Others Completed SpacEscape -Chibi Edition- [v0.55] [Urielmanx7]

[Lerial]

if the game involves graphics, then yes it does. game making involves a whole lot besides coding. Art, music, literature, it's a triple threat.
Now something like a text adventure, then no.


Being high and mighty doesn't sound condescending to you?
Let me put it this way:
Person A is a good lover and better at washing dishes. Person B says Person A is definitely better at washing dishes than being a lover.
Does it not imply that person A is detrimental at love making?

no.

if, for example, i compare usain bolt with another sprinter, usain bolt might be better than him.
but that other sprinter could be, i dunno, still better than 99.999% of the rest of the people on the entire planet.
in a direct one to one comparison, sure, the latter might be worse off, but that doesn't mean it's outright 'bad'.
X is better than Y, doesn't automatically mean Y is bad, especially to the degree of 'detrimental'.
especially if what was being done is to praise X. comparing it to Y is not meant as an insult, or represent how bad Y is. Y's basically just a reference.

now, that's not to say it never CAN be. but it doesn't automatically imply it, either. your example LITERALLY said she's a good lover, but a better dishwasher. which means, it's not even a condescending remark, it's just 'true' within your example. you also said 'good' lover. as in, she's good at being a lover, not detrimental, just because she might be REALLY good at washing dishes.

also, making a basic observation/sharing an opinion, doesn't also make someone 'high and mighty' or condescending.

it's kinda obvious uriel has issues making games. he spent what, at least 5 years, on a game that had minimal content for the whole 5 years, very little development, then basically scrapped the entire project, and for something like 3 years, still doesn't have something to show for it.
yet other devs can put out more content in 1-2 months... i'm not dissing him or anything, i like his work and whatnot, but it's not even really an opinion at this point.

it's not condescending to see there seems to be an issue with that.

Maybe he does know better. But spouting off things just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

true. but expecting people not to, well, have you met people? they don't usually do that. they express themselves. especially in places like forums, where getting together to talk about stuff is well, kinda the point.
let's be honest, it's not about him saying stuff, it's that he apparently offended you.

 

[DoorFive]

no.

if, for example, i compare usain bolt with another sprinter, usain bolt might be better than him.
but that other sprinter could be, i dunno, still better than 99.999% of the rest of the people on the entire planet.
in a direct one to one comparison, sure, the latter might be worse off, but that doesn't mean it's outright 'bad'.
X is better than Y, doesn't automatically mean Y is bad, especially to the degree of 'detrimental'.
especially if what was being done is to praise X. comparing it to Y is not meant as an insult, or represent how bad Y is. Y's basically just a reference.

now, that's not to say it never CAN be. but it doesn't automatically imply it, either. your example LITERALLY said she's a good lover, but a better dishwasher. which means, it's not even a condescending remark, it's just 'true' within your example. you also said 'good' lover. as in, she's good at being a lover, not detrimental, just because she might be REALLY good at washing dishes.

also, making a basic observation/sharing an opinion, doesn't also make someone 'high and mighty' or condescending.

it's kinda obvious uriel has issues making games. he spent what, at least 5 years, on a game that had minimal content for the whole 5 years, very little development, then basically scrapped the entire project, and for something like 3 years, still doesn't have something to show for it.
yet other devs can put out more content in 1-2 months... i'm not dissing him or anything, i like his work and whatnot, but it's not even really an opinion at this point.

it's not condescending to see there seems to be an issue with that.


true. but expecting people not to, well, have you met people? they don't usually do that. they express themselves. especially in places like forums, where getting together to talk about stuff is well, kinda the point.
let's be honest, it's not about him saying stuff, it's that he apparently offended you.

Someone got in the mood to argue. Well, I'm not gonna give you what you want. Find it somewhere else.
Bringing shit up that's already past...ffs
If you want to fight an injustice, go ahead, be my guest. In case you didn't know, this is the INTERNET. GASP! Someone was called bold and condescending!
For real? Is that riling you up so much? You are aware people will say what's on their minds, right?
It's a forum where opinions will be far flung. Get over it.

Edit: Look, I was harsh, sure. and I apologize for that. But you are calling the kettle black. You say people will express themselves. but it's not fine for me to express myself? Look, Again, I'm sorry for what I said.

 

[edgartheslayer]

no.

Oh don't bother. He isn't going to admit he was wrong and assumptive by "excusing himself from reading" most of what I wrote when I debunked him, you're also wasting time.

Look, I was harsh, sure. and I apologize for that. But you are calling the kettle black. You say people will express themselves. but it's not fine for me to express myself? Look, Again, I'm sorry for what I said.

WHY ARE YOU APOLOGIZING LOL Someone expressed their opinion, you called them out, I called you out, someone else called you out - at the end of the day all opinions are open for discussions are criticisms. You said yourself this is the internet so why are you acting this way? It's not about you being harsh or offended or anything. It's about arguing about why we perceive things, and then express them in a specific way. If you out'ed from a discussion or topic, you can just say so, or don't reply anything at all lol No one is forcing you to argue with everyone who replies to you. Just move on and do your stuff

 

[DoorFive]

WHY ARE YOU APOLOGIZING LOL

uhh...Because I feel like it? if an apology offends you, then I'm not sorry, suck my dick you skull drudgery rabbit fucker. is that better
Joking, of course.

Maybe I want to argue. Maybe, I don't. Maybe I'm bi-polar and can't decide. Maybe I'm a Bi bi-polar polar bear. Just have fun with it dude. Run with it! And don't look back. Can't we be friends? look, if you don't want to suck my dick, I'll suck yours - maybe you have a vagina, I'm not biased, I'm a connoisseur! (Don't quote me on that, I have no idea what these hangy downy parts are for)

And if that sounds like sexual harassment, then I'm sorry. Whoops! didn't mean to offend you with an apology!~
Just a joke bro. Be my friend. Do it! (Plz don't hate me)

Oh don't bother. He isn't going to admit he was wrong and assumptive by "excusing himself from reading" most of what I wrote when I debunked him, you're also wasting time.

Are you the same human that wrote that long piece? Yeah, I had better use of my time (Watching goatse porn because I'm a festering putrid piece of human garbage) than reading that slog. You must have put a lot of effort into typing all that. I appreciate it, really. But I'd rather have a TL;DR version of it.

Tell you what, you caught me in a good mood. I'll read it.
...
Well, the door thing confused the crap out of me, I...don't know what to say about that? You have to speak to my level, the level of an incompetent moron. If you dumb it down, I might understand

A good game does not have to have good graphics, sound or writing. You can make a game with a primitive/retro style of graphics and it will still be a great game. Better than most games with modern graphics. The only thing that is always necessary for making a game - is coding it to work properly, balance, lack of bugs, compatibility and whatever it takes to be pleasant to experience. Everything else only needs to subjectively fit the style.

This thing. A game with primitive/retro style level of graphics is still part of the game making process, no mater how small it is. Modern or not, if it is not a text adventure, it needs to be a part of the procedure.

TL;DR: Be my friend. I disagree with that one long post.

 

[edgartheslayer]

Maybe I want to argue. Maybe, I don't. Maybe I'm bi-polar and can't decide. Maybe I'm a Bi bi-polar polar bear.

Whatever you are, you're definitely weird XD

Well, the door thing confused the crap out of me, I...don't know what to say about that? You have to speak to my level, the level of an incompetent moron. If you dumb it down, I might understand

Ok. There are 2 groups. Group "A" has farms, grows weed and sells it to Group B. Group B distributes weed by selling to everyone. A's profit has correlation with B's profit. Why? The more B sells weed(big demand), the more they buy from A, so group A decides to grows more weed and this makes them both either rich... Or poor if nobody does drugs.

However, there is no correlation between A's "process of growing weed" and B's "process of selling it to you and your mom." Why? Because you buying it- isn't going to help A do a better job at growing weed. Growing weed correctly depends on A's botanist skills.
I don't remember what I was going for originally when you didn't read my old post but maybe this helps you understand, that context is important when determining correlation.

This thing. A game with primitive/retro style level of graphics is still part of the game making process, no mater how small it is. Modern or not, if it is not a text adventure, it needs to be a part of the procedure.

So what? Your original statement was that there's correlation between making games and being a good artist. Just because a game has graphics, does not mean there's correlation.
Yes, it is a part of it, but they are absolutely different things and don't rely on each other in any way, shape or form. You can make a game with great sound, writing and gameplay, but the graphics can still be the most ugly, outdated fiery dumpster of shit. Or vice versa a game can look amazing and realistic, but also boring, buggy and overall bad. There is no correlation between making games and being a good graphical artist.

This is why many people often say they don't care about graphics, as long as the gameplay is good. Graphics can be good, bad intentionally or not, and make no difference either way to the rest of the game making process, or the player playing it.

 

[ViviX12]

sooo any discussion about the game anytime soon?

 

[ThatWeirdGuyWithaWeirdHat]

sooo any discussion about the game anytime soon?

When there is actual news to discuss, yes

 

[DoorFive]

Ok. There are 2 groups. Group "A" has farms, grows weed and sells it to Group B. Group B distributes weed by selling to everyone. A's profit has correlation with B's profit. Why? The more B sells weed(big demand), the more they buy from A, so group A decides to grows more weed and this makes them both either rich... Or poor if nobody does drugs.

However, there is no correlation between A's "process of growing weed" and B's "process of selling it to you and your mom." Why? Because you buying it- isn't going to help A do a better job at growing weed. Growing weed correctly depends on A's botanist skills.
I don't remember what I was going for originally when you didn't read my old post but maybe this helps you understand, that context is important when determining correlation.

Okay, I see I see. The game making business is not really cut up in a way that they'd be separate entities. It would more closely resemble a cartoon TV show, people drawing (for the sake of it let's keep it 2D drawings) characters, backgrounds, foregrounds, those things. Then you do have another department that handles sound. Yes, those could be separate entities, the art and sound departments, much like group A producing stock, and group B selling. But they must work close together to work. It's hard to do one without the other. The Loony Toons are quite famous, being in the "golden age of cartoons," but if you look closely, the sound effects and music needed to work with the animations, and animations versa needed to work with the sound and music. The Bugs Bunny opera moments are a key aspect of this, art, music, sounds, it's all a part of the process to create a masterpiece.

So what? Your original statement was that there's correlation between making games and being a good artist. Just because a game has graphics, does not mean there's correlation.
Yes, it is a part of it, but they are absolutely different things and don't rely on each other in any way, shape or form. You can make a game with great sound, writing and gameplay, but the graphics can still be the most ugly, outdated fiery dumpster of shit. Or vice versa a game can look amazing and realistic, but also boring, buggy and overall bad. There is no correlation between making games and being a good graphical artist.

This is why many people often say they don't care about graphics, as long as the gameplay is good. Graphics can be good, bad intentionally or not, and make no difference either way to the rest of the game making process, or the player playing it.

Nooooo. No. That was never my sentiment. I think somewhere this got lost in translation. The main thing was graphics, sound, and coding all need to take place if your making a game. One needs to consider if a character is say...walking. The character needs to be programed to move a certain direction when pressing an arrow key. Then, an animation needs to be attached to this code. Sound must also be attached to this walking for the sake of ambience. It's all a part of the process to create a game.

Otherwise, I do agree with you about looks not mattering. Just that those looks which mattered not was prepared as a process of game creation. I think the base line is we misunderstood each other.

 

[DoorFive]

When there is actual news to discuss, yes

While not quite news, there are a few new gifs. I'll even throw in some stills. I'm pretty sure he was just screwing around with these.

-Featuring more hip sway!

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" She coming for that booty"

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"The shortstacktsuko form. Grants increased defense and stamina at the cost of speed and jump height. Allows chibitsuko to take even the biggest of monster cocks with the greatest of ease, and even wanting more afterwards! The increase of mana tanks makes it vulnerable to milking attacks tho."

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[Lerial]

Someone got in the mood to argue. Well, I'm not gonna give you what you want. Find it somewhere else.
Bringing shit up that's already past...ffs
If you want to fight an injustice, go ahead, be my guest. In case you didn't know, this is the INTERNET. GASP! Someone was called bold and condescending!
For real? Is that riling you up so much? You are aware people will say what's on their minds, right?
It's a forum where opinions will be far flung. Get over it.

Edit: Look, I was harsh, sure. and I apologize for that. But you are calling the kettle black. You say people will express themselves.

but it's not fine for me to express myself? Look, Again, I'm sorry for what I said.

i'm just bored as shit, dude like the other dude said, no need to apologize.
i just disagreed with the euphemism you used. and i'm a wordy fuck at times.

and that 'people will express themselves' was partly for you, sure. but i was also just kinda being a pedantic asshole.
i'd say i get off on it, except this forum's for porn games.

sooo any discussion about the game anytime soon?

no, dude takes his sweet fucking time making this game.
which is partially what i thought that whole argument was about, but eh, not even my argument.

 

[ArcanEWolf]

So its just slimes and doggos?

 

[DoorFive]

So its just slimes and doggos?

Golems and Mermaids too! But yeah, that is a small list.

"Splish splash Imma takki'n a bath"

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"Well, the whole water thingy is done. Both swimming on the surface and going under with the skill works, added a sound effect for the splash and all, just a couple animation glitches, but functionally is done. I can now have some obstacles with water because when you don't have the skill for underwater, you jump out of the water less."

"Ok guys... This is it, I've been procrastinating it too much, time to start making the save/load system."

"Saving/loading progression is coming along nicely. I'm still learning the how's and what's, but is coming together. Made a little scene to test, just to see how it behaves, which I should have done ages ago, I was so intimidated because I couldn't make heads or tails of it that it made procrastinate this much."

Finally progress!

 

[TheOtherDragonborn]

Any news on a new discord after the old one got hacked?

 

[DoorFive]

Any news on a new discord after the old one got hacked?

It's been pretty silent.

 

[TheOtherDragonborn]

It's been pretty silent.

Yeah, my assumption is that he will probably wait a bit before creating a new one so that the hacker involved loses interest.

 

[Adam_Lynd]

I just discovered SpacEscape and beat it a couple weeks ago. I was surprised by how fun it was. I'm excited to see what the remake of it will be like.

 

[DoorFive]

Interesting footage of the game:

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There is a new discord server. the link is in the blog, on the right where the tabs are, it's been updated since the collapse.

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[RossoX]

Let's hope it doesn't get hacked again.

 

[Lurkin23]

That first animation... love it already.

 

[BustyBraixen]

does anybody know how to get the heart and ability upgrade in the water level? the rooms they're in are completely boxed off. no passable floors or hidden passages that ive found so far.