VN Ren'Py Special Request: In the Web of Corruption [v2.4] [Nemiegs]

[Zara Scarlet]

being timid is not something that can change!

BC she is ocused in solving her problems ... and as i said her problems ARE NOT SEX RELATED!

She is not inhibited... she is worry about hide her husband what she is forced to do against her will!

if you are not able to understand that this is realistic... you are just said nonsense

All the women I know in the real world oncluding my wife are always reluctant to have sex... and there are man that are unable to make aroused all girl
even the most uninhibited girl will not come to fuck if the man is not able to turn her on using the right words...believe me my first girlfriend fucked a lot of men and I know because we had an open relationship...but after having sex there are always moments of regret and doubt about what we did...

The fact that Laura is experimenting with drugs to increase libido does not mean that she becomes a mindless BIMBO.
She is herself... and her timid personality make the sex scenes very very exciting

She is not timid when she fucks with men

SHE IS SUBMISSIVE! High points of Pride are useless
I'm in the submissive path
she loves to have sex with multiple men at same time but she don't want that her husband look at her
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In this scene she will be fucked in all holes but still She is only worried about Oliver that is present with the audiance of the club

LOL
this is a total nonsense

She is super excited every day,,, and the dev is the one that is writing this story...
why you complain?

I know that i'm right ... thanks ... there are no buts!

Se is reticent because it is normal in the real life to bereticent about our private sexlife preferences... it is realistic!
But she admits this to herself
here you are contradicting yourself ... first you said she admits the pleasure of sex to herself and now you say the opposite? you should agree with what you write ... but already we all know you write things without any logic


This is the masterpiece... because
In life there are different days ... and after fucking with many in an orgy there are always second thoughts--- I know this from personal experience and I know what my first girlfriend thinks after orgies

if you want to continue repeating the same nonsense go ahead ... I will continue to tell you that it is nonsense that has nothing realistic

Until this version she is with Oliver... so she is trying to hide him her real life... but as soon in the next update there will be a lot of more surprise about this point

You say a lot of things are nonsense on a regular basis Stanford, but I rarely see anyone agreeing with you. I'm not planning to get into another long winded debate with you, where you make more inflated, rambling posts to put across your point of view. I've said what I want to say on this matter, and that's good enough for me. Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, I just don't agree with it.

 

[88stanford88]

You say a lot of things are nonsense on a regular basis Stanford, but I rarely see anyone agreeing with you. I'm not planning to get into another long winded debate with you, where you make more inflated,

you keep contradicting yourself if you don't want to have a long debate why do you keep quoting me? you know bane I will never ignore you...because I love lesbian girls
so if you continue to quote me.. i receive your notification!

rambling posts to put across your point of view. I've said what I want to say on this matter, and that's good enough for me. Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, I just don't agree with it.

I'm talking about the game in all my posts... you contradict yourself for example .. here you didn't want to debate with me you are talking about me instead of the game LOL
thanks for allowing me to have my opinions by writing true things

I love your official permission!

but your opinion about me are wrong... you are free to write about the game!

 

[wildride69]

The fun with a corruption VN is the corruption. Take Anna Exciting Adventure the story started off strong and was heavy on corruption, Anna had her wins and losses but she kept fighting for the first couple of chapters. Now it is nothing more than a glorified slut simulator and it is boring as all hell.

It seems like we have a bunch of captain save a ho's here that are longing to see Laura go down the same path. Laura should have some wins and some losses. There is a ton of more content that could be explored with the mafia, the pornographers, the pimps. the church etc. how one woman can over come all of those corrupting forces so quickly makes zero sense.

The dev can do what he likes with the story as it is his story to tell but catering to the captain-save-a-ho crowd isn't the right move in my opinion.

 

[Pdr602]

The fun with a corruption VN is the corruption. Take Anna Exciting Adventure the story started off strong and was heavy on corruption, Anna had her wins and losses but she kept fighting for the first couple of chapters. Now it is nothing more than a glorified slut simulator and it is boring as all hell.

It seems like we have a bunch of captain save a ho's here that are longing to see Laura go down the same path. Laura should have some wins and some losses. There is a ton of more content that could be explored with the mafia, the pornographers, the pimps. the church etc. how one woman can over come all of those corrupting forces so quickly makes zero sense.

The dev can do what he likes with the story as it is his story to tell but catering to the captain-save-a-ho crowd isn't the right move in my opinion.

100% agree. I stopped playing for that reason. Got boring.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

The fun with a corruption VN is the corruption. Take Anna Exciting Adventure the story started off strong and was heavy on corruption, Anna had her wins and losses but she kept fighting for the first couple of chapters. Now it is nothing more than a glorified slut simulator and it is boring as all hell.

It seems like we have a bunch of captain save a ho's here that are longing to see Laura go down the same path. Laura should have some wins and some losses. There is a ton of more content that could be explored with the mafia, the pornographers, the pimps. the church etc. how one woman can over come all of those corrupting forces so quickly makes zero sense.

The dev can do what he likes with the story as it is his story to tell but catering to the captain-save-a-ho crowd isn't the right move in my opinion.

I don't understand why she would respond the way that she does. We had a gangbang where she was basically gagging for it, and acting like a complete whore, and in the very next scene she goes back to hating it all and being in complete denial. If she loved it during the gangbang, why would she not love it later? The problem is there's no consistency. You can't have her behave like a total whore in one scene, and then row it right back in the next, bemoaning all the bad things that she's already willingly allowed to happen to her. That's what makes zero sense.

Even if she just admitted it to herself, and continued denying it to the people who are trying to take advantage of her. That would be better, because at least she'd be being honest with herself. Because the only reason she'd be having sex with some of these people who are not forcing her, is because she wants to do it. But instead we get a continuous dishonest inner dialogue, where she wonders why she did it. She's supposedly an intelligent woman, who often acts really dumb. Because it's not that difficult to work out.

The whole point of a corruption game, is that eventually someone gets corrupted. If you don't show that, then it's pointless. And just because someone starts behaving as a slut, doesn't mean they can't be corrupted anymore. I assume you have a certain threshold, beyond which you don't want the protagonist to be corrupted anymore. But not all of us concur with that. And what may be boring to you, is not necessarily the same for everyone else. Laura has already been corrupted, because she's doing some sexual stuff with people that she doesn't have to do. She's actively cheating on her husband, outside the blackmail scenario, that makes up the main part of the game. And the fact that she can do that at all, proves that she's already been corrupted quite a bit. It just seems the Dev seems reluctant to have Laura acknowledge it herself. If she's been corrupted and is willingly cheating on Oliver, why would she not acknowledge it and continue torturing herself, when she's obviously getting pleasure from it?

As I've said before, I do like this game, quite a bit. There are some really good sex scenes, and it ticks a lot of boxes for me. I just wish the Dev would allow Laura to be more honest, and more consistent in her responses to what's happening to her. Because it's really frustrating, when she continues to act bemused by everything that's happening to her, as if it already hasn't happened dozens of times before. By now, she should be under no illusions about what is going to happen, everytime she does something connected with BBs company. So why does the Dev still have her stupidly asking, 'Why is this happening to me?', when it's perfectly clear she already knows?

 

[wildride69]

I don't understand why she would respond the way that she does. We had a gangbang where she was basically gagging for it, and acting like a complete whore, and in the very next scene she goes back to hating it all and being in complete denial. If she loved it during the gangbang, why would she not love it later? The problem is there's no consistency. You can't have her behave like a total whore in one scene, and then row it right back in the next, bemoaning all the bad things that she's already willingly allowed to happen to her. That's what makes zero sense.

Even if she just admitted it to herself, and continued denying it to the people who are trying to take advantage of her. That would be better, because at least she'd be being honest with herself. Because the only reason she'd be having sex with some of these people who are not forcing her, is because she wants to do it. But instead we get a continuous dishonest inner dialogue, where she wonders why she did it. She's supposedly an intelligent woman, who often acts really dumb. Because it's not that difficult to work out.

The whole point of a corruption game, is that eventually someone gets corrupted. If you don't show that, then it's pointless. And Laura has been corrupted, because she's doing some sexual stuff with people that she doesn't have to do. She's actively cheating on her husband, outside the blackmail scenario, that makes up the main part of the game. And the fact that she can do that at all, proves that she's already been corrupted quite a bit. It just seems the Dev seems reluctant to have Laura acknowledge it herself. If she's been corrupted and is willingly cheating on Oliver, why would she not acknowledge it and continue torturing herself, when she's obviously getting pleasure from it?

As I've said before, I do like this game, quite a bit. There are some really good sex scenes, and it ticks a lot of boxes for me. I just wish the Dev would allow Laura to be more honest, and more consistent in her responses to what's happening to her. Because it's really frustrating, when she continues to act bemused by everything that's happening to her, as if it already hasn't happened dozens of times before. By now, she should be under no illusions about what is going to happen, everytime she does something connected with BBs company. So why does the Dev still have her stupidly asking, 'Why is this happening to me?', when it's perfectly clear she already knows?

Zara in my younger days I used to bounce at a few different strip clubs. The dancers would come in and some times be overjoyed to really work the pole and make that money, and some days they would really have a great time.

Other days these same dancers would come in sad and miserable an upset that they had to work at a strip club for a living.

There is no zero sum stability, some days you can deal with what life hands you and some days you can't but you keep going forward getting some wins and getting some losses. So if Laura has to deal with a gangbang there will be days where she would give in and enjoy the sex as best she can and other days she may cry herself silly. The Inconsistency mirrors real life better than you may think.

 

[88stanford88]

It seems like we have a bunch of captain save a ho's here that are longing to see Laura go down the same path. Laura should have some wins and some losses. There is a ton of more content that could be explored with the mafia, the pornographers, the pimps. the church etc. how one woman can over come all of those corrupting forces so quickly makes zero sense.

The story in this game is completelly different from Anna exciting Adventure... BC Anna is young girl without work!

Laura is a respectable manager with a lot of interest and she is also in a charity fundation.
So this game will never be similar

this story is based on blackmail and her corruption is voluntary and she is following the plan that Jannette sugessted to her


indeed she is maybe not able to over come those corruption forces so quick but she is investigating about her family...
or better
or rather first she tried to hire an investigator recommended by Jannette ...
the first investigator suggested by Jannett asks her to do blood tests so he can get evidence ...
but both the first investigator and the lab that analyzed Laura's blood are murdered and the lab is set on fire by someone (maybe Big Boss) ...
this makes Laura realize that she has to voluntarily submit to the blackmails and move very cautiously.... it is clear that she is not corrupt and that she submits to blackmail to get evidence

the fact that as you say there are many forces that seem to be plotting against her makes it possible that one of these forces is actually helping and protecting her...
some other forces may want her dead...

and what is better?

Being a dead Laura or being a whore Laura?

Recently she was able to find Ivar who seems to be a powerful antagonist of BB and perhaps wants to help her...he gave her a suitcase full of money and as planned she returned the money to BB... Money that should be used to free Laura from BB's power...but we will see this in the futiri episodes

I repeat this is not a story about an innocent girl who gets corrupted and starts screwing everyone for no reason like are a lot of games you mentioned

Laura is only under blackmail by one of these powerful forces but her mind is clear and focused on getting rid of those who are blackmailing her...then whether in the finale she decides to continue being a whore or not is only her business

in this story the sex scenes are necessary first because it is an adult porn game...and all the scenes are motivated by the desire of the beautiful female protagonist to come out on top!!

I am sure

She will be able to overcome all those who are humiliating her and become herself again
she will probably lose her husband?--

Who cares...I'll marry her

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Zara in my younger days I used to bounce at a few different strip clubs. The dancers would come in and some times be overjoyed to really work the pole and make that money, and some days they would really have a great time.

Other days these same dancers would come in sad and miserable an upset that they had to work at a strip club for a living.

There is no zero sum stability, some days you can deal with what life hands you and some days you can't but you keep going forward getting some wins and getting some losses. So if Laura has to deal with a gangbang there will be days where she would give in and enjoy the sex as best she can and other days she may cry herself silly. The Inconsistency mirrors real life better than you may think.

Trust me, I know all about Strippers, I lived with one for 12 years. But I don't think that's a good analogy for our Laura. Whereas, most of them are doing it mainly for the money. Laura is gradually being corrupted, and increasingly it's for the pleasure. Because that's what these games are about. Laura is supposed to become a slut and love it. What you're referring to is real life, whereas this is fantasy. Do we really want her to be miserable all the time? No, we want to corrupt her and for her to start fucking loving it.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

The story in this game is completelly different from Anna exciting Adventure... BC Anna is young girl without work!

Laura is a respectable manager with a lot of interest and she is also in a charity fundation.
So this game will never be similar
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this story is based on blackmail and her corruption is voluntary and she is following the plan that Jannette sugessted to her
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indeed she is maybe not able to over come those corruption forces so quick but she is investigating about her family...
or better
or rather first she tried to hire an investigator recommended by Jannette ...
the first investigator suggested by Jannett asks her to do blood tests so he can get evidence ...
but both the first investigator and the lab that analyzed Laura's blood are murdered and the lab is set on fire by someone (maybe Big Boss) ...
this makes Laura realize that she has to voluntarily submit to the blackmails and move very cautiously.... it is clear that she is not corrupt and that she submits to blackmailto get evidence

the fact that as you say there are many forces that seem to be plotting against her makes it possible that one of these forces is actually helping and protecting her...
some other forces may want her dead...and what is better---being dead or being a whore?.

and what is better?

Being a dead Laura or being a whore Laura?

Recently she was able to find Ivar who seems to be a powerful antagonist of BB and perhaps wants to help her...he gave her a suitcase full of money and as planned she returned the money to BB... Money that should be used to free Laura from BB's power...but we will see this in the futiri episodes

I repeat this is not a story about an innoccent girl who gets corrupted and starts screwing everyone for no reason cine are a lot of games you mentioned

Laura is only under blackmail by one of these powerful forces but her mind is clear and focused on getting rid of those who are blackmailing her...then whether in the finale she decides to continue being a whore or not is only her business

in this story the sex scenes are necessary first because it is an adult porn game...and all the scenes are motivated by the desire of the beautiful female protagonist to come out on top!!

I am sure

She will be able to overcome all those who are humiliating her and become herself again
she will probably lose her husband?--

Who cares...I'll marry her

Man, Ollie’s been out of the picture since he called her fat
The only thing Laura likes that’s fat is a fat dick

 

[88stanford88]

don't understand why she would respond the way that she does

really

you arenot able to understand nothing so I'm not surprised at all

she was basically gagging for it, and acting like a complete whore,

She is acting like a whore in some scene bc this is her only possible choice... but inside her thoughts she is focused on her freedom
She wants to win the life she had before
but she may find out that her husband is not who she thought he was--and maybe laura's father is not so clear either

Zara to avoid useless debate about the fact that as you said... you are not able to understand why Laura acts this way

SHE IS BLACKMAILED and she does not have any choice... but something new happend in the recent updates

SHE HAVE THE MONEY

THAT MONEY WAS NOT MADE WITH HER JOB AS WHORE!



BBUUTTT this great story is not near to the end... BC we have to know about her husband and her father... and maybe Janette
we have to know about the pat of Laura when she was Elizabeth!... bc IVAR said that aslo her documents does not exisist before the college


Who is Elizabeth???? SHE IS ELIZABETH AS YOU CAN SEE!


Laura father is a KILLER!!



So now Laura despite the new things she has discovered continues to be under blackmail and BB knows Ivar
this fact adds new trilling and...
Is Ivar really a friend of Laura?..
Now that BB has told her that the only thing that is protecting her is the fact that she continues to work at PAM...

in the coming episodes we will figure out ever will take more time and Laura will have to be very careful to figure out who, among the evil forces operating in the city, is the real force that wants to protect her!

PS: Curuption points are not related with the story.. they are used to skip or not some sex scenes
but sex is not important

She Must be a whore because she is blackmailed,,, if she refuses to submit to the "SPECIAL REQUESTS".... her husband ... her father... Janette or the orphans can be killed!

this is the only reason Laura accepted to be a whore!
But she is able to get pleasure during any kind of extreme sex!... AND THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT SHE IS AN EVERY DAY TOTAL WHORE!

 

[88stanford88]

Man, Ollie’s been out of the picture since he called her fat
The only thing Laura likes that’s fat is a fat dick

you are not funny and wrong!.. your post is senseless!

this is the only reason Laura accepted to be a whore is protect her friends and relatives

 

[88stanford88]

Trust me, I know all about Strippers, I lived with one for 12 years.

Always senseless posts from you
but you don'y know nothing about the city of this game!

 

[wildride69]

Trust me, I know all about Strippers, I lived with one for 12 years. But I don't think that's a good analogy for our Laura. Whereas, most of them are doing it mainly for the money. Laura is gradually being corrupted, and increasingly it's for the pleasure. Because that's what these games are about. Laura is supposed to become a slut and love it. What you're referring to is real life, whereas this is fantasy. Do we really want her to be miserable all the time? No, we want to corrupt her and for her to start fucking loving it.

"Laura is supposed to become a slut and love it" is definitely one way the story could end. A sexual awakening that could eventually make her a stronger person is another. These are a couple of choices for ENDINGS, I feel it is better to deal with what she is facing now, in the story and we should be far far away from deciding on a possible ending.

You seem to be of the opinion she's dealt with enough and it's time to move on (my take I could be wrong). My take is she is just getting started dealing with all the possible people who can corrupt and blackmail her into doing things she does not want to do, to protect herself and the people around her she loves.

This is kind of why I hate to much user feedback, Your take on Laura, My take on Laura and lord knows Stanford's take on Laura are all wildly different, I only chime in when it seems the dev may be listening and about to make changes in the story they set out to tell. I prefer completely surprise to what the author of the tale wants to give us then him changing what he wanted to do to keep fans happy. Usually you end up pissing off one group or fans or another and nobody including the dev really leaves satisfied.

I would never read a Stephen King rough draft and then start telling him what I think should happen next, I like the surprise I wasn't expecting over him giving me exactly what I want (unless they did it really fucking well ).

 

[Nemiegs]

Thank you for the engaging discussion; I've read your insights keenly. I acknowledge the feedback that Laura could have been less reluctant in certain scenarios, and I’ll consider this moving forward. However, I’d like to share my perspective and the underlying concept of the character development I aim to portray.

My experiences in life have shown me that personal growth isn’t linear and doesn’t occur overnight. Significant changes often bring about profound internal conflicts that can be overwhelming. So far, the game spans just a month of Laura's life—a relatively short period for her to completely transform and lose herself. This journey isn't solely about her sexual experiences; it also deeply involves her grappling with the stress of blackmail, entanglement in a mafia network, and concerns for the safety of her loved ones. These significant challenges currently define her life.

Can Laura genuinely enjoy moments of intimacy, or even a simple beer by the pool, without her mind reverting to these stressors? While her body might be in one place, her mind—and the stress it carries—might not allow her to fully relish these moments. In the game, there are beach scenes where Laura appears more relaxed and others where she acknowledges the allure of her physique. Conversely, there are also moments where, despite previous experiences, she feels awkward and reluctant. I aim to illustrate her internal battle.

With over three weeks remaining in the game, I am cautious about reducing Laura to a clichéd whore character. Her evolution will be gradual, marked by highs and lows, as she discovers and embraces aspects of herself in a manner many of you hope to see. This transformation will unfold gradually, ensuring a more realistic and impactful character development by the game’s end.

 

[88stanford88]

and lord knows Stanford's take on Laura are all wildly different

I really know that your endings are wrong... and
maybe BB is the only one that want protect Laura as person...
but until we know what happened before ... her husband has false documents
his father ga false documents
Laura has fake documents that someone created for a reason ...

Sex are just side events that have little to do with the plot of this complicated and well-written story by the author

Sex is only to satisfy our perverse entertainment

 

[Kroelle Cook]

"Laura is supposed to become a slut and love it" is definitely one way the story could end. A sexual awakening that could eventually make her a stronger person is another. These are a couple of choices for ENDINGS, I feel it is better to deal with what she is facing now, in the story and we should be far far away from deciding on a possible ending.

You seem to be of the opinion she's dealt with enough and it's time to move on (my take I could be wrong). My take is she is just getting started dealing with all the possible people who can corrupt and blackmail her into doing things she does not want to do, to protect herself and the people around her she loves.

This is kind of why I hate to much user feedback, Your take on Laura, My take on Laura and lord knows Stanford's take on Laura are all wildly different, I only chime in when it seems the dev may be listening and about to make changes in the story they set out to tell. I prefer completely surprise to what the author of the tale wants to give us then him changing what he wanted to do to keep fans happy. Usually you end up pissing off one group or fans or another and nobody including the dev really leaves satisfied.

I would never read a Stephen King rough draft and then start telling him what I think should happen next, I like the surprise I wasn't expecting over him giving me exactly what I want (unless they did it really fucking well ).

I find it very difficult to disagree with anything you say here!
And I do think it's a shame we can't talk about this in a better way. It should be no different from talking about a good movie you just watched or book you read with your friends, but it seems this is a very touchy subject

 

[88stanford88]

With over three weeks remaining in the game, I am cautious about reducing Laura to a clichéd whore character. Her evolution will be gradual, marked by highs and lows, as she discovers and embraces aspects of herself in a manner many of you hope to see. This transformation will unfold gradually, ensuring a more realistic and impactful character development by the game’s end.

only 3 weeks to the end?
but this end will just be the SEASON 1 END ...I really hope so!
bc there are a lot of questions abour Elizabeth

Maybe you can add some flashback? flashbakcs doesn't count as weeks... you can add 2 months of flashbacks in the future 3 weeks LOL

Can Laura genuinely enjoy moments of intimacy, or even a simple beer by the pool, without her mind reverting to these stressors? While her body might be in one place, her mind—and the stress it carries—might not allow her to fully relish these moments. In the game, there are beach scenes where Laura appears more relaxed and others where she acknowledges the allure of her physique. Conversely, there are also moments where, despite previous experiences, she feels awkward and reluctant. I aim to illustrate her internal battle.

that is very clear clear to me...
thanks for confirming some of my thoughts about her

My experiences in life have shown me that personal growth isn’t linear and doesn’t occur overnight. Significant changes often bring about profound internal conflicts that can be overwhelming. So far, the game spans just a month of Laura's life—a relatively short period for her to completely transform and lose herself. This journey isn't solely about her sexual experiences; it also deeply involves her grappling with the stress of blackmail, entanglement in a mafia network, and concerns for the safety of her loved ones. These significant challenges currently define her life.

she is blackmailed... and I personally partecipate in orgies with drug... I can confirm... the day after is a pain and i regret that... but when the arousal call you... Sex may be the only relief.. so i particite again in orgies

Thank you for the engaging discussion; I've read your insights keenly. I acknowledge the feedback that Laura could have been less reluctant in certain scenarios, and I’ll consider this moving forward. However, I’d like to share my perspective and the underlying concept of the character development I aim to portray.

Thank you for your masterpiece work... I really hope for the season 2

 

[wildride69]

I find it very difficult to disagree with anything you say here!
But I do think it's a shame we can't talk about this in a better way. It should be no different from talking about a good movie you just watched or book you read with your friends, but it seems this is a very touchy subject

Well on the positive side, you have created a VN that in all our posts, show we really love it. It shows that we are all absorbed in Laura's story and the tale you set out to tell. My favorite story on here is Luna's Fall from Grace, the story, the twists the multiple paths and endings are amazing in my opinion. This story is in my top 4 favorites on F95. My hope is these posts and opinions spark your imagination as to what you want to happen to Laura and not so much who is right or wrong in our debate. I can't wait to see what happens next.

 

[Kroelle Cook]

Well on the positive side, you have created a VN that in all our posts, show we really love it. It shows that we are all absorbed in Laura's story and the tale you set out to tell. My favorite story on here is Luna's Fall from Grace, the story, the twists the multiple paths and endings are amazing in my opinion. This story is in my top 4 favorites on F95. My hope is these posts and opinions spark your imagination as to what you want to happen to Laura and not so much who is right or wrong in our debate. I can't wait to see what happens next.

Ooops I'm not the Dev - Nemiegs is!
But again I completely agree

 

[doccop63]

Zara in my younger days I used to bounce at a few different strip clubs. The dancers would come in and some times be overjoyed to really work the pole and make that money, and some days they would really have a great time.

Other days these same dancers would come in sad and miserable an upset that they had to work at a strip club for a living.

There is no zero sum stability, some days you can deal with what life hands you and some days you can't but you keep going forward getting some wins and getting some losses. So if Laura has to deal with a gangbang there will be days where she would give in and enjoy the sex as best she can and other days she may cry herself silly. The Inconsistency mirrors real life better than you may think.

I get your point but that's what my original comment was about that started this shit storm. Right now, Laura hasn't had what you would call, a "good day." My point was, it would be nice to see her get a glimmer of hope in her predicament. It just seems to me that, given 5 game weeks, she really doesn't have a reason to keep fighting, other than hoping that Oliver doesn't find out about her debasement. That was my only point behind this whole firestorm.