Lachesis580

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Apr 11, 2019
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This is sad as hell.. I hope dev finds the time & desire to continue this in the future.
I am not the biggest fan if it comes to Fantasy/Mythology stuff in AVN's but this was one of few which i really loved.

Girl designs where also so good will miss them. Misty was also unexpected a fine good looking character.
 
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Phase_01

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Nov 27, 2021
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Indeed, Flynn's probably the best dev out there who can actually make a proper action filled AVN, with straight up badass sequences and adrenaline filled moments. + proper good ear orgasm scenes.
It was honestly really cool to see how much they drastically improved over updates, from the beginning to recent updates.

Sure there were pacing/abruptness issues and some controversy over the direction of the sex scenes but those don't take away from the fact that the scenes, story, animations were all pretty much objectively good quality for an HS based game.

I do hope one day they make a return, as improbable as it may be.
 

artofwar

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Mar 17, 2020
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Welp, this sucks, I really liked this one and the guy had improved massively from the beginning. Another one bites the dust I guess.

There's a lot of whining in here about piracy but personally when I went to support the guy I remember finding his pricing tiers to be a bit ridiculous. It's $40 USD per month for day1 access to new releases.

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I doubt I'm the only one that was turned off by the whole 2+ weeks wait time for paying customers (a couple of lower tiers exist, with the ones that actually get access to the game starting at $6 for a 3 week wait time, and two higher tiers exist at $40 and $80 both instant release) - and I'm willing to bet that most of the supporters still pirated the game anyway. I would have most likely grabbed it from here too, but I wasn't going to support someone who was doing that to people who wanted to pay him for his efforts.

IMO the guy had the wrong idea when it came to this site, he used it right initially to gain popularity - then decided to fight it. Instead of accepting that piracy is something that will happen, and continuing to use this site as the incredible resource it is, he tried to ensure that it wouldn't get leaked by asking for large amounts of money and sticking a large wait time in between tiers. So who loses when that happens? Because it isn't the pirates - IMO it's the paying customers. If you're asking someone to pay for something they can otherwise get for free, then one of the absolute worst things you can do is make it less convenient to get it from you.

This is like Netflix, knowing that there is a site they can't shut down that has their entire library available at full quality, for free, deciding to up the price of a subscription and then asking people to wait up to 3 weeks after things have dropped. What on earth do you think would happen in that scenario? Everyone just immediately upgrades to the highest cost plan so that they can get their media on day 1? or is it possible that many who would otherwise subscribe to them might just say "fuck it" and use the free resource?
 

psycho-pooch

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Jul 16, 2023
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Welp, this sucks, I really liked this one and the guy had improved massively from the beginning. Another one bites the dust I guess.

There's a lot of whining in here about piracy but personally when I went to support the guy I remember finding his pricing tiers to be a bit ridiculous. It's $40 USD per month for day1 access to new releases.

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I doubt I'm the only one that was turned off by the whole 2+ weeks wait time for paying customers (a couple of lower tiers exist, with the ones that actually get access to the game starting at $6 for a 3 week wait time, and two higher tiers exist at $40 and $80 both instant release) - and I'm willing to bet that most of the supporters still pirated the game anyway. I would have most likely grabbed it from here too, but I wasn't going to support someone who was doing that to people who wanted to pay him for his efforts.

IMO the guy had the wrong idea when it came to this site, he used it right initially to gain popularity - then decided to fight it. Instead of accepting that piracy is something that will happen, and continuing to use this site as the incredible resource it is, he tried to ensure that it wouldn't get leaked by asking for large amounts of money and sticking a large wait time in between tiers. So who loses when that happens? Because it isn't the pirates - IMO it's the paying customers. If you're asking someone to pay for something they can otherwise get for free, then one of the absolute worst things you can do is make it less convenient to get it from you.

This is like Netflix, knowing that there is a site they can't shut down that has their entire library available at full quality, for free, deciding to up the price of a subscription and then asking people to wait up to 3 weeks after things have dropped. What on earth do you think would happen in that scenario? Everyone just immediately upgrades to the highest cost plan so that they can get their media on day 1? or is it possible that many who would otherwise subscribe to them might just say "fuck it" and use the free resource?
Hard Agree, as they say, piracy is a service issue.
For me personally, If the first tier was a couple of bucks a month, sure, I'd be happy to support. But I'm not paying the price of a full game on steam per month for an ongoing project with no clear end date; and the end date is very important to me because I need to know where/how to set my expectations.

Regardless, it is sad to see him go. I hope he finds success in other areas of life.
 

Cogiworth

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Jan 14, 2023
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The pay scales were a bit off, I am also someone who is willing to pay a few dollars a month until a major update and I will usually up my subscription for that month. Kind of like a patron would in ye' olden days. Waiting weeks for a basic service you've been paying for is definitely going to turn people away.

I think F95 itself is more an advertising tool for indie devs. The amount of games I simply had no idea existed or just from recommendations are staggering. Which in turn has allowed me patronize those devs, otherwise I never would have paid for their games as many can't be sold on steam or other sales platforms since they use existing programs for their animations. Thinking you can limit piracy by being more heavy handed almost always backfires and pushes potential patrons/buyers away.
 

kuine

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Apr 21, 2020
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that was a really great game.

I don't know where he originally came from and I haven't read the whole thing.
What I didn't quite understand: I think the game was completely free for a year (?) - that is, the first 5 or 6 chapters if I'm not mistaken? Then he moved to Germany and at the end of last year complained that he wasn't earning enough because the game was leaked here again.
Now he's back in his home country and has given up on the game. Did I understand that correctly?
I think it's a shame: at first I thought he didn't need the money and in the end it turned out that the game didn't earn him enough to live on.
 

packor

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at first I thought he didn't need the money and in the end it turned out that the game didn't earn him enough to live on.
Anyone who doesn't need other people's money to make a game is f-in rich. I don't believe any rich person would dabble in making these types of renpy games. There's much more interesting hobbies to pursue.
 

Magic Potato

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Dec 19, 2020
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Yes, even though the game has been abandoned. It's still a great must play game. Just trust and you'll thank me later. Take your time and enjoy it. I wish i could play this for the first time again and not my 107th time
When it comes to games like this one, I really wish I could just wipe my memory and enjoy the game for the first time...
That said: I totally agree on this one. If you didn't played it yet, it's one of the Must Have on this site.
 

He11oThere

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Mar 4, 2021
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no no no wtf? How come? I can't belive this. How this awesome game can be abandoned? I was waiting for so long...
Hope dev will come back, thx for all work you did and wish you luck
 

tmu500

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One thing is definite, the dev's first season had more content and a lot enjoyable compare to some popular games in this site.
 
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Steinchen

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that was a really great game.

I don't know where he originally came from and I haven't read the whole thing.
What I didn't quite understand: I think the game was completely free for a year (?) - that is, the first 5 or 6 chapters if I'm not mistaken? Then he moved to Germany and at the end of last year complained that he wasn't earning enough because the game was leaked here again.
Now he's back in his home country and has given up on the game. Did I understand that correctly?
I think it's a shame: at first I thought he didn't need the money and in the end it turned out that the game didn't earn him enough to live on.
well if he moved to germany than he would have had enough income on pantreon IF he would not had this TIERS that he had.

he had 260 supporters when he last updated the game and when he had tiers up to ONLY 10$ with this 260 supporters he would have enough to come by i´d say.

Example:
1247€ at 5$ tiers with 260 supporters,or 1847€ at 130 supporters 10$ and 130 suporters at 5€.
even with the pantreon fee and taxes there should be enough to not go bankrupt in germany.
you will not live in luxury,but it would be enough to live and have a roof over the top.
and that is only the supporter count he had and not that he could have if his pricing polity would been different.

i remember he said that he needed to support his family,and i don´t know where they are living,but a alone person can live with that.

but that all is of course a risk,because this market of making a living is highly unstable to depent alone on it of making a living.
the higher the fanbase the better you can afford to handle supporter fluctuations.
 
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