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Z_z_Z

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Y'do realize that Cynthia is one of their oldest games ever and one of the ones that started the trend of cum collecting RPGs, right?

It also flopped because the publisher that localized it released a terribly buggy mess, during the winter holidays, and then didn't fix it for a long time, because of aforementioned holidays, which was obviously a disaster.

As for this game... I can honestly say, as someone who's tried every single one of Acerola's games that have been translated (and a number that haven't been), that Monica's game is the most innovative at its time for their NTR games series. It was the first time they actually allowed one of these games to have the "debt" be beaten without the girl slutting up at all on the first playthrough. In all their previous NTR games, it was mathematically impossible, unless you cheated. Also the first time they added even a sliver of real gameplay via the adventuring stuff.

There's a number of things, and they might not seem big... but there's a reason why Monica was, at the time, their best selling game of the NTR games by a WIDE margin.

Acerola might not rock the boat much, but they do try things out in various ways, to varying degrees of success. Sadly, whenever they DO rock the boat a lot, like with the Tear game or the Thief game, their sales tend to drop, so no one can blame them for not trying much when their fans don't want them too.
Fam I said I agree with both sides. I said that understand the guy wishing we got something different from Acerola. In fact, I partially disagree with your statement. Tear and Phantom Thief sold very well. Also I don't really see the point of bringing up Sex Knight Cynthia's release date considering that Demon Queen Melissa came out half a year later and is still a top 3 best seller from them. But I do agree that without Cynthia, Treasure Hunter Claire and Alchemist Colette most likely don't come to be.

As for the rest of your comment, we're on the same team her pal. I think Monica is easily their best title to date. There's a reason that it's their only game to have DLC as well as animated extra content. It's why a lot of us are disappointed that the patch messed up the voices, especially as Kagura seems to operate on a schedule us mere mortals could never hope to comprehend.

Acerola is easily upper echelon for H games, no one is arguing that. We can also admit that things seem a bit repetitive.
Two things can be true.
 
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easy85

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Oh... i guess i'm gonna skip this one.
The only reason why i was ok with acerola's NTR was the fact that i could skip 99% of everything involving the cuck.
You can skip everything. In fact, you probably won't see any of it by playing normally. It's fairy hard to get discovery meter to 100% on your first run with no money to buy consumables.
There's just more of it for people who want to see it.
 
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Iexist

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Fam I said I agree with both sides. I said that understand the guy wishing we got something different from Acerola. In fact, I partially disagree with your statement. Tear and Phantom Thief sold very well. Also I don't really see the point of bringing up Sex Knight Cynthia's release date considering that Demon Queen Melissa came out half a year later and is still a top 3 best seller from them. But I do agree that without Cynthia, Treasure Hunter Claire and Alchemist Colette most likely don't come to be.

As for the rest of your comment, we're on the same team her pal. I think Monica is easily their best title to date. There's a reason that it's their only game to have DLC as well as animated extra content. It's why a lot of us are disappointed that the patch messed up the voices, especially as Kagura seems to operate on a schedule us mere mortals could never hope to comprehend.

Acerola is easily upper echelon for H games, no one is arguing that. We can also admit that things seem a bit repetitive.
Two things can be true.
Sorry, the second part of the comment was meant more in the general sense for the thread rather than a direct reply to you.

That said, the release dates of these games do matter... and the sales that matter the most are the ones on dlsite and Fanza (where applicable for the latter). This is because by the time any of these games are localized, the development of the next game(s) is already in the works if not already complete. I doubt that the Steam Sales have much of an impact on Acerola's design decisions beyond the fact that it encourages them to keep localizing games as a worthwhile investment... and that's assuming that the sales number are indeed good there between Steam, GoG and Kagura's site... I have no idea. Hard to check. I also don't know how much of a cut Kagura takes from the sales, and thus how profitable localization actually is for Acerola.

The fact that Kagura hasn't said anything about any of the other games that came after this one is... concerning... Though to be fair, I don't expect to ever see anything about the Vulvadia game because that was a complete clusterfuck...

Getting back to THIS game and the cluster-fuck that is the AI patch... I have a question.

Did anyone confirm if the patch is even MEANT to work with the Append? Did anyone try the patch on the base-game version that does NOT have the Append installed?

Because I'm starting to suspect that the AI patch is not meant to work with the Append, and that having the Append installed breaks shit in general. I'm obviously hoping that I'm wrong about this one... but if I'm right... Wooo boy that's even more concerning.
 

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that does NOT have the Append installed?

Because I'm starting to suspect that the AI patch is not meant to work with the Append, and that having the Append installed breaks shit in general. I'm obviously hoping that I'm wrong about this one... but if I'm right... Wooo boy that's even more concerning.
list of bugs

1- dont have voice in the scenes

2-the dlc dont work with the english patch

3-the gallery dont save properly the scenes and you need to unlock all with the bear in your room after finish the game( the gallery dont have voice either)

4- the texts go off the screen sometimes

?- I have also read that the Chinese and Korean versions work well according to a user and there are no errors
 
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fafit

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list of bugs

1- dont have voice in the scenes

2-the dlc dont work with the english patch

3-the gallery dont save properly the scenes and you need to unlock all with the bear in your room after finish the game( the gallery dont have voice either)

4- the texts go off the screen sometimes

?- I have also read that the Chinese and Korean versions work well according to a user and there are no errors
You also forgot a good chunk of scenes are not even translated, at least all MonicaxMilli and MonicaxSophie are in japanese.
And overall translation is googletranslate-tier, not even GPT3


Is there combat sex? If so can MC get pregnant from it?
Depends on what do you mean by combat sex. There is a normal RPG battle system, but enemies sometime grab you, and you have to do QTE to escape or they will rape you.
And yeah, I think you can get pregnant from it.
 
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Riva

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Why no voice at H-scene ??
Or the game really doesn't have voicepack at scene ??
 

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Why no voice at H-scene ??
Or the game really doesn't have voicepack at scene ??
because the English patch breaks many things, it doesn't make the game unplayable but it is not a good experience as it is currently, so is a waste of time and I hope I am wrong but the chances of them fixing the game are very low.
 
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So they are going to sell it separately as a DLC? Will they fix the voices too?
It is not known but it seems that it was not an error as I believed, it is that the patch is not made to work with the dlc that is why the dlc scenes in the gallery are not translated, now that does not take away the voice thing since for example the DLC scenes come without voices because they were added later, we had the base game with voice and the DLC only with moaning sounds until we can test the new patch we will not know what really is there

My doubt is why they release a game with the DLC and they offer you a patch only for the base game or the patch is not made to work with the dlc and since this version is with dlc there are incompatibilities. Has anyone tried simply the latest version of the base game without the DLC, maybe there won't be any problems there
 
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huvvaligen

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Any cheats for this? Editing money for example.

Seem to be unable to use the online save editor.
 

Z_z_Z

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Sorry, the second part of the comment was meant more in the general sense for the thread rather than a direct reply to you.

That said, the release dates of these games do matter... and the sales that matter the most are the ones on dlsite and Fanza (where applicable for the latter). This is because by the time any of these games are localized, the development of the next game(s) is already in the works if not already complete. I doubt that the Steam Sales have much of an impact on Acerola's design decisions beyond the fact that it encourages them to keep localizing games as a worthwhile investment... and that's assuming that the sales number are indeed good there between Steam, GoG and Kagura's site... I have no idea. Hard to check. I also don't know how much of a cut Kagura takes from the sales, and thus how profitable localization actually is for Acerola.

The fact that Kagura hasn't said anything about any of the other games that came after this one is... concerning... Though to be fair, I don't expect to ever see anything about the Vulvadia game because that was a complete clusterfuck...

Getting back to THIS game and the cluster-fuck that is the AI patch... I have a question.

Did anyone confirm if the patch is even MEANT to work with the Append? Did anyone try the patch on the base-game version that does NOT have the Append installed?

Because I'm starting to suspect that the AI patch is not meant to work with the Append, and that having the Append installed breaks shit in general. I'm obviously hoping that I'm wrong about this one... but if I'm right... Wooo boy that's even more concerning.
All good fam.

Yeah idk how Vulvadia ended up being as bad as it was. Felt like you had try to screw up to make it that bad.

Also u called it about it not being meant to use with the append loll
 
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Iexist

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All good fam.

Yeah idk how Vulvadia ended up being as bad as it was. Felt like you had try to screw up to make it that bad.

Also u called it about it not being meant to use with the append loll
Vulvadia was a co-op with ONEONE1, and the latter circle didn't really pull their weight on it, while still insisting for the whole thing to be done in Unity, an engine that they were barely experienced with themselves, and with which Acerola had no experience with at all. While Acerola didn't outright state that ONEONE1 didn't cooperate as much as they should have, the lack of commentary about Vulvadia on ONEONE1's ci-en and the fact that ONEONE1 isn't also selling the game or at least promoting it says a lot on its own.

Basically, it was a clusterfuck and I blame ONEONE1 for it.

As for the current situation...

It was inevitable really. With how Wolf RPG works, you can't have a single patch that handles both the base game and the Base Game + Append, due to how files will get overwritten. So I really should have realized it sooner. Hopefully they amend the description of the Patch before more people get pissed off about it.

Me, well, I'll likely still wait for the Kagura release, probably. Though I suppose I might play the AI TL with the Append and the Kagura release too. Monica was the first of the NTR games that I genuinely liked a lot when I played it with just an UI translation from ULMF.
 
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