The problem for me is that these guides assume that one has achieved creampie stage with Lisa. I have not achieved that and can't seem to figure out how to get there. Breast massage and cunnilingus now no longer add to tension.
I understand that I still have a few events for Kate, progressing with the naked in the room scenes, so I'll continue with that. Right now, I am sharing a double bed with Lisa, but I haven't seen any of the late night options while sleeping mentioned.
Does the Jill/Lil threesome have a chance of Lisa entering before Lisa Creampie or does that happen after?
Therapy can't begin until AFTER Lisa creampie, right?
well not sure about Lisa/Mom, tho she was my 1st i worked on, can check the saves to see where it happens, if i catch right one. but in general, keep her sleep in your room, make sure opinion is maxed, lots of things in this game relay on opinion = 100. might have some to do with aunt and their competition, there is for sure progress with anal and creampie with aunt so might be related to mom too, but i didnt had issue with it, just keep on progress, fucking her till option for more presents itself.
one thing did notice in game, if you try to push for creampie you only delay for when it happens. example x store owner.
what worked smoothly for me with bank manager i left for the end (potential to paths in future), have enabled debug (PDebug = True) only real hint system i game, at least you know what you got left to do. and do stuff you havent yet.
have keept an eye on progress log, and did the one thing that still brought allure and until new option unlocked. in few h was done with her content that way.
as family foursome goes, for me it happened after pie, but as i said, she and lil were 1st i was working on and it just happened at some point. keep on switching once you get to threesomes with both jil and lil, have to switch between them not sure at least 3x or more and then mom shows up, it works in the morning when shes willing, wed 8am.
you can replay this one as much as you want, and for whole progress all you need is just one variable
OldSis.TalkThemes["JointFitness"].Date-= 1
its only 2 days in week where is chance for that, at start, later on if mom in shared room she can call em in.
just thought of something, how did you progress with family therapy, there was 1st place that mom was willing to take creampie before i was able to do at home.
did found this save, last condom i see in use with her, during day sex
and dont forget about photoshoots, you fill her up there too as you progress. whether trigger for pies is therapy, photoshoot or aunts contest. do all. got variables for all to replay as much as you want till your done with events.