so I don't even get the youngest brother mentioned (I actually learned about him from the code just now).
Is it just me seeing things or did you perhaps forgot to combine your "if bisex/bicurious" clause with else statement?

Fantastic! Thank Dreadder Saved me a lot of rootling round - and everyone is more than welcome to look at my code [if they can bear to see the horror ]. Should be fixed now.

so true
now we only need more Pastor Chang
First of all: YAY SAM
Makes sense she is an anarchist, looking back at the convos with her.
I know a few socialists though. My ex for instance. Ex being the imperative word.

Kind of an anarcho-libertarian, tho - she's not really on board with an equity agenda. Oh, and a bit more Chang and Sam's Mom coming next

As someone who enjoys submission oriented games, like say, Lustful Desires, I'd have to wholeheartedly agree.
This is not it, like at all.
He might not be dominating, but he certainly isn't subby...

I don't really see him as sub - just someone in a situation. Luke's a sub - albeit an incredibly weird one (bit like Bill Murray's abusive masochist in LSoH ), and Krathi's a sort of sub [if you prove your dominance].

It is only arguably not sub focused if you assume the player to be a domme (who plays this like most guys play fem protag games, make an uber slut).

While I don't agree with your overall point, it sounds like you've hit on a solution for your own gameplay. Could you not just play the game as a Bi-Dom who dominates MC from start to finish?

 

[kurupt87]

While I don't agree with your overall point, it sounds like you've hit on a solution for your own gameplay. Could you not just play the game as a Bi-Dom who dominates MC from start to finish?

I am a bi dom.
I don't play many games where the aim is to repeatedly ruin the MC's day, m or f protag. Very rarely play those games but, when I do I'd need to be attracted to the MC - I'm not attracted to this MC. Not attracted to most of the models tbh, far too ripped for me. But that's an aesthetic thing and irrelevant really.
I especially don't play them GoR/fuckslut style when they're narrated 2nd person - I'd need to skip all the writing, which seems a bit of a waste considering the medium.
As seems to be intended, I play m protag 2nd person games as an avatar for myself. Which is why I didn't enjoy this game.
But, it's hardly my fault for unwittingly stumbling into a game where the MC is repeatedly raped when the game description makes no mention of this core character trait. Is it.

 

[RanliLabz]

I am a bi dom.
I don't play many games where the aim is to repeatedly ruin the MC's day, m or f protag. Very rarely play those games but, when I do I'd need to be attracted to the MC - I'm not attracted to this MC. Not attracted to most of the models tbh, far too ripped for me. But that's an aesthetic thing and irrelevant really.
I especially don't play them GoR/fuckslut style when they're narrated 2nd person - I'd need to skip all the writing, which seems a bit of a waste considering the medium.
As seems to be intended, I play m protag 2nd person games as an avatar for myself. Which is why I didn't enjoy this game.
But, it's hardly my fault for unwittingly stumbling into a game where the MC is repeatedly raped when the game description makes no mention of this core character trait. Is it.

As others have noted, the game’s description lets you know the set-up of the game - and as you’ve been informed, you stopped playing just before the two biggest scenes in which MC dominates. He is, however, not a sub unless players choose to make him one; and can avoid every single sexual encounter.

On the second person point: You can choose his name - so call him ‘You Yourself’ and the worse you’ll endure is a touch of bad grammar [which I can safely say we’re all used to on this site ] There’s nothing to say that you have to play the game as an avatar, or to identify In any way with MC. The game - like all media - is what you choose to make of it

 

[kurupt87]

As others have noted, the game’s description lets you know the set-up of the game - and as you’ve been informed, you stopped playing just before the two biggest scenes in which MC dominates. He is, however, not a sub unless players choose to make him one; and can avoid every single sexual encounter.

I don't think I did though? I missed the yellow woman but if the 2nd was the interrogator, unless I'm going mad, dom'ing her gives you game over - which means that it's an irrelevant non-choice there to show a funny end. Because that's where I quit, after her scene when I got the live with your choices option again, that I was depressingly familiar with.

On the second person point: You can choose his name - so call him ‘You Yourself’ and the worse you’ll endure is a touch of bad grammar [which I can safely say we’re all used to on this site ] There’s nothing to say that you have to play the game as an avatar, or to identify In any way with MC. The game - like all media - is what you choose to make of it

You completely misunderstand the 2nd person problem - it is the "you" that is the problem.
If it were "he" then I'd have much less problem playing it fuckslut style but, "you" is incredibly accusatory and can't be gotten past.
Hell, even "I" would be better - an MC with a strongly defined character can be "I" during lewd scenes and it wouldn't bother me whatever kink they got into.
But "you" is obviously me, the player. Which is why most games use it, they want the player engaged, it's the strength of games a a medium afterall, that engagement.
So I have to deal with the "you" and the submissive content because I want most of the kinks on - just not with the MC as the sub. And if I reject them then they're banned and wtf am I to do now?

 

[RanliLabz]

I don't think I did though? I missed the yellow woman but if the 2nd was the interrogator, unless I'm going mad, dom'ing her gives you game over - which means that it's an irrelevant non-choice there to show a funny end. Because that's where I quit, after her scene when I got the live with your choices option again, that I was depressingly familiar with.

If you played the scene through, after she rides you you can flip her on the table and have sex with her for a good ending (the trigger choice is something along the lines of ‘I don’t it to stop’).

You completely misunderstand the 2nd person problem - it is the "you" that is the problem.
If it were "he" then I'd have much less problem playing it fuckslut style but, "you" is incredibly accusatory and can't be gotten past.
Hell, even "I" would be better - an MC with a strongly defined character can be "I" during lewd scenes and it wouldn't bother me whatever kink they got into.
But "you" is obviously me, the player. Which is why most games use it, they want the player engaged, it's the strength of games a a medium afterall, that engagement.
So I have to deal with the "you" and the submissive content because I want most of the kinks on - just not with the MC as the sub. And if I reject them then they're banned and wtf am I to do now?

Well, again, you can just call your character You Yourself - but I think the internet already has enough pronoun discussions without furthering this one

 

[Dreadder]

Fantastic! Thank Dreadder Saved me a lot of rootling round - and everyone is more than welcome to look at my code [if they can bear to see the horror ]. Should be fixed now.

Glad to be of service.

Well, I'm no programmer but the code looked otherwise perfectly ok to me. It's just that it's getting a wee bit complex in places with all the variables and branches, so missing a step or two every once in a while is a certainty at this point.

Oh, I just hope you also corrected the indentation of the following part of that script, since it was off a bit as well.

 

[RanliLabz]

Glad to be of service.

Well, I'm no programmer but the code looked otherwise perfectly ok to me. It's just that it's getting a wee bit complex in places with all the variables and branches, so missing a step or two every once in a while is a certainty at this point.

Oh, I just hope you also corrected the indentation of the following part of that script, since it was off a bit as well.

That was actually the bit I needed to change [no need for else, since changing the indent means an automatic skip to 3b for non-bi].

 

[SuddenReal]

Kind of an anarcho-libertarian, tho - she's not really on board with an equity agenda.

Damn those archaic librarians!