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I am sooooo stealing that!I think I need to repeat this one here:
"It's not a valid complaint unless it comes from the Complaigne region of France. Otherwise, it's just a sparkly whine."
I am sooooo stealing that!I think I need to repeat this one here:
"It's not a valid complaint unless it comes from the Complaigne region of France. Otherwise, it's just a sparkly whine."
I may not be French, but I am a "grand-père," so I can get away with bad "Abuelo Jokes."Are you even french !? If so you'll know that is a very very bad joke.
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Pent Panda is a very underrated developer. He consistently finishes his games and they all are unique in some way or another, despite the obvious repetition when it comes to character models. I also found that the way he tells stories can be very touching, even in his less serious stories. Glad that he tries something serious now.Recommending Short Sad Stories.
It's a slice of life VN with an overarching narrative despite the name, with each chapter being from the POV of a different character.
There are three chapters so far, two here on F95 and one stillYou must be registered to see the links.
It starts with Alice, a lonely girl with a vivid dream world, and her cynical musings. We get glimpses into her sadness as she narrates her life to the player. Her misery is part justified, part self-indulgent. Chapter two moves on to her brother Zach. He's a stark contrast to Alice, and is battling his own demons. Finally, chapter 3 (the latest so far) revolves around Martha and... I won't say anything about her lest I spoil things
It's generally a bleak story, despite its sweet moments. The game allows you to lean into the darkness and make bad choices, without a game over screen. The story moves on, and you get to live with the consequences. It's done impressively well.
I recommend giving it a shot. OP has been updated![]()
I got around to playing this one recently and really liked it. It definitely is well-written, particularly during the big moments, and I appreciate the author's willingness to tackle tough topics and portray complex emotions.Let me recommend the Strangers on Paper
The 100% story-based natural product, imho. Very well written, read it in one breath.
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That was a wonderful recommendation, and I have yet again found myself agreeing with most of your thoughts.I got around to playing [Strangers on Paper] recently and really liked it.
I like Amy. She is charming and is easy to sympathize with. But she's also too perfect. Effortlessly beautiful, popular, girl-next-door cheerleader desired by everyone, and yet so innocent, naive and "pure". She needs something to balance all that, though I'm not sure what.Daniel: What, you're saying you're not a figment of my imagination?
Amy: Oh, you're taking credit for my existence now?
Amy: You're way more arrogant than I thought.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that last line says a lot about how she sees Daniel. She thinks he thinks that she's some mysterious curio to be idolized and lusted after. She's not entirely wrong.Becca: Okay, stop.
Daniel: Like, pull over?
Becca: Just stop.
Becca: Stop talking to me like that.
Daniel: Like... what?
Becca: The way you always fucking have.
Becca: Like you actually know me.
Becca: And like I'm not a real person at the same time.
There are references to her fiancé being a douchebag, but that could very well be Daniel assuming things for his benefit.I also haven't seen any particular reason for Amy to cheat so far beyond her feeling stuck and bored. That certainly can be reason enough for some people, though, and the genuine connection Amy and Daniel seem to form on her route might soon give her another.
I personally don't see the moral hazard. I believe a relationship is solely the responsibility of the people in it. If someone being nice and affectionate to your fiancé for a few hours is enough for her to question the engagement, then your relationship was never on solid ground anyway. Genuine connection is rare and life is far too short to worry about whether someone is "taken" or notPursuing either LI ends up feeling a bit like cheating.
I'm conflicted about this. On one hand, I actually like that you have to make mutually exclusive choices with destructive effects. I don't like stories where the hero saves everyone. But I also agree with you that Amy and Becca being damsels in distress needing to be rescued doesn't feel right. It's a tough thing to balance.Not pursuing a LI seems to have a really negative effect on her.
Agreed. I'd much rather have her be this cheerleader he idolized but never talked to. It would allow him to meet the real woman behind the fantasy, and perhaps learn a lesson or two about himself in the process.Amy didn't need to be a forgotten childhood sweetheart.
I agree with your assessments of both Becca and Amy. I wonder if Becca is inevitably going to become the Cece of the game because her issues are so far more serious than anyone else's and the stakes in her storyline are seemingly higher. I can imagine people looking at Amy and thinking, "Oh, come on...just break up with your boyfriend already and live the life you want." It's definitely not that easy, but it's probably not as hard as Amy thinks either.I like Amy. She is charming and is easy to sympathize with. But she's also too perfect. Effortlessly beautiful, popular, girl-next-door cheerleader desired by everyone, and yet so innocent, naive and "pure". She needs something to balance all that, though I'm not sure what.
I tend to discount those for now because Daniel's initial take on Amy is so completely wrong. Despite being a writer, our MC might not have been the keenest observer of human nature in high school. It certainly will be easier for the MC-Amy romance if the fiance does turn out to be a jerk, though, and the relationship obviously had problems before she ever stepped into that bar.There are references to her fiancé being a douchebag, but that could very well be Daniel assuming things for his benefit.
I tend to approach it from the standpoint that I'd rather not be a part of someone else's pain if I don't have to be even if the relationship is clearly on its last legs and that pain is likely inevitable. If you are in a relationship that is falling apart, the kindest thing you can do is tell the other person it's over. Consider it a final act of love and devotion after which you'll be free to connect to someone better for you. Genuine connection definitely is rare and something to be treasured, but I'd aim for friendship rather than romance if a woman is already in a relationship.I personally don't see the moral hazard. I believe a relationship is solely the responsibility of the people in it. If someone being nice and affectionate to your fiancé for a few hours is enough for her to question the engagement, then your relationship was never on solid ground anyway. Genuine connection is rare and life is far too short to worry about whether someone is "taken" or not![]()
Agreed. It doesn't sound like her life is bad by any real metric, it's perhaps just... boring. You can feel the ennui emanating from her.On the other hand, when I've felt lost in my life it usually hasn't been all that dramatic. I think the Amy storyline captures the feelings of uncertainty and detachment I felt in those moments quite well. It's less "I hate everything about my life" and more "I don't know if this is really the life I want and if this is really who I am." I can relate to Amy even without being a perfect cheerleader myself.
That would be such a cheap cop-out, I hope that's not the case. I'd much rather have the fiancé be a genuinely good guy who is just too bland and passionless. At least then she'd have a real dilemma about leaving him.It certainly will be easier for the MC-Amy romance if the fiance does turn out to be a jerk, though, and the relationship obviously had problems before she ever stepped into that bar.
That's all good and well for what Amy should do (and I do agree), but I disagree with the friendship vs relationship bit, at least for the specific case here. Or perhaps you are just a better person than I amI tend to approach it from the standpoint that I'd rather not be a part of someone else's pain if I don't have to be even if the relationship is clearly on its last legs and that pain is likely inevitable. If you are in a relationship that is falling apart, the kindest thing you can do is tell the other person it's over. Consider it a final act of love and devotion after which you'll be free to connect to someone better for you. Genuine connection definitely is rare and something to be treasured, but I'd aim for friendship rather than romance if a woman is already in a relationship.
Indeed. There is an entire world of drama to be explored with infidelity. Shame the audience is so allergic to itWhile cheating tends to make fictional characters less sympathetic in my eyes, I am always interested in their reasons for straying. It's a shame NTR tends to be so formulaic and the characters stock because the dramatic and psychological potential is off the charts.
Yeah, but isn't that both kinda the same thing?. Is there a difference for you if the MC and the girl become a thing whether because the MC "rescues"" her from a jerk or from a passionless bore?. The latter would also entail that the MC is the opposite and.... yeah. Both sounds equally cringe to me. I haven't played that game yet, so maybe the MC is like that cool written, interesting, "epitome of passion" type of guy who comes to the rescueThat would be such a cheap cop-out, I hope that's not the case. I'd much rather have the fiancé be a genuinely good guy who is just too bland and passionless. At least then she'd have a real dilemma about leaving him.
Not really. Have you seenYeah, but isn't that both kinda the same thing?
I'd love it too, but that's definitely wishful thinkingOr, well, you know, maybe he's just the MC of an AVN..... That's the problem for me in AVN's when it comes to these kind of stories. There would have to be a route in which you can actually fail at "conquering" the girl in order to make me care about it....
Strongly recommending The Artist.I swear, if this woman's questions were knives flying through the air at me, I would die before I ever saw one coming.
Michael is completely spellbound by Ava. A woman he has had barely a few hours of interaction with can somehow see and reach deep into his soul so effortlessly, which leaves him confused and scared. The mismatched power dynamic gives her tremendous control over him. Control that he's more than willing to surrender.Ava: You see a beautiful woman before you. One who is here for you, one who wants to spend time with you... and all you have is words?
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Ava: I'm going to leave. You will call me in exactly three minutes... and you will say the last words you have for me tonight, and then I will decide whether I will come back or not.
This would make the game genuinely great.That would be such a cheap cop-out, I hope that's not the case. I'd much rather have the fiancé be a genuinely good guy who is just too bland and passionless. At least then she'd have a real dilemma about leaving him.
My gripe with Leap Of Faith has always been that it's essentially "Male Gaze™ The Game", but desperately tried to be "deep" by occasionally abusing heavy themes. To me it seems like Strangers On Paper is grounded and focused enough to not fall into that trap.I wonder if Becca is inevitably going to become the Cece of the game because her issues are so far more serious than anyone else's and the stakes in her storyline are seemingly higher.
I did indeed, a long time ago. Solid movie, it's supposed to be a "when real love strikes" type of story, but the connection of the 2 women, as you've already mentioned, was way too rushed.., could've been more. So in this case the IMDB rating is actually somewhat accurate. But going back to AVN's, Love, Honor, Betray also comes to mind because Lacey, as of now, also doesn't have much of a reason to cheat on her husband.Not really. Have you seenYou must be registered to see the links?
A..a..are you saying that we never get to see that, like ever? =) Well, i'd do that in "my" AVN. A dating game, winning and failing included...... What a shocking conceptI'd love it too, but that's definitely wishful thinking![]()
Equally strongly agree. This is a great game!Strongly recommending The Artist.
I'm honestly rather tired of the "depressed man wants a girlfriend" MC. But I'll forgive it, because it is so good storytelling.The MC, Michael, is a depressed and successful lawyer. He has very little will to do anything, and what little that comes out of his mouth is dripping with cynicism.
I was already impressed halfway through the chapter, but by the end I knew I wanted to support this developer. I'd love to see if anyone else feels as strongly about it as I do![]()