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hoshimota

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I would understand such anger if this game didnt have a public release, but it does have a public release. So I am sure most people who are supporting on patreon arent doing it to buy the game over and over again (I find the idea of that quite funny), they are (like me) doing it to support the dev, the things on patreon are just a bonus
I just find this to be such an absurd, weak argument. They are indeed paying for a product. Do you feel the need to send 20 bucks a month to your local firefighters, EMTs, teachers, volunteers, the people who work with special needs children for a pittance of a salary, or the people who volunteer at soup kitchens and homeless shelters in your local neighborhood? All of whom are arguably way more deserving and certainly have more of a positive impact on society... No, right? But for some bizarre reason you think it's a big virtue signal that you donate to starving... porn devs
 
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Erm these tier pricing are absurd... I'm willing to insta pay some where around $10 but damn A$35 is crazyyy. Dev should reconsider patreon prices.
You're not the first nor will you be the last moaning about the tiers, and obviously it is something that Flynn should (or has been) looking into. But patreon isn't the only place to get this - I mean hell, currently stray incubus is included in a bundle on itch.io with a bunch of other games for a choose your own price (currently the average is about $6 or so). Now they may not all be winners, but there are some genuine good games.

 
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You're not the first nor will you be the last moaning about the tiers, and obviously it is something that Flynn should (or has been) looking into. But patreon isn't the only place to get this - I mean hell, currently stray incubus is included in a bundle on itch.io with a bunch of other games for a choose your own price (currently the average is about $6 or so). Now they may not all be winners, but there are some genuine good games.

Thanks, but is it the latest update? the last update on stray incubus was 14 days ago on that site
 
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shitass1001

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They are indeed paying for a product
The "product" I am paying for
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Do you feel the need to send 20 bucks a month to your local firefighters, EMTs, teachers, volunteers, the people who work with special needs children for a pittance of a salary, or the people who volunteer at soup kitchens and homeless shelters in your local neighborhood
I dont feel the need, but I probably would be a patron for my local fire fighters and others if there was a way to do it that was easy. I find this argument a bit odd, like yes obviously those people deserve money, but supporting a porn dev and supporting a homeless shelter arent mutually exclusive, I can and do do both. I dont benefit from supporting the homeless shelter (well, not directly), and I dont really benefit from supporting flynn.

Once again I feel like your clear disdain for this to be weird, the game is free, if you dont want to pay a lot on patreon, which is completely reasonable, those tiers do go really high, then just dont support him on patreon, the update will come.
 

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The MIDDLE tiers for this are in the $20 range. They go up to $80 A MONTH. If you pay $20/mo via Patreon, that's $240 fucking dollars a year. Most of these games take years to finish, if they ever finish. So you could easily spend a grand or more on it. Even if you did the much cheaper $6/mo option, that is still $72 a year - quickly adds up to HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS if you just support the game for a few years of it's lifespan. That is simply extreme greed, pure and simple, there is no clever way to argue around it.
I'm going to side with hoshimota on this one. My biggest problem with Patreon is that you can't make a single payment, which I would do a lot, rather you're forced in to a subscription model just like Amazon Prime. Then you forget about your subs, keep paying when you'd rather not and Patreon can skim their percentage.

High priced tiers and begging for donations does nothing but help them and, like hoshimota says, you are paying towards something that, more than likely, won't ever be finished. Think Star Citizen which raised two million dollars in crowd funded cash, sold in-game ships that don't exist for $15,000 for a game that hasn't been released in 14 years of development.

If you want to pre-tip then do your thing. Hopeful people are good sources of cash. Personally I'd prefer to pay my door dash driver AFTER he delivers my food rather than before but the system isn't set up that way. Deliberately.

No shade, just some thoughts. Peace.
 
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The "product" I am paying for
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I dont feel the need, but I probably would be a patron for my local fire fighters and others if there was a way to do it that was easy. I find this argument a bit odd, like yes obviously those people deserve money, but supporting a porn dev and supporting a homeless shelter arent mutually exclusive, I can and do do both. I dont benefit from supporting the homeless shelter (well, not directly), and I dont really benefit from supporting flynn.

Once again I feel like your clear disdain for this to be weird, the game is free, if you dont want to pay a lot on patreon, which is completely reasonable, those tiers do go really high, then just dont support him on patreon, the update will come.
Stop spewing so many facts you small orange tabby you!
 
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Once again I feel like your clear disdain for this to be weird, the game is free, if you dont want to pay a lot on patreon, which is completely reasonable, those tiers do go really high, then just dont support him on patreon, the update will come.
His disdain for Parteon based funding is completely reasonable, considering that currently most of AVN seems to be focused on Patreon and Patreon only. Crowdfunding used to be a way to kickstart the development, not to finance it endlessly, and even then there were very clear conditions that project had to meet, with specific deadlines.
Now it's basically "keep it coming and maybe I will post some update this year". It's bloody OnlyFans business model.
 

harem.king

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Now it's basically "keep it coming and maybe I will post some update this year". It's bloody OnlyFans business model.
... i am now wondering if someone could make an onlyfans account for a porn game they are making. instead of streaming themselves, they stream their drawing and also hand out download links when doing so.
 

BakaHu

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Looks like people learned their lesson after the last leak

New version is available for $23 right now and it hasn't been leaked

Entry price will drop in 4 days

White Belt doesn't get any form of early access
On the availability chart the lowest early access tier is Purple Belt 21 days after God and Keres

Everyone after that gets access on August 1 unless it gets leaked again

A person on a budget doesn't stay subbed
They only temporarily sub when there's a new update and it's available for a tier they are willing to afford
 
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hoshimota

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Or they simply don't care enough anymore. Honestly after last release I'm also starting to lose interest. View attachment 3833877
The last release was disappointing to me. I feel like quality in the very beginning of the game was kind of rough, then the game really found its stride and for a while it was excellent. The last chapter was not great IMHO and several aspects felt kind of half-assed.

Also as I have said before, the dialogue they have the LIs saying during lewd scenes is increasingly becoming really annoying to me and is ruining immersion. I can't say it enough, I don't want to hear the innocent seeming LIs screaming shit like AHHH IM YOUR CUM SLUT. I realize some disagree on that.
 

BakaHu

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The last release was disappointing to me. I feel like quality in the very beginning of the game was kind of rough, then the game really found its stride and for a while it was excellent. The last chapter was not great IMHO and several aspects felt kind of half-assed.

Also as I have said before, the dialogue they have the LIs saying during lewd scenes is increasingly becoming really annoying to me and is ruining immersion. I can't say it enough, I don't want to hear the innocent seeming LIs screaming shit like AHHH IM YOUR CUM SLUT. I realize some disagree on that.
Innocence is lost when the innocent one gives into lewdness

One of the only problems I have with the game is the mc's head with those markings but I got used to it
 

Harem4life

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I don't want to hear the innocent seeming LIs screaming shit like AHHH IM YOUR CUM SLUT.
Innocent? LMAO. Their dildo collection can put even pornstars to shame. The only thing some of them never had is a real dick but they are pro when it comes to riding one.

Innocence is lost when the innocent one gives into lewdness
There needs to be a progress. Anyways most of them ain't even innocent to begin with.

I think they are actually acting as they should.
 
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