VN Ren'Py Stray Incubus [S2 Ch.3b] [IP Studios]

[Versace217]

how about "you two been bonded"? it means you and her get under skin to each other in a good way.

That would've made sense if they had grown closer together first but there were no scenes at all prior to that. For every LI, there have always been some sort of a touching scene where they either share a secret with eachother or go through an event together that brings them closer emotionally.

Nothing of that nature happened here, so seeing that sort of emotional outburst from the MC regarding an almost complete stranger just because of some "bond" placed upon them is completely unjustified.

 

[maxthruster]

That would've made sense if they had grown closer together first but there were no scenes at all prior to that. For every LI, there have always been some sort of a touching scene where they either share a secret with eachother or go through an event together that brings them closer emotionally.

Nothing of that nature happened here, so seeing that sort of emotional outburst from the MC regarding an almost complete stranger just because of some "bond" placed upon them is completely unjustified.

And hell, of his sudden protectiveness towards her and her sudden horniness towards him were both driven by the bond, I could understand that. It's a bit of a cheap story mechanic, but it's porn logic, so whatever.

Trouble is, we never see that being established! The only thing we ever see that is directly implied to be caused by the bond is Zycris thinking Illya is beautiful and her blushing, when they hold hands during the bonding ritual. That's it. If the game wanted to imply that the bond spell created a much deeper emotional attachment between them, despite being strangers, then it needed to take some time to show that. Have the group explore the city a little bit, or settle into the castle and get to know each other, or spend time planning Illya's royal visits to the surrounding villages. And during these scenes, establish the two of them getting closer, thinking about each other, maybe finishing each other's sentences or some other little cues to demonstrate that the bond spell is bringing them together. That way, when he erupts in anger over her being injured(even if it's only in a combat tournament) it makes sense!

Or, if you want to minimize the new renders and dialogues you have to add, simply show the mark on his hand glowing when it happens. That would feel a lot cheaper and lazier, but at least establish that it was because of the bond spell.

 

[Versace217]

And hell, of his sudden protectiveness towards her and her sudden horniness towards him were both driven by the bond, I could understand that. It's a bit of a cheap story mechanic, but it's porn logic, so whatever.

Trouble is, we never see that being established! The only thing we ever see that is directly implied to be caused by the bond is Zycris thinking Illya is beautiful and her blushing, when they hold hands during the bonding ritual. That's it. If the game wanted to imply that the bond spell created a much deeper emotional attachment between them, despite being strangers, then it needed to take some time to show that. Have the group explore the city a little bit, or settle into the castle and get to know each other, or spend time planning Illya's royal visits to the surrounding villages. And during these scenes, establish the two of them getting closer, thinking about each other, maybe finishing each other's sentences or some other little cues to demonstrate that the bond spell is bringing them together. That way, when he erupts in anger over her being injured(even if it's only in a combat tournament) it makes sense!

Or, if you want to minimize the new renders and dialogues you have to add, simply show the mark on his hand glowing when it happens. That would feel a lot cheaper and lazier, but at least establish that it was because of the bond spell.

Exactly! We could've also had some scenes between Illya and Zycris like Illya suddenly tripping and Zycris catching her and they would both hold eachother close then Centoria would go "Ahem!" and both would get flustered or other similar scenes like that.

The intimacy could've evolved like that as well with Zycris accidentally seeing the princess change clothes and even intimacy scenes involving Centoria and Illya where it's revealed that they both used to fool around together which would've expanded into the bathroom scene.

Like you and others have said, there is a lack of pacing and supplementary scenes that enhance the flavor of the story. Without setting prior backstory leading up to certain events, the story just feels rushed and bland at best.

I just hope the dev takes all these things into consideration when remaking CH15.

 

[maxthruster]

Exactly! We could've also had some scenes between Illya and Zycris like Illya suddenly tripping and Zycris catching her and they would both hold eachother close then Centoria would go "Ahem!" and both would get flustered or other similar scenes like that.

The intimacy could've evolved like that as well with Zycris accidentally seeing the princess change clothes and even intimacy scenes involving Centoria and Illya where it's revealed that they both used to fool around together which would've expanded into the bathroom scene.

Like you and others have said, there is a lack of pacing and supplementary scenes that enhance the flavor of the story. Without setting prior backstory leading up to certain events, the story just feels rushed and bland at best.

I just hope the dev takes all these things into consideration when remaking CH15.

Honestly, I wonder if it would be worth reaching out to the devs to see if they want some assistance with the rewrite?

I know that probably sounds a bit insulting, but it's not an assumption of incompetence; rather, as someone else had pointed out, they previously were reluctant to rework the chapter because they were worried it would make the rest of the game take longer. If that's the case, having someone to storyboard and rewrite this update more fully would give the actual writer on the team more ability to focus on future updates. I wish I could make similar offers on the subject of rendering, for the same reason, but unfortunately I know fuck all about making scenes in HS2.

 

[balboa2151]

Well, I'm very happy that this game is saved, it's been so long I should've started a new game but I'm being lazy, is it me or do the women look prettier? I'm using URM and I'm extremely attracted to Helena but I assume she isn't a character that the MC can have a relationship with? I can't find any stats for her using URM but I can find them for the others? It's a shame because she is stunning, thank you new devs for picking up this game, it's very much appreciated

 

[maxthruster]

Well, I'm very happy that this game is saved, it's been so long I should've started a new game but I'm being lazy, is it me or do the women look prettier? I'm using URM and I'm extremely attracted to Helena but I assume she isn't a character that the MC can have a relationship with? I can't find any stats for her using URM but I can find them for the others? It's a shame because she is stunning, thank you new devs for picking up this game, it's very much appreciated

Helena is considered a side character rather than a primary love interest. However, there have been several recent suggestions that she will get dedicated lewd scenes, notably even featuring in a lewd from the recent update, bathing with the player and some other characters, playing a spicy card game, stripping nude and making out with the player before letting him massage her tits.

 

[itsntt]

A half-truth is a whole lie

 

[ramvivat]

That would've made sense if they had grown closer together first but there were no scenes at all prior to that. For every LI, there have always been some sort of a touching scene where they either share a secret with eachother or go through an event together that brings them closer emotionally.

Nothing of that nature happened here, so seeing that sort of emotional outburst from the MC regarding an almost complete stranger just because of some "bond" placed upon them is completely unjustified.

mmmmmmagic! =)
name what you need and you get in at once, yes!
they magically bonded like they grow near each other without growing, they bonded like they fucked without fucking... ooops! they fucked already hehe =)
did you seen letsplay of "the alters" where clones have memories of alternative way he lived? magic can this. what is magic? technology or "i-know-how".

IRL you get vitamine C in pills without eating lemon, isn't it? and this is also magic... or technology hehe...
IRL you learn math by repeating 2+2=4 - and after that you know what 2+2=4 but you not invented this by yourself, right? and this is also magic or technology know-how-to.

magical bonding work same way if you think good about it.

Elven magic is the magic of illusions, that is, the magic of influencing your brain directly. In other words, elves are telepaths. And a good telepath can convince you by planting the desired thoughts in your head – a piece of cake. QVOD ERAD DEMONSTRANDVM.

 

[maxthruster]

mmmmmmagic! =)
name what you need and you get in at once, yes!
they magically bonded like they grow near each other without growing, they bonded like they fucked without fucking... ooops! they fucked already hehe =)
did you seen letsplay of "the alters" where clones have memories of alternative way he lived? magic can this. what is magic? technology or "i-know-how".

IRL you get vitamine C in pills without eating lemon, isn't it? and this is also magic... or technology hehe...
IRL you learn math by repeating 2+2=4 - and after that you know what 2+2=4 but you not invented this by yourself, right? and this is also magic or technology know-how-to.

magical bonding work same way if you think good about it.

Elven magic is the magic of illusions, that is, the magic of influencing your brain directly. In other words, elves are telepaths. And a good telepath can convince you by planting the desired thoughts in your head – a piece of cake. QVOD ERAD DEMONSTRANDVM.

This is... making a lot of assumptions about how magic works in the game, and even if it's correct it would be lazy as hell if it was true.

 

[Armo99]

there are report of lots of hotfixes for a vulnerability in Unity affecting many games
https://f95zone.to/threads/mornings...1-1-0b-droid-productions.166485/post-18278416

 

[johnnyboy125]

Well, lets see how he´s planning to salvage this trainwreck. with a first release this disastrous and him acting like a petulant child when confronted with constructive criticism, i´m not gonna count on anything worth my time or money.

Oh, and don´t forget that he´s still working on his own game. So good luck with upholding the quality if they already fucked it up once

EDIT: Speaking about his other game... Judging by the comments over there, the future of SI seems pretty grim. Yeeeah... No thx

Get a life

 

[banada352]

From: Discord Patreon tier channel

illya remake concept - left is Centoria, right is Illya


(Personally I think we should give them more time, not everyone is perfect at first. At least they listen and make adjustments)

 

[Wolfeszorn]

magically altered to look exactly the same!!!!! (yes, even the freckles) I mean, cmon. The concept of identical Twins ain´t that hard to understand xD
I´m just gonna sit back and enjoy the "fan fiction". Won´t call it anything else for now. Just replacing the model might be a step in the right direction, but without adding a shitton of additional scenes in even less time it´s sadly going to stay the mess it currently is.

The real challenge is going to be the point when they first have to write their own stuff. (So the first release after the rework iirc) And if it´s going to be anything like the last release, it´s gonna end pretty bad.

Get a life

Naw, how nice that you care about me, AltAccount Andy Definitely going to take something like that from somebody like you into consideration.

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[maxthruster]

From: Discord Patreon tier channel

illya remake concept - left is Centoria, right is Illya
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(Personally I think we should give them more time, not everyone is perfect at first. At least they listen and make adjustments)

Much better! While the lack of freckles is sad(I really like freckles on a girl, they're cute!) it's a visual distinction to help easily tell them apart, and importantly it's a distinction with an explainable cause: freckles are caused by exposure to sunlight. It's entirely believable that Centoria, a ninja in training who leads an active lifestyle, would spend more time outdoors and in direct sunlight than the princess does.

My one real critique is that Illya's eyelashes look a bit too dark/thick, making it hard to see her eyes - hopefully that's just an issue with this specific render, and is less of a problem from different angles or with different expressions. Already we're moving in a positive direction.

 

[Audi4Rings]

From: Discord Patreon tier channel

illya remake concept - left is Centoria, right is Illya
View attachment 5313320

(Personally I think we should give them more time, not everyone is perfect at first. At least they listen and make adjustments)

why remake them at all. sharpen up the features a bit and that's all you have to do.

 

[Ronaldweasley 979]

Why are they even making two models just use the same model of Centoria for llya, they are identical dammit

 

[Cogiworth]

I don't mind small differences between them. Like the lack of freckles can be explained but the differences should be how they dress themselves, style their hair, and act. Perhaps have a very small scar somewhere on Centoria from being injured as a ninja, maybe even have one of them impersonate the other and you have to guess which one it is. You could save scum it or backtrack if you get it wrong but have some kind of hint in the scenes before like the theoretical scar or less pronounced freckles. If it's dark though seeing freckles is just not gonna happen for most people.

 

[banada352]

Much better! While the lack of freckles is sad(I really like freckles on a girl, they're cute!) it's a visual distinction to help easily tell them apart, and importantly it's a distinction with an explainable cause: freckles are caused by exposure to sunlight. It's entirely believable that Centoria, a ninja in training who leads an active lifestyle, would spend more time outdoors and in direct sunlight than the princess does.

My one real critique is that Illya's eyelashes look a bit too dark/thick, making it hard to see her eyes - hopefully that's just an issue with this specific render, and is less of a problem from different angles or with different expressions. Already we're moving in a positive direction.

You're absolutely right — Itsnt mentioned that, in his logic, since one is a princess and the other a ninja, there should naturally be some slight differences between them (sorry, I can't provide a screenshot due to anonymity reasons).
That said, according to the story, the two are supposed to be completely identical. It’s unclear whether a final decision has been made, but for now, it's still considered part of the concept phase.

 

[M00nSh1ne_X]

Is it me or does the last scene not even have any animations? I hear sounds, but image is still?

 

[AnonW123]

Is it me or does the last scene not even have any animations? I hear sounds, but image is still?

It's not just you. It's not animated.