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Guys, at least let's wait a bit, we already know what could happen. We don't lose anything anyways.pls don't, at least wait a bit
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i kinda get the sentiment. Like, having to wait 3 weeks on my tier sucks donkey balls. That´s an extremely long wait and feels almost like a punishment
3-4 days between tiers? No problem with that. almost a month? Dunno if that´s worth the sub if it´s getting released on here before that.
3-4 days between tiers? No problem with that. almost a month? Dunno if that´s worth the sub if it´s getting released on here before that.
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is this a new game? a side story? the name of a new chapter in stray incubus?
- Nov 27, 2021
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Just the name of the next season/chapter of Stray Incubus.
Not sure if it'll be a new file or or not though.
- Sep 12, 2021
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Try this (hard = better chance of working but can break game, soft = less chance of working but should not break game)
Indeed. The game(s) are great but the tiers are unreasonable. Which is a shame, more generous tiers = more subscribers. I recommend the Dev to go look at for example Summertime Sagas tier systemi kinda get the sentiment. Like, having to wait 3 weeks on my tier sucks donkey balls. That´s an extremely long wait and feels almost like a punishment
3-4 days between tiers? No problem with that. almost a month? Dunno if that´s worth the sub if it´s getting released on here before that.
I have to agree with the others saying the tier prices are much too high. I’m someone who’s gone to bat for this game many times on Reddit, especially when it was in danger of being cancelled, and I’d put it in my top 5 AVNs.
However, $35+ for access to a release that will take at MOST 3-4 hours to play through is not reasonable. That amount would buy you several indie games on Steam or a AAA game on sale. I like this medium and I’m happy to support creators but let’s be honest, you’re competing with a ton of other entertainment and a lot of it is free. And by the time the price gets down to the $5-10 tier that feels more fair, I may as well wait a week for it to become free.
As a contrast, Cosy Cafe, another of my top 5, is one where I will always pay for day 1 access because the price is very fair ($5) and I want to support the dev rather than downloading from here. I’m sure many other fans would do the same.
Ultimately the game will end up free to the public so it’s not a massive deal if the early access prices are exorbitant. Maybe the dev gets enough money from rich impatient folks paying 50 bucks that it makes up for the many lower spenders he’s turning away. I just wanted to share why I, as someone who would theoretically be OK spending money on this release, simply cannot justify it at the current tier price scheme.
However, $35+ for access to a release that will take at MOST 3-4 hours to play through is not reasonable. That amount would buy you several indie games on Steam or a AAA game on sale. I like this medium and I’m happy to support creators but let’s be honest, you’re competing with a ton of other entertainment and a lot of it is free. And by the time the price gets down to the $5-10 tier that feels more fair, I may as well wait a week for it to become free.
As a contrast, Cosy Cafe, another of my top 5, is one where I will always pay for day 1 access because the price is very fair ($5) and I want to support the dev rather than downloading from here. I’m sure many other fans would do the same.
Ultimately the game will end up free to the public so it’s not a massive deal if the early access prices are exorbitant. Maybe the dev gets enough money from rich impatient folks paying 50 bucks that it makes up for the many lower spenders he’s turning away. I just wanted to share why I, as someone who would theoretically be OK spending money on this release, simply cannot justify it at the current tier price scheme.
- Nov 28, 2022
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Maybe he should add exclusive scenes to top tiers? Those scenes only could be seen by no paying users when the mage is finished. IDK.
- Mar 5, 2022
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Imo adding more scenes etc for top tiers doesn't work its just more work for the dev to try to add value to something people are paying for right now hoping a few outliers will pay the extra that either can't afford it or won't give that much.
It's just more work for flynn in the chance it might net more people which is a pretty low success rate imo espically if the rewards for that tier go public and are not exclusive to it.
- Feb 4, 2019
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go the the gallery, press 10 times on the cat, and you've got a temporary unlock for all of it.
no need to change the code.
imo this is the way to go. Either a leaker is paying huge money, or whales are. Everyone gets all the content eventually within a relatively reasonable amount of time. Sure, I could make quips about ideal timelines (I think 2 weeks from early high tier release to public release are ideal, but that's just imo), but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter.
- Jan 29, 2019
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We are in something really funny in AVN industry, at least in occident. People want good quality matertial, with fast release pace, but only few want to pay. And this bring us to many good AVN being abandonned. No editor mean no job for the dev (creators), only way is to use means like patreon with highly priced tier to hope to get a descent amount of money, and due to Patreon content rules, creator need sometime to adapt the game. And so far it's what work best for the devs.
At the end of the day, if you pay or not, if the game release every 3 months the waiting time is the same. Only difference is that you can play it before others. And Flynn974 need the cash to keep developing his game, or it might end as an unfinished game.
True
false, people want steady release, not a flip-flop between 1 month to a year or two from the same dev
Conjecture, and a false one, considering how many people are funding these patreon milking machines, some with over 10k usd monthly.
The WEG industry was killed in its infancy by patreon, and it will never recover, because the monthly drip for little or no work does not give any incentive for devs to bother. There are less finished WEGs in a decade than the japs do in a year.
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It's something really funny in AVN industry. People want to earn money in game development, but they illegally use licensed renders, so they can't put their creations on Steam or GoG and then they cry about piracy
I'm perfectly fine with paying 20 bucks or more per season, but not if I have to download it constantly via bloody mega or other file sharing service.
Artemis is on Steam, Swordbearer is on Steam, 0 End is on Steam, Love of Magic and Being a Dick are on Steam, and few dozens other. I think BaD even ended up in Steam Top100 sellers at some point, but sure, let's blame the community and not the legal status of the game which is officially - nonprofit fanfiction.
I will add to that - I would happily pay ONE FUCKING TIME for a game. Then maybe periodically again for 'expansion packs' or DLC. But every fucking chapter, when each chapter is maybe 10 mins long? Yeah get fucked. Not happening.
Think about it, you pay what maybe $30-$80 for a non-adult video game, and if it's good you will easily play it 50-100 hours. If it's amazing, hundreds of hours over the years, easily. But what, because it has boobies in it suddenly it makes sense to pay hundreds of dollars for a game that in all likelihood you will not spend as many hours playing, and the game will likely never even get finished? (News flash: the majority of these games never get finished.)
It is way easier and cheaper to develop an adult game compared to a 'regular' video game but somehow the industry has got all these Patreon folks convinced they should pay much higher prices for them. It's absurd.
The MIDDLE tiers for this are in the $20 range. They go up to $80 A MONTH. If you pay $20/mo via Patreon, that's $240 fucking dollars a year. Most of these games take years to finish, if they ever finish. So you could easily spend a grand or more on it. Even if you did the much cheaper $6/mo option, that is still $72 a year - quickly adds up to HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS if you just support the game for a few years of it's lifespan. That is simply extreme greed, pure and simple, there is no clever way to argue around it.
And yes, the irony is the devs are using pirated shit to make the games in the first place, and they make no attempt to even try to get licensing from the creators of those products. So cry me a river that their games get pirated in turn.
Think about it, you pay what maybe $30-$80 for a non-adult video game, and if it's good you will easily play it 50-100 hours. If it's amazing, hundreds of hours over the years, easily. But what, because it has boobies in it suddenly it makes sense to pay hundreds of dollars for a game that in all likelihood you will not spend as many hours playing, and the game will likely never even get finished? (News flash: the majority of these games never get finished.)
It is way easier and cheaper to develop an adult game compared to a 'regular' video game but somehow the industry has got all these Patreon folks convinced they should pay much higher prices for them. It's absurd.
The MIDDLE tiers for this are in the $20 range. They go up to $80 A MONTH. If you pay $20/mo via Patreon, that's $240 fucking dollars a year. Most of these games take years to finish, if they ever finish. So you could easily spend a grand or more on it. Even if you did the much cheaper $6/mo option, that is still $72 a year - quickly adds up to HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS if you just support the game for a few years of it's lifespan. That is simply extreme greed, pure and simple, there is no clever way to argue around it.
And yes, the irony is the devs are using pirated shit to make the games in the first place, and they make no attempt to even try to get licensing from the creators of those products. So cry me a river that their games get pirated in turn.
- Aug 11, 2023
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You're not paying for the individual game but supporting the developer so they can continue to make games indefinitely.
- Jun 8, 2021
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I would understand such anger if this game didnt have a public release, but it does have a public release. So I am sure most people who are supporting on patreon arent doing it to buy the game over and over again (I find the idea of that quite funny), they are (like me) doing it to support the dev, the things on patreon are just a bonus